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nacmat
on 2003-10-20 11:21 [#00910470]
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Now, lets discuss Autechre - Gantz Graf [WAP256DVD]. Details can be found here
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nacmat
on 2003-10-20 11:22 [#00910473]
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my first question:
would have you included other videos instead of this three?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-10-20 11:24 [#00910476]
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nope thatd unbalance things away from the gantz video
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-20 11:35 [#00910488]
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I bought the DVD box set version of it, I have to say I very rarely watch the DVD, although I like all three videos on there.
The CD is quality though...I still love Gantz Graf and CapVI.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-20 11:41 [#00910498]
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wicked release! i must confess i only really started liking the track after i saw the video, i really lenjoy it now.
the second track is the weakest and most boring of the three imo, and cap.iv is simply brilliant, a nice melody which is pushed to the background by the percussion when it's nearing the climax at the end, i love it!
the video is awesome too, really adds something to the track
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nacmat
on 2003-10-20 11:41 [#00910500]
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the cd is great... it really had to grow on me cos at first I was cold about it, but now is a great listen everytime
and the three videos I like them, but my question is if there would have been other videos better for the dvd (apart from gantz graf of course)
the basscadet one is a bit old imo
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-20 11:42 [#00910501]
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lenjoy=enjoy
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-10-20 12:29 [#00910568]
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i just wish there were videos like gantz graf for all autechre tracks. wouldn't that have been mindblowing?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-20 13:03 [#00910626]
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Yes there is something about their music that sound like organic development of mechanical systems...the gantz graf video managed to capture that. A visual representation of all there music in this way would have been brilliant.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-10-20 13:21 [#00910642]
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A video for capIV would be a dream come true. I wouldn't like it to be in the same style as Gantz Graf though...it'd get boring.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-10-20 13:39 [#00910662]
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I've got my own videos made up in my mind, their albums are very visual. I can't listen to Chiastic Slide without picturing some rusted old metropolis. I really wouldn't WANT videos for it... it would get in the way of my already vivid mental image.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:06 [#00910762]
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its funny that all of these videos have been produced by chris cunningam , the me guy from Afx clips. For me third clip is weakest coz its oldest and theres no such imagination like in first two , specially clip for Gantz.
But i also agree with Ophekcs - videos for Ae music could destroy personal way of feeling this music , althoug its god to know that you can sometimes watch how others are seeing music created by Rob & Sean.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:08 [#00910768]
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I cant wait for offical lwebsite - i read somewhere here that Ae guys allways wanted to have special kind of site - very interactive - lets have hope that we will see it in nearest future.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-20 15:10 [#00910772]
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all awesome
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-10-20 15:11 [#00910774]
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third clip: you mean Basscadet video?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-20 15:13 [#00910780]
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the gantz graf video is NOT by Cunningham.
Alex Rutterford.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-20 15:14 [#00910781]
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looking it up now, Bass Cadet isn't by Cunningham either.
Jess Scott Hunter.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-20 15:14 [#00910782]
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I think you are mistaken...Chris Cunningham only did the Second Bad Vibel video...Alex Rutterford did Gantz Graf and Jess Scott Hunter did Bass Cadet.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:15 [#00910783]
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yeah - its little old , isnt it ? basscadet was released just after Incunabula...
btw Incunabula means "childhood" if you want to know
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-20 15:15 [#00910785]
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Damn you :P
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-10-20 15:15 [#00910786]
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i guess i wrote that yesterday. :)
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:17 [#00910788]
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ooops ! my mistake ...probably i have special version of this box cd/dvd with special cover where all these clips were made by Chris. i can sell it for 1000$ .
but seriously - i would gave my head for chris making these three - this means that ive seen not too much videos to reckognize producers...:)
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-20 15:17 [#00910789]
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lol, where do you get your information from???
Incunabula is actually the term used when referring to books printed around the period of 1501 when printing was only a relatively new thing. It comes from the Latin word cuna meaning cradle.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:18 [#00910792]
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maybe - i know it from my friend who is studying latin language - she said that its pretty album , until 2 minute is starting, he he
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:20 [#00910796]
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well im sure that Incunabula means "childhood" , but it means childhood of fresh born baby , with pampers. i dont know latin - maybe it means something else too , but about my meaning im sure for 10000000%
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-10-20 15:20 [#00910797]
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i wasnt refering to the word incunabula, but to the fact ae wanted this interactive website.
and to quote the discog on this site: 'Incunabula' (from the latin 'incunabel') means 'first', as in "first pressing of a book", and now is used to describe any book printed prior to 1501, or indeed any antique artifact. This makes a lot of sense, since Incunabula is Autechre's first album..
