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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-20 14:09 [#00910716]
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Now, lets discuss Venetian Snares - Winter In The Belly Of A Snake [ZIQ066]. Details can be found here
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-10-20 14:12 [#00910721]
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Great release. Not perfect as some tracks are a bit too weird for my liking (e.g. Dad with its distorted voice). Strong points are In Quod, Sink Snow Angel, Stairs Song and Cashew.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-20 14:12 [#00910722]
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cool vsnares is added to the discog :)
i love this release of his, quite different from the others imo,
so many great tracks; in quod, january, tattoo, stairs song, suffocate, sink snow angel, dad etc...
looks like that june2004 album is gonna be quite the same style, can't wait for that,
discuss:
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-20 14:12 [#00910724]
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It really bad mix of decent and terrible tracks. I don't know if Snares fancies himself as a comedian, but the track with the about the girl with the machine gun was boring and made him sound like a joke. Far too many of the tracks are exercises in drum programming that get boring after the first 20 seconds. Lacks any emotion or variation for most of the album. I like about 4 of the tracks all together.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-20 14:17 [#00910729]
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I pretty much agree with ya, not a favourite of mine this
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-10-20 14:19 [#00910731]
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I have not listened to album very much but ecnadniarb's opinion is the same as mine near enough.
I do however, LOVE Suffocate, but even that begins to drag after a while.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-20 15:57 [#00910884]
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Only the same artist but different release....
It says in the discog that you can get Nymphomatriach on Vinyl. I didn't see this anywhere. Where could I get it?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-10-20 16:01 [#00910895]
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"Far too many of the tracks are exercises in drum programming that get boring after the first 20 seconds. Lacks any emotion or variation for most of the album."
I agree completely. It is almost as if we are watching this artist develop right before our eyes on some sort of a reality IDM show. :D
Anyways i prefer Find Candace if i had to choose
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telica
from london/york on 2003-10-20 16:19 [#00910957]
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i thought nymphomatriarch was a bit of a let down. i was chatting to snares on slsk and he gave me pervs a while before the album was released. based on that track, i thought the album was going to be pretty decent. i was disappointed.
anyone that titles a track 'hymen tramp choir' has my respect tho'. eugh.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-20 16:21 [#00910959]
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It's not what I was hoping for to be honest but there's a couple of tracks I'd love to drop in a set. I cant remember their names though. The names are good :)
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telica
from london/york on 2003-10-20 16:25 [#00910965]
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can't believe he split up with rachel kozac so soon. you'd think if you were going to make such an...erm...intimate album you wouldn't be breaking up anytime soon. i guess you can never know what's going to happen tho'.
bet it was fun to make.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-10-20 16:25 [#00910969]
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(sorry for the lack of venetian snares info, but we've just started on adding his stuff, loads of other stuff added lately to the discog tho!)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-10-20 16:45 [#00911004]
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this album is beautiful, more subtle, more precise, calculated etc. ... everything happens exactly when it has to... it gives you a lot more headspace, and the textures are probably the best Snares has offered to date (although i haven't heard the new one yet)... i thought the Danzig cover was cool, and it's always nice when covers are original... as opposed to being mediocre rip-offs...
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-10-20 16:52 [#00911017]
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i actually just downloaded that today, its pretty cool, altho like said above, not much emotion. so far im liking january and in quod
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-20 16:57 [#00911033]
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Different strokes for different folks.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-20 17:02 [#00911046]
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Bitty. That's how I'd describe it.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-10-21 03:20 [#00911656]
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I don't like how "deconstructed" most of the tracks sound, vsnares just doesn't do it for me unless it has some ultra tight hardcore beats going on or brilliant melodies, this release IMO has some of his lamest attempts at melodies, and the blipiness of the drums detracts from how they sound, I could rate almost any other release of his higher than this
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-10-21 04:31 [#00911766]
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got a link to some Danzig pics then?
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flea
from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-10-21 04:42 [#00911784]
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I like it a lot, these deconstructed glitched up VSNARES releases are my kinda VSNARES, Songs About My Cats is still tops with me. His drill stuff on the other hand, I find predictable and dull.
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vio
on 2003-10-21 05:35 [#00911863]
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That was a cover of a Misfits song, you stump.
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morge
from United Kingdom on 2003-10-21 08:32 [#00912079]
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this is his best album by a long chalk.. its like classical muisc with the melodies. and the drums are fucking wicked much more original than his d'n'b stuff (which incidently kicks mutherfuckin ass). every track on this album is essential as far as i can see
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nene
from United States on 2003-10-21 11:22 [#00912262]
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wow I think I have the opposite musical taste in some respects to some of you people. this album is hella emotional and the melodies are very touching. I dig the semi-detached, claustrophobic, depressed mood and the mind-numbing rhythmic structure. my favorite snares album.
