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offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-10-30 06:09 [#00925270]
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I've noticed in turntabilism, there seems to be quite big
business involved in signature editions of hardware endorsed
by certain tablists or whole scratch crews... this can range
from the manufacturer giving the artist money/gear to use
their name to the artist actively collaborating with the
company's R&D department.

Now, only about 1 in 5 hip hop fans I know actually has any
decks & mixer, let alone the higher end sort of kit that is
signature edition. Compare this to electronica where past
polls have shown fans who don't make tracks are in
the minority... Surely there is some sort of market in the
synths/programs area for artist endorsed or better still,
designed with artist's creative input, gear? I know some IDM
artists do communicate with gear/software manufacturers to
suggest features for future editions, just wondering why
there aren't any. I know they do the odd bit of patch work
(Richard Devine worked on absynth 2, AFX did some drum
machine presets...) but that's not in the same league as
say, an Ae drum machine or a Boards of Canada synth.

Considering what a mad completist your average IDM fan is,
even those who don't make music would by Luke Vibert
endorsed Reason, just for the sake of having all his stuff.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-30 06:13 [#00925273]
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It is a different area though...in order for a synth to be
endorsed by ae, it would have to replicate the sounds of ae
otherwise it wouldn't sell...then it would mak ae's sound
too common. A lot of IDM is developing little tricks that
differentiate you from the crowd...if you make it easy to
replicate it fucks you over :P


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-10-30 06:17 [#00925275]
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noo that would be horrible.. itll be like carl cocks dj
studio 20cz.3 blabla... itll commercialize.. i also think
the market is too small to make much profit... esp with
softsynths, everyone will pirate em


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-10-30 06:18 [#00925277]
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imagine ae releasing the randomize-program they used to make
gants graf and all

well be flooded in custom made random noises :D


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-30 06:19 [#00925278]
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i heard aphex wont release loads of his pioneering stuff for
fear of being copied.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-30 06:19 [#00925279]
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Gantz Graf isn't random though...it is loop based...really
simple loops as well...just the way I like it LIKE IT I DO!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-30 06:20 [#00925280]
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More likely because it is shit average junk that HE WOULD
GET LAUGHED AT OVER>>>LIKE A MAN WITH A SMALL PENIS>


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-10-30 06:20 [#00925281]
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What I meant was a like an "improved" version of an existing
bit of kit that Autechre use, such as the MC-202 but with
some slight changes in interface (knob positioning),
appearence (polished silver with cyan lettering say) and
maybe an extra feature that makes it that much easier to get
a sound like theirs (built in ring modulator and extra dial
to control it). Other examples, 808 state edition roland
tr-808 or a Boards of Canada SH-101.

I know those are all old bits of equipment I've mentioned
(well, they could re-issue them... ;) but you see the idea.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-30 06:22 [#00925284]
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I think that would be a funky idea...some hardware
endorsed...but most of the people who make IDM (for want of
a better term) use software for everything as custom
hardware is expensive as it is without endorsement fees on
top :P


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-30 06:23 [#00925285]
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Oh man! I think I'd cum at that


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-10-30 06:24 [#00925286]
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With regard to the market being too small... there are lots
of acts in more traditional music that use the same synths
etc. prodigy and chemical brothers both have a lot of
respect for AFX, Everyone rips off BoC... LFO
produced for bjork & depeche mode etc. these would be the
people buying the stuff too- not just amateur "hobby"
musicians.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-10-30 06:25 [#00925288]
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I would sooooo buy a Turquoise BoC SH-101 reissue if they
added good midi support, even if it was big bucks :)


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-30 06:26 [#00925289]
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lol, so write to them and ask :P


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-10-30 06:37 [#00925295]
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the only equipment, hardware wise that i centrally use is my
alesis sr-16, yamaha psr-6, yamaha pss-470 and casio
ctk-531.

that's more than enough sound for me - for now.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-30 08:23 [#00925440]
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BOC's sound is one of the best I must say. I'm not a huge
fan but maxima really raised my eyebrows. I should pick up
that other one (Alphagetti or whatever ?)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-10-30 08:28 [#00925445]
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I usually use a regular Bic pen to do my signature!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-10-30 08:57 [#00925474]
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Oh yeah, I meant to mention that there is signature series
moog theremins, but that is just a name on it- no different
functionality and the "signature" is only Bob Moog's...


 


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