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offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-08 16:13 [#00895050]
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What a shit album...apart from two tracks that are mildly
interesting the album is wank. Everyone's doing the Ragga
thing now too...boring...

Snares tracks are even songs...it is uninspired shit random
chop up beats...then he has a seperate weak as fuck melody
playing at the same time...there is never any interaction
between the two...I seriously can't understand how he is
having stuff released on a label when there are people both
here and on WATMM that could shit on him and his wank music.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-10-08 16:14 [#00895052]
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ill giev it a few more weeks.

waiting to throw a fit and fuctulike.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-10-08 16:16 [#00895057]
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at least it was free.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-08 16:17 [#00895059]
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Yes but I have wasted part of my life listenening to
it...life I can never have back...gone...just like
that...never to be reclaimed... :(


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-10-08 16:21 [#00895066]
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unlike the life you waste posting here.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-08 16:22 [#00895069]
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so in summary, venetian snares is rubbish


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-08 16:23 [#00895072]
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Yes but I enjoy posting here...I don't enjoy listening to
talentless wank.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-10-08 16:24 [#00895075]
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I like it. I like all his albums. I think he's great.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-08 16:26 [#00895081]
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I used to like vsnares when i first discovered 'idm', i
later realised that he is absolute shit.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-10-08 16:27 [#00895087]
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yes but you can't post your opinions on talentless wank
unless you listen to it first.


 

offline Rambling Madman from the future (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-08 16:27 [#00895090]
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Chopping shit up is a dirty job but someones gota do
it........



 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-10-08 16:28 [#00895091]
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I HOPE YOU LEAVE ENOUGH ROOM FOR MY FIST, BECAUSE IM GONNA
RAM IT INTO YOUR STOMACH !


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-10-08 16:29 [#00895092]
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woah, that could be a vocal sample from a snares track.


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-10-08 16:30 [#00895093]
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Venetian Snares is good from what I heard, but too abrasive
to listen to in the long run. Especially if you have a job
and twelve kids to feed, and a stable to keep clean for all
your ponies and glue to buy to sell to Brazilian kids in
exchange for crack cocaine. and fuckin bananas cockwank fuck
bastard etc etc etc.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-08 16:31 [#00895095]
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Your girly limp wrists would snap upon impact.


 

offline Inverted Whale from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-10-08 16:32 [#00895097]
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Venetian Snares is really no different than Bill Haley & His
Comets if you think about it.


 

offline nene from United States on 2003-10-08 16:34 [#00895100]
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yes. they both have spit curls.


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-10-08 17:33 [#00895162]
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ive been saying he's overrated forever


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-08 17:35 [#00895164]
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I try not to concern myself about how music is made. If it
got to a point where I thought, shit I could do that so I
won't bother buying it, things would get pretty lame the
more talented I get. Something complicated can sound just as
good as something uncomplicated. I'd rather enjoy the sounds
instead of ruining it for myself by stripping it to pieces.
Also, if you don't like something the next person will so
all music has its place.

Slagging music off sure is fun tho, releases a lot of
tension.

I used to hate snares because of some of his tracks but I
found the simple solution to this was to buy only the stuff
I like and disregard the rest. I'm looking forward to
hearing this album, I hope I don't like it in a way so I can
save my cash for the next Rephlex releases.

I wish AFX was as productive as snares.


 

online big from lsg on 2003-10-08 17:37 [#00895165]
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i thought this'd be about a wheelchair you could get for
free by saving chocolate wraps
those things áre hoaxes, if you will, you should know
*crawls from compu to bed*


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-08 17:38 [#00895166]
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How can anyone be overrated? If lots of people like you then
lots of people like you regardless of your technique.


 

offline Spikee Dragon from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-08 17:41 [#00895169]
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Imagine sitting in a chocolate wheelchair? You would slowly
melt thru it unless it cracked and you just busted your ass
on the floor.


 

online big from lsg on 2003-10-08 17:44 [#00895175]
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but would have cholate between your buttcheeks maybe, hmmm


 

offline euphonicfilter from illadelphia (United States) on 2003-10-08 17:46 [#00895179]
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i just listened to this album and can safely say its the
only vsnares i would consider buying - gotta give it more of
a listen - but wow - the ragga tracks are REAL nice...

like the smojphace ep remix of bug - that song is REAL nice

argh


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-08 17:47 [#00895181]
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What's wrong with that?


 

online big from lsg on 2003-10-08 17:48 [#00895185]
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what do you think i try to express with hmmm, disgust? i
dont think so
*rubs his cheeks*


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-08 17:51 [#00895188]
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Yep I track 5 was one of the only 2 I thought was OK...but
all this Ragga bandwagon jumping is bollocks...The Bug did
it best...I think snares effort is better than the AFX remix
but that's not saying all that much.

Overall I am getting very disillusioned with electronic
music in general. Sure there is still some decent stuff,but
for me it has lost it's edge :(


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-10-08 19:28 [#00895296]
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blah blah blah blah


 

offline princo from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-10-08 19:34 [#00895304]
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It's a top album.
Still can't get over how cool 'Sky Painted on Car' is!
Brillient track!


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-10-08 20:23 [#00895340]
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big girl's blouse


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-10-09 06:07 [#00895645]
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I liked it, took a few listens. Its no Doll Doll Doll : )

*I sampled SLAVE like 2 years ago for the record : )



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-10-09 06:10 [#00895650]
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I haven't heard Chocolate Wheelchair yet, but his ''new''
one (due out June 2004) sounds good, judging the little
sound clips... nice old school videogame flavor. So I'm
diggin' it.