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nacmat
on 2004-01-29 12:38 [#01053579]
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this album is beautiful I am amazed how so many people dislike it here, I thought this mb was very pro snares
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-29 12:47 [#01053588]
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It's not a case of disliking it, but in relation to other stuff it isn't that amazing. I really really don't mind snares and I do listen to his stuff quite often, it is just that there is often more waste than quality on his albums...If you took his music output for a year you could select an album worth of excellent tracks, which for me at least, would be better than 3 inconsistent albums.
Equally I know a lot of it is down to taste.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-29 12:51 [#01053596]
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i agree, but perhaps this is better for the fans...this way everyone can make a compilation out of the tunes they like. im sure vsnares would be more appreciated by many people then, but this way is better for his fans.so im ok with it.
actually i wouldn't mind if afx would be doing the same thing.
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nacmat
on 2004-01-29 12:55 [#01053614]
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I dont see weak tracks in doll doll doll, find candance or making orange things
nor in witboas
i guess you ve got a wider knowledge of music anyway so...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-29 13:00 [#01053637]
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hmm, making orange things is the only one i can listen from start to finish...well sometimes doll doll doll too. i like his stuff, but im not crazy about it :)
i would like to see him live again tho...
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-29 13:04 [#01053646]
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It depends on whether you expect your fans to download or buy your album...I don't buy new snares, I buy new autechre and I would probably still buy new Aphex though.
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nacmat
on 2004-01-29 13:28 [#01053692]
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its incredible though how many he has released in just 3 years.
its not my opinion, but for those who think he has weak and inconsistent releases, they must admit that at least 3 or 4 of his releases are top material... and thats far better than average (3 or 4 great albums in 3 years)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-29 13:31 [#01053700]
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Not really...you throw enough shit and some of it will stick. If you have spent £200+ on 3 to 4 excellent albums worth of stuff you aren't going to be too happy.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-01-29 13:34 [#01053705]
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what has this to do with money? art is priceless.
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nacmat
on 2004-01-29 13:34 [#01053706]
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anyway its not my case I am loving all of it
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2004-01-29 13:35 [#01053709]
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i don't regret buying any of my snares releases, in fact i listen to'em far more often than to my squarepusher and afx stuff..
none of his stuff bores me :)
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ecnadniarb
on 2004-01-29 13:35 [#01053710]
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Not when you have to pay for it. Hippy ideals have no place in the modern world and the sooner you beetniks realise it the better.
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nacmat
on 2004-01-29 13:38 [#01053719]
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and I find them to be very diferent ones from others (except find candance and doll which seem like a series)
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nacmat
on 2004-06-19 20:24 [#01247751]
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this cd is beautiful
one of my alltime favourites
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hannibal
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-20 09:24 [#01248166]
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i was very impressed by the rhythm element of this album. the extreme attention to detail in snares' programming prevails. i do however find the melodies a bit lacking and sometimes incomplete. i'm a fan of "dad", i think the vocals work very well on that track especially. quite liked "in quod" as well, but there weren't really any other tracks that i wanted to listen to much. so i gave it to a friend.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-20 09:31 [#01248178]
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i do however find the melodies a bit lacking and sometimes incomplete.
thats because you're listening to the master of half assed melodies over boring breaks
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-20 09:31 [#01248179]
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sorry, ill get outta here
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nacmat
on 2004-06-20 12:20 [#01248414]
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you love venetian snares
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2004-06-20 12:25 [#01248419]
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lets just say i love to hate :)
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hannibal
from United Kingdom on 2004-06-20 12:26 [#01248421]
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well i like the melodic content of quite a lot of the snares records i've heard. the tunes on,say, 2370894 (my fave snares cd) are maybe a little more subtle at times,but i find they encourage repeated listening. i just haven't found the tunes on w.i.t.b.o.a.s. or "huge chrome..." particularly inspiring y'know. the last track of the latter is a notable exception.
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nacmat
on 2004-06-20 12:27 [#01248423]
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no, you love his music
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-03 19:07 [#01265189]
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genius
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2004-07-03 19:08 [#01265192]
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hah, ive had this album for months and months, listened to it here and there, thought it was ok, but these past few days, its just totally grown on me.
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nacmat
on 2004-07-04 00:47 [#01265388]
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this one is really one of his bests
at least so I think
for me the best are:
making orange things songs about my cats doll doll doll witboas hccbu
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nacmat
on 2005-07-14 10:55 [#01662723]
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sorry to bump this a year later... but didnt want to start new thread, cos people go wild against it
listening to this now I ve been this last days listening to all the vsnares cds from last album to first one (released)
now I reached doll doll doll and its without a doubt one of the strongest musically talking... apart from being very suffocating, strong and dark, it is beautiful and very powerful, with a deep sense of music I would say... not only beats or melodies... simply good structured music
top quality
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nacmat
on 2005-07-14 10:56 [#01662725]
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fuck me in the ass... I was trying to post in the doll doll doll album... and it doesnt exist
so, please forgive me, I was talking about doll doll doll, so I shouldnt have posted in this thread
mistake
and not drunk
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