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-10-20 15:21 [#00910800]
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can we stop discussing incunabula in the gantz graf thread now?
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:22 [#00910803]
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also i have unpublished interview from Ae which was in polish idm magazine called Plastik , unfortunatelly its not existing anymore , but if you are interested i might be able to translate it in my wicked english language :) its old interviev , maked after Amber as i remember.
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hyakusen
from 8=============> on 2003-10-20 15:23 [#00910805]
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sure
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2003-10-20 15:29 [#00910816]
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i hate it.
pretentious, unmusical bullshit.
bring back the days of LP5, Amber and Incunabula, i say.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-20 15:31 [#00910821]
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fall down a timetunnel then.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-10-20 15:32 [#00910823]
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How can you call it unmusical? There are definite melodies and patterns in all three tracks.
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big
from lsg on 2003-10-20 15:33 [#00910825]
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gantz graf is the best! i've maybe listened to the other tracks once yet :/ im satisfied after having my gantz graf shot
what it is, it's like in literature the writer can directly interfere in his story, and that's what happens in gg too, the song starts off really kick ass and then they pick it up and completely screw it around untill it goes on track again much later
i like second bad vibe, maybe the best viddi on it, i only think those 'feet' coming down on the camera are stupid, anywho cant wait for the chris cunningham dvd
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-20 16:02 [#00910897]
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I've been working on a new remix of Gantz Graf. It's going nicely.
I love the release though. First time I heard it I was blown away. I didn't know what to think. Spikee had made me a CD and it was on there. I was lying in bed listening to it and suddenly it just exploded out. That 4 second gap is there for a damn good reason. I was just lying there thinking
Fucking hell! FUCKING HELL! What crazy geniuses did this?
Then I looked and it was æ who i'd heard about a lot on here. OH MAN!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-10-20 16:04 [#00910905]
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farr farr too harrsh and not to my taste. ok maybe when you arre in the mood, but i'm not an AE devotee and so imo it is one to miss.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-10-20 16:05 [#00910909]
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its not a bad track, by any means...
but its just to intense for me... esp after remixing it... i spent so much time listening to it, and cutting it up... the waveforms are embedded in my brain :-\
but yeah... its definately good MUSIC
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bryce_berny
from chronno (Canada) on 2003-12-01 03:41 [#00972164]
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this gantz graf video is one of the most intense and amazing music videos I have ever encountered
the complexity of that objects response is insane its like each portion of the music is responsible for making some sort of alteration to a function on a 3d plane
I cannot believe it, my life is forever changed after seeing this video
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Graf Gantz
from whrever you want me to be (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 04:17 [#00972186]
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I could say that I don't like it but for some weid reason people wouldn't believe me so I just say that it's great. Although it's not my fav AE release
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 04:25 [#00972197]
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i'd love to see the video in a cinema or something, on an ultra big screen and the music coming out of huge speakers.
that'd be so intense :)
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nacmat
on 2003-12-01 04:30 [#00972199]
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listening to it after seeing the thread
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k_maty
on 2003-12-01 06:14 [#00972268]
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cap. IV all the way!
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-12-01 06:19 [#00972269]
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gotta love gantz graf and cap. IV...the middle track is ok
the gg video is nice but the other 2 videos on the dvd are totally worthless and annoying
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-12-01 06:21 [#00972272]
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hmm haven listened to that one for a while...
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-12-01 06:23 [#00972275]
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capIV = GOD
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-01 06:25 [#00972278]
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cant be loud enuff for me! i like it ruff
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big
from lsg on 2003-12-01 06:25 [#00972280]
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how the hell can a song be god?
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str_ph
from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-01 06:49 [#00972303]
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Sharing the exact same feeling (about the songs and the videos).
Also, I find Gantz Graf (the track) to be very danceable.
Concerning the origin of the song title, I know that a 'Gantt Graph' is a project management tool (sort of detailed schedule) ~ now I don't know if this name could originate from there.
http://singer.kettering.edu/gantt.htm
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Graf Gantz
from whrever you want me to be (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 07:22 [#00972319]
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Call me paranoid but for some reason I don't think people will believe me if I said that I don't like this one. So I do like it, although it's not my fav AE release.
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Graf Gantz
from whrever you want me to be (Netherlands, The) on 2003-12-01 07:24 [#00972320]
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WTF just happened? I only see my previous (and almost similair) reply after a couple of hours! Something kinda went wrong I guess.... sorry for that.
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TonyFish
from the realm of our dreams on 2003-12-01 07:27 [#00972321]
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There's also a Mr Gantz in the history of computer science I think...
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