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bob
from Nottingham (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-31 17:43 [#00927873]
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how hard do people find it getting a gig playing this kind of music? i dont really try, i think i would be wasting my time to a certain extent.
has anyone got any success stories?
how did you go down, etc,etc...???
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spoonz
from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2003-10-31 17:51 [#00927877]
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i have had success in my basement. i am too young to dj clubs, but i've always wanted to do a little set in a cafe or something.
i am dj trumpet case and this set has some house, and also some recognizable (more chilled) idm at the end.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-10-31 17:56 [#00927881]
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There isn't a single electronica dj for miles around here, only house and hip hop dj's.
So thats why I went out and bought a bunch of vinyl. Now I'm the only electronica dj i know. Someone had to do it.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-08 10:18 [#01419101]
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I reckon their should be more bars playing decent electronica, ever been to Amsterdam?, they have great bars and coffee shops but they all seem to play shit music which is a total waste of decent "green" IMO.
I did hear some Brothamstates in a Shoreditch pub recently and I nearly fainted with shock but generally this is not the case.
Maybe somebody should start an agency for electronica djs, I'd sign up that's for sure.
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-12-08 10:20 [#01419105]
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i played my local sunday-night-electronica-in-a-pub gig twice and about 5 people asked me "wtf was that track"?
2 of the highlights of my musical life
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2004-12-08 10:24 [#01419111]
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I used to do chill out rooms back in the day, *feeling old* but the money doesn't really cover the price of gas/petrol. I would always find it funny when there was a room full of people close to ODing and you put some Minestry on, usually Stigmata.
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-08 10:25 [#01419113]
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Sorry for the double post, forgot to add my own experiences playing electronica, I have been playing this sort of thing for around ten years for hardly any reward (financially that is)and have always found it a struggle getting work because of the blinkered musical policy of most venues.
don't give up though because the impact you can have on people when they here this "new" style of music is immense.
Nowadays I tend to do mixes in my bedroom and tout them around to whoever might be interested, that way at least the music get's heard, which is the most important thing.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-12-08 10:27 [#01419118]
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i plan to go then as per usual my apathy takes over. having said that, missed the rephlex gig in nottingham this year, the one night i HAD to be somewhere else :(
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-12-08 14:30 [#01419586]
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here in Holland (Groningen) are some locations where they actually play electronica and the crowd really loves it
I played a few times but I find it very hard to dj with vinyl only because if you play IDM, beatmatching isn´t always possible...
I think that is the main reason why there aren´t much electronica djs
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-08 16:29 [#01419775]
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i wouldn't say it's hard to play at all..ofcourse depends on what kind of electronica it is, but generally it's too abstract to even make a difference whether you beatmatch or not..
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2004-12-08 16:33 [#01419781]
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yeah beatmatching all depends... I really strive to do some killer beatmatching... I can do stuff like mix Vordhosbn with Cockver10, and edIT with Prefuse73, or even Richard Devine with Shadow Huntaz. Other times it doesn't matter, especially if you have some tracks with a beatless outtro and mix it into a song with an ambient beginning...
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-12-08 16:58 [#01419812]
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"I played a few times but I find it very hard to dj with vinyl only because if you play IDM, beatmatching isn´t always possible... "
yes it is
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-12-08 23:34 [#01420187]
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"yes it is"
it is hard to dj? or is possible to beatmatch?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-12-08 23:37 [#01420188]
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possible to beatmatch
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Motha Fucka
from Selvaggina (Brazil) on 2004-12-08 23:55 [#01420197]
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I play in my bedroom.
P.S.:Have a program called "VirtualDj",d/l it!
:-*
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zkreso
from Kr.sand (Norway) on 2004-12-09 02:22 [#01420228]
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Alright, mixing was invented to keep people dancing all the time AFAIK.
What I don't get is, why do you need to mix together songs that you're not supposed to dance to? What's the point?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-09 02:23 [#01420229]
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why aren't you supposed to dance to it??
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KEYFUMBLER
from DUBLIN (Ireland) on 2004-12-09 03:57 [#01420256]
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Master beatmatchers in electronica DJing are Aphex, Luke Vibert, Warps DJ Aura and DJ Ned. Also, buddy peace and zillas warpmix is tops too.
Personally I mix electronica the way squarepusher does on his 1st breezeblock DJ set......non-beat-matched and quirky as fook. I like throwing people off-kilter with disjointed WFT mixing... i try and keep a flow or a thematic sense so its not total chaos.
Soemtimes a set can be too cleverly beatmatched i think. I love RDJ's style though.......... totally twisted.
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2004-12-09 05:45 [#01420300]
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I think the key with Aphex is the way the style progresses; he makes sort of daring transitions but you don't even notice them happen, that way there is a huge variation in the set
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-09 06:00 [#01420305]
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totally agree wit that! always puts perfect stuff together and it's all so varied, from hip hop to electro to techno, ambient, jungle, drum n bass, noise, gabber...even pop songs he plays fit in perfectly..
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soundguy
from London (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-09 06:56 [#01420319]
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whenever I've seen Aphex Dj he has been terrible, unless hearing Lionel Richies "All Night Long" fed through a Kaos pad is your thing.
On the subject of beatmatching it's not only possible with electronica but essential, nothing kills the flow more than mismatched grooves and tempos, but of course the nature of the music means it can be hard to do.
Consideration must also be given to the key and space of your tracks as well, a perfectly matched beat will still sound rubbish if the music doesn't go well together.
My advice is invest in a set of kill switches and learn your tracks like the back of your hand, oh and a short smooth mix is better than a long messy mix.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-12-09 07:16 [#01420342]
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Mixing is great fun.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2004-12-09 09:03 [#01420491]
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I have been developing my skills with electronica stuff. It is easy just like everything else you just need to really know the tunes, that is the only thing that is important. Also practice makes perfect...
Old things but they hold true.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-09 09:05 [#01420494]
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if the audience isn't to familiar with electronic they usually can't even tell when one song stops and other begins - it all sounds pretty much to them. same goes for just about any genre im sure.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-09 09:05 [#01420495]
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there are words missing there, but you get the idea :)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-12-09 09:48 [#01420562]
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of course it is, I don´t say it is not possible
but there are enough songs that have a complex beat/rhythm or not even a beat at all
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