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Who makes the best beats? I'm not talking best tunes, I'm talking skills when programming the drums in. Both make some quality stuff and really work those drums sounds. Who do you think is best? BAM! vs AGGGH! |
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I just know witboas so I cant vote |
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I would like to have your mail if you dont want to post it here just email me: nacmat@terra.es |
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snares |
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Aphex Twin |
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i'd say aphex |
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prolly my pen0s cause it helps me get around town |
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id say aphex as well... the little I've heard of senetian snares I would sooner compare him to third eye foundation than aphex... |
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Aphex without a doubt...there is a huge difference to their styles of "drill". Aphex is crafted drum patterns, Snares is fast retriggers from limited sample breaks. |
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Autechre!!! :) ... no if I had to choose between snares & aphex, certainly aphex! |
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all ive heard from snares is Defluxion and his remix of Skelechairs from that mu compilation....and from what ive heard i say aphex is better than him at everything. |
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i feel hot steam in my neck so i guess i better start elaborating; imo snares is best since he breaks out of 4/4 schedules while still managing to keep things coherent, the beats are loud and hard yes, but still comprehendable and detailed. i'm not an expert by any means so i don't know much of the technical side, still i feel that snares is a skilled beat-programmer when looking overall i prefer afx for obvious reasons (melody, diversity originality) |
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Snares doesn't program beats...so there you have it. |
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what about most WITBOAS tracks |
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He takes a short ass break samples and retriggers them at different points, and at different speeds etc. I'm not knocking him for it, but it is different to say Squarepusher or Aphex who sound as though they construct the breaks they use...which is why there is often more musical variation in the latters tracks than in Snares. I'm not knocking Snares but it is a different way of working. |
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he does more than only cutting up breakbeats, listen to the samples of his june2004 album on planet-mu for instance |
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no, but he is more sample based...as I said I'm not knocking him. od_step seems to be from the Aphex/Squarepusher school. Dirqual from the Snares school. I still fucking love the stuff that both of them do. |
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Maybe I am just typing shit...I don't know...I don't care...I'm sleepy now...need to go and get some rest...see you soon :D |
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While not having used any music programs aside from Fruity Loops for like two days, from listening to each artist - and I've heard everything released - I'd agree with Lee. |
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nacmat: I'll e-mail you when I get home mate :) ecnaddniarb: I didn't know he just triggered samples. I thought he took samples and reconstructed them piece by piece. Having read that though, it gave my an idea of something to do in Reason for triggering beats. It works as well :) I can't choose who I like best as a beatmaster. I love Aphex's work and really enjoy it but it's the same for Snares. But it's for different reasons that their beats are so good. Oh man! From a technical point of view though Aphex is the winner. |
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afx wins! |
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Too tough to vote on. If it was a straight Aphex vs Snares then my vote would be Aphex of course. |
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aphex for sure. but aphex vs []pusher. thats a different story. imo, squarepusher is the best drum programer around. |
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i could agree with that :) |
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btw, apperantly it runs in the familly (the jenkinsons) |
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TJ is easily the best drum programmer. You hear Snares you get blown away but then you check TJ again and you know who God is. Lol. |
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spoke to vsnares today. He programs his beats. Says he used to use an old Amiga 500 with a two colour monitor. I asked if his eyes go goggly from looking at the screen all day puttin dots in cubase and he says he is used to it. So there you have it! :D |
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I prefer older Aphex... but nowadays Venetian Snares is the shit. Chocolate Wheelchair is the only drill album worthy of a listen in 2003 for me. |
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i'm working on an all vsnares mix it's pretty tight so far |
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Snares does get some bonus points for doing cool time signatures. |
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I've gotta say, I reckon kid 606 isn't far off snares in percussive skills. |
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What Kid 606 have you heard? |
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. . I VOTE FOR APHEX!!!!!!! |
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APHEX APEHX APHEX! the man is a genius. like someone said here he "crafts" his beats. and then they flow like fine wine. venetian snares shit is like budweiser at best. |
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WHAT? oh kay then. i'd have to disagree on that. but both aphex and snares are amazing when it comes to breaks - in the category for originality and perfection i'd say aphex - but for consistency and awesomeness id go for snares. |
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duh aphex |
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everyone knows boards of canada have the most amazing beats |
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He is wasting a lot of time then, because they just sound like sample retriggers. I wouldn't argue though that he may make his source breaks... Also about Snares using strange time signatures...I don't think he even uses time signatures...there is no point working to time signatures in drill, you just play it by ear. |
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the Twin, wins... again! |
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the only reason "the twin wins" is because half of the people here posted aphex because they have only listened to maybe 1 or 2 of snares' albums. its bugs me quite a bit - but whatever - i respect nacmat a lot for deciding not to vote when he isnt at a position to do so. |
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I was refering to Down Whit the Scene, some of the tracks like Juvenile Hall Rollcall and catstep my kitten (I know that's a Hvratski remix) both have great percussion. |
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kid 606 and hrvatski are in a completely differant sound spectrum then snares is - although the kid has some excellent drum sequencing - his stuff isnt nearly as consistently good as aaron's is, nor does it even compare structurally to aaron's works. in their own categories you could compare them as equal in their fields - but i would never directly compare them to one another. (buts thats just my opinion) |
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bucephalous bouncing ball |
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What bugs me more is the fact that some people on the board think others are posting from a position of ignorance because they don't agree with your view on the subject. |
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That track was a good idea but unbelievably basic. No real beat programming in there :P |
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who are these Aphex Twin guys? |
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thats not what i meant - but you would act the same way as i did if i came into this thread and said "vsnares because ive only heard saw2" - i gave an explanation for my reasoning as to why i like both artists - maybe if everyone gave reasoning like you and i did this thread would look differant? |
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Fair point...sorry the comment I made wasn't really meant as a direct attack on you...it is something I have noticed on the board a fair bit recently in quite a few topics. People not respecting other peoples opinions. |
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You've got mail :) |
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I've definitely heard more Aphex albums than snares. You've got a good point there. |
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