He's good, but the guy puts out too much stuff, and he's not
talented enough to consistently put out great stuff. Too
much filler. Doll Doll Doll is still my favorite.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-10-09 10:00 [#00895937]
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Jeez....why the fuck all this comparing/overanalyzing of
one's music?

Just slam this baby in your CD player or play it from
winamp, boost the volume and enjoy.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-10-09 10:02 [#00895942]
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Oh, and Abomination Street, Epidermis and Marty's Tardis
own!


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-09 10:09 [#00895950]
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some of you must be easily amused.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-09 10:12 [#00895954]
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I listened to it again today and I suppose it's not as bad
as I first thought it was...it is the kind of thing you
would get a few listens out of and then never listen to
again.

There is still so much better stuff out there though that
doesn't even get a look in. I have said in the past I don't
think badly of snares, he does what he has to do to make a
living. He is the Madonna of electronic music, not
particularly talented music wise but there is something
about what he does that appeals to quite a few people...good
luck to him.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-10-09 10:16 [#00895958]
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Some of you act a bit elitist by expecting music to be
written in CSound/MaxMSP in order to enjoy it.

If you dont like it: fine, but don't go all "his music is
crap because it's just triggering samples" (which you, in
all honesty, don't even know for sure).


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-10-09 10:17 [#00895959]
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(That was a follow-up to tibbar)


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-10-09 10:19 [#00895963]
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what a shit album or what a shit artist ?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-09 10:20 [#00895968]
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WHAT'S A SNARE DRUM MUM


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-09 10:24 [#00895974]
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Don't be daft...there are a lot of artists who do exactly
the same as snares but better. Squarepusher makes
music..his tracks in general sound as though they have been
crafted, the sounds play off each other. As I said
previously tons of snares stuff just sounds like a chopped
up beat with a melody as an after thought, as though he
produces his percussion then tries to tack something over
the top. Also, a lot of his stuff is the same thing over
and over (phasing the sound from left to right is a major
thing I dislike from him). He doesn't even seem to develop,
everything he releases seems to be his drill take on the
current flavour in electronic music, rarely it pays off but
most of the time it is just forgettable.


 

offline japes from Suriname on 2003-10-09 10:28 [#00895980]
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Snares is wicked. The only problem I have with his stuff is
it never really grooves. His best is 'Good Jungle' off
Shitfuckers, 'Skelechairs Remix', 'Dance Like You're Selling
Nails' and 'Einstein Rosen Bridge'. They're the most stable
sounding I reckon.

In summery: Incredible beatage, but just not enough rhythm
for my liking.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-10-09 10:32 [#00895985]
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That's exactly what I mean :)

No, Aaron is not a brilliant composer, I think of him more
as a beat programmer. And that, dear ecnadniarb, is
something he is very good at. No, melody is certainly
not something that ranks high with Mr. Funk.

So, concluding, Aaron Funk is not a composer whose tracks
you play, put on headphones and go analysing every subtle
sound and interaction with melody etc. To me, his tracks are
the party music of alternative electronic music. Play his
tracks and don't even start analysing his sounds as if it
were >[] or ae.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-10-09 10:34 [#00895989]
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I'd agree with you there...it is good for passive agressive
listening :D


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-10-09 10:36 [#00895994]
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Exactly, I'd say his music is best for getting people in a
good mood (as his track titles and references are often very
humourous). I wouldn't mind going out to a club where
VSnares is played all night :D


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-10-09 10:43 [#00896001]
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i dont even know what Csound is. or maxMSP. and as far as
elitsm goes...

i don't listen to any old crap that comes down the pike. if
that's elitism, then sorry. i like artistic stuff, not
slopped together garbage. i like things with a certain
mentality behind them. i dont like pedophilia or people who
try to be "f***ed up".

elitism comes from being egotistical and thinking you are
superior.

having an opinion or a higher standard for art is just that.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-10-09 10:51 [#00896007]
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CSound and MaxMSP were just technical examples. What I was
referring to, though, is music that is created almost in a
scientific way, music like ae does. Not implying that I
don't like autechre or music put together "artistically", as
you put it. I'm not criticizing your taste either. I just
think it should be possible to enjoy music that is made to
have fun listening to, rather than analysing every little
scrap of "artistically" created little sound while smoking a
pipe and drinking Courvoisier.

Futhermore, I refer to both my previous post directed at
ecnadniarb and Winter In the Belly of a Snake (that's also
by VSnares)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-09 10:59 [#00896010]
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I like Snares cause I like sticking my cock in infants.


 

offline blrr from the block on 2003-10-09 11:12 [#00896024]
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oh dear.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-10-09 11:21 [#00896036]
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I remember people used to say all these things about RJ back
in the 90's - Especially when the Classics album came out -
I remember everyone was just as divided back then.
I can totally understand why some people don't "get" Snares'
music, I'm actually surprised I'm into it! It's not the kind
of stuff I usually go for atall...
I (personally) think Snares' music is about 5+ years ahead
of its time - Exactly what a lot of us thought about Aphexs'
early stuff.
Just my opinion of course - But any (remotely)
groundbreaking artist always comes under heavy critisism for
the first half of their career.


 


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