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offline bob from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 17:43 [#00927873]
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how hard do people find it getting a gig playing this kind
of music? i dont really try, i think i would be wasting my
time to a certain extent.

has anyone got any success stories?

how did you go down, etc,etc...???


 

offline spoonz from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2003-10-31 17:51 [#00927877]
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i have had success in my basement. i am too young to dj
clubs, but i've always wanted to do a little set in a cafe
or something.

i am dj trumpet case and this set has some house, and also some
recognizable (more chilled) idm at the end.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-10-31 17:56 [#00927881]
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There isn't a single electronica dj for miles around here,
only house and hip hop dj's.

So thats why I went out and bought a bunch of vinyl. Now I'm
the only electronica dj i know. Someone had to do it.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-08 10:18 [#01419101]
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I reckon their should be more bars playing decent
electronica, ever been to Amsterdam?, they have great bars
and coffee shops but they all seem to play shit music which
is a total waste of decent "green" IMO.

I did hear some Brothamstates in a Shoreditch pub recently
and I nearly fainted with shock but generally this is not
the case.

Maybe somebody should start an agency for electronica djs,
I'd sign up that's for sure.



 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-12-08 10:20 [#01419105]
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i played my local sunday-night-electronica-in-a-pub gig
twice and about 5 people asked me "wtf was that track"?

2 of the highlights of my musical life



 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-12-08 10:24 [#01419111]
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I used to do chill out rooms back in the day, *feeling old*
but the money doesn't really cover the price of gas/petrol.
I would always find it funny when there was a room full of
people close to ODing and you put some Minestry on, usually
Stigmata.


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-08 10:25 [#01419113]
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Sorry for the double post, forgot to add my own experiences
playing electronica, I have been playing this sort of thing
for around ten years for hardly any reward (financially that
is)and have always found it a struggle getting work because
of the blinkered musical policy of most venues.
don't give up though because the impact you can have on
people when they here this "new" style of music is immense.

Nowadays I tend to do mixes in my bedroom and tout them
around to whoever might be interested, that way at least the
music get's heard, which is the most important thing.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2004-12-08 10:27 [#01419118]
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i plan to go then as per usual my apathy takes over. having
said that, missed the rephlex gig in nottingham this year,
the one night i HAD to be somewhere else :(


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-12-08 14:30 [#01419586]
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here in Holland (Groningen) are some locations where they
actually play electronica and the crowd really loves it

I played a few times but I find it very hard to dj with
vinyl only because if you play IDM, beatmatching isn´t
always possible...

I think that is the main reason why there aren´t much
electronica djs


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-08 16:29 [#01419775]
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i wouldn't say it's hard to play at all..ofcourse depends on
what kind of electronica it is, but generally it's too
abstract to even make a difference whether you beatmatch or
not..


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-12-08 16:33 [#01419781]
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yeah beatmatching all depends... I really strive to do some
killer beatmatching... I can do stuff like mix Vordhosbn
with Cockver10, and edIT with Prefuse73, or even Richard
Devine with Shadow Huntaz. Other times it doesn't matter,
especially if you have some tracks with a beatless outtro
and mix it into a song with an ambient beginning...


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-12-08 16:58 [#01419812]
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"I played a few times but I find it very hard to dj with
vinyl only because if you play IDM, beatmatching isn´t
always possible... "

yes it is


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-12-08 23:34 [#01420187]
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"yes it is"

it is hard to dj?
or
is possible to beatmatch?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-12-08 23:37 [#01420188]
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possible to beatmatch


 

offline Motha Fucka from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-12-08 23:55 [#01420197]
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I play in my bedroom.

P.S.:Have a program called "VirtualDj",d/l it!

:-*


 

offline zkreso from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2004-12-09 02:22 [#01420228]
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Alright, mixing was invented to keep people dancing all the
time AFAIK.
What I don't get is, why do you need to mix together songs
that you're not supposed to dance to? What's the point?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-09 02:23 [#01420229]
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why aren't you supposed to dance to it??


 

offline KEYFUMBLER from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-12-09 03:57 [#01420256]
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Master beatmatchers in electronica DJing are
Aphex, Luke Vibert, Warps DJ Aura and DJ Ned. Also, buddy
peace and zillas warpmix is tops too.

Personally I mix electronica the way squarepusher does on
his 1st breezeblock DJ set......non-beat-matched and quirky
as fook. I like throwing people off-kilter with disjointed
WFT mixing... i try and keep a flow or a thematic sense so
its not total chaos.

Soemtimes a set can be too cleverly beatmatched i think.
I love RDJ's style though.......... totally twisted.


 

offline Dannn_ from United Kingdom on 2004-12-09 05:45 [#01420300]
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I think the key with Aphex is the way the style progresses;
he makes sort of daring transitions but you don't even
notice them happen, that way there is a huge variation in
the set


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-09 06:00 [#01420305]
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totally agree wit that! always puts perfect stuff together
and it's all so varied, from hip hop to electro to techno,
ambient, jungle, drum n bass, noise, gabber...even pop songs
he plays fit in perfectly..


 

offline soundguy from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-09 06:56 [#01420319]
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whenever I've seen Aphex Dj he has been terrible, unless
hearing Lionel Richies "All Night Long" fed through a Kaos
pad is your thing.

On the subject of beatmatching it's not only possible with
electronica but essential, nothing kills the flow more than
mismatched grooves and tempos, but of course the nature of
the music means it can be hard to do.
Consideration must also be given to the key and space of
your tracks as well, a perfectly matched beat will still
sound rubbish if the music doesn't go well together.

My advice is invest in a set of kill switches and learn your
tracks like the back of your hand, oh and a short smooth mix
is better than a long messy mix.



 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-09 07:16 [#01420342]
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Mixing is great fun.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2004-12-09 09:03 [#01420491]
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I have been developing my skills with electronica stuff. It
is easy just like everything else you just need to really
know the tunes, that is the only thing that is important.
Also practice makes perfect...

Old things but they hold true.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-09 09:05 [#01420494]
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if the audience isn't to familiar with electronic they
usually can't even tell when one song stops and other begins
- it all sounds pretty much to them. same goes for just
about any genre im sure.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2004-12-09 09:05 [#01420495]
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there are words missing there, but you get the idea :)


 

offline Aesthetics from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-12-09 09:48 [#01420562]
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of course it is, I don´t say it is not possible

but there are enough songs that have a complex beat/rhythm
or not even a beat at all


 


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