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just because squarepusher uses a fast amen loop doesnt mean he is an "originator", and that anyone else who uses it in a different way is a rip off. plenty of people use amen breaks, and honestly other than the blatant "amen loop" comparison, i dont hear a shred of similarity between them. oh, unless you count "jazz". squarepusher invented that too! what a rip off! that aside, the "random" argument is pretty much retarded and i hope to never see it again because it makes no sense. it is funny seeing people throw "random" in the mix though. i dont know. i dont see any reason to get angry over it. if you dont like him, go ahead and hate him but dont us bullshitty arguments that get people riled up. nobody likes that. unless of course someone likes acting like a dick. then its ok i guess. ive liked things venetian snares has done in the past, also completely dismissed things. it goes pretty much both ways. but im not going to go around yelling "random" and "rip off" at people because its stupid. |
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Venetian Snares is just a random rip-off. |
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I agree with disasemble but, my point is more that all music is just opinion. There's nothing inherently good or bad about music - it's all a matter of personal taste - whether you like Squarepusher, Venetian Snares or Britney Spears. |
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Nobody has called Squarepusher and originator of using the Amen break...just that VSnores rips his particular style off...and not just squarepushers...he doesn't seem to have ever done anything original in his career. Always one step behind. Also I don't think I have heard one thing from snores that I would class a jazzy so I dunno where you get that comparison from. By using the word random I think it is used more in the sense of unstructured rather than totally random. It's a few minutes of fast beats that never really groove. The only person who appears angry at the moment is yourself. Good day |
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Jazzy - try Moonglow/This Bitter Earth I don't care who 'rips' off who? Fuck Elvis ripped early R&B, Beatles ripped off Bob Dylan's lyrical style, Aphex ripped off Eno, etc., etc. |
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he has plenty of jazzy moments. listen to badmitton/edgewood park or whatever that is. very jazz influenced. he also has a lot of free jazz moments in songs on doll doll doll. and various others. i agree with the fast thing. things fly by too fast, theres nothing grounded. i dont like that part of his music, theres nothing to grasp. just very fractured and chaotic. though its not like this all the time. am i angry because im using swear words? or was it my tone of voice? grow up. i didnt point fingers at anyone here, and now you are to me. i was stating that people get angry about these things and take it personal when they shouldnt. |
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If anyone sucks around here, it's got to be Plaid. |
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i love plaid |
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God ripped off horsefactory |
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Ha - I hate their music, but I was just kidding around. |
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it is almost as bad as a real live chocolate wheelchair as seen on tv |
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now that i can agree with |
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man you would be so easy to wind up...your friends must have some mad fun at your expense and what's with the wordy replies? I respond better to things like "shut up cunt" :P |
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I didn't say that Squarepusher invented anything. They dont sound similar but its the next closest thing. ANYWAYS I dont give a fuck about people ripping off other people. I'm just saying that Vsnares style has worn itself out and its just annoying now. Overrated. All his shit is starting to sound the same. Its getting trite and boring. Lacks emotion, tries to hard... etc etc. Of course someone had to explore that 'territory' of music, but he just stays there and doesn't move around and I'm tired of watching him go nowhere. |
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ill remember that nextime ;) |
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message board is quite a bit different from real life, so probably not. not anymore than i do to them, i can swing both ways, if you know wha ti mean. |
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Yeah I know what you mean. I used to spend so much time on my computer when I met people in real life to chat to them I used to type on their face. |
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Hahaha |
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All the snares I've heard (and I probably haven't heard enough, but what I have heard is not good enough to warrant me wanting to hear more) is pretty much talentless wank, as someone else put it. I guess some of you have a pretty large grey area between music and jumbled sound effects. |
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so you hate their music, but don't think that it sucks? strange opinion you've got yourself there. btw, plaid could shit all over vsnares with a buttplug the size of texas locked in tight. |
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hahah |
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I think snares is the most structured un-random sounding music I've heard. If you can't count to 7, 9 or 13 you can't groove to his beats. I find most of his melodies very evocative. But then I am half spanish. At least I'm not a scouser, just a spick. |
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I think snares is the most structured un-random sounding music I've heard. If you can't count to 7, 9 or 13 you can't groove to his beats. I find most of his melodies very evocative. But then I am half spanish. At least I'm not a scouser, just a spick. |
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So he's unoriginal is he? Squarepusher has been doing the same fucking thing for years (with the same breaks no less) and yet when Ultravisitor leaked half the people on the board were all over it. But I don't mind that. Like what you like. Just because it sounds boring to you doesn't mean the next man feels the same. |
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I haven't heard Ultravisitor, and bashing Squarepusher doesn't make a good defense for Vsnares, so lets stop mentioning Tom, shall we? Snares can't even groove in 4/4 let alone 7/8. |
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good slickness isn't bad. Like squarepusher. He makes cools sounds. |
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This started out as a stupid argument, and has now blossomed into just plain ridiculous.. I'm not even going to try any more. |
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When Snares does something like Music Is Rotted One Note you can come back with that arguement. deforrest why would I want to count while I am listenening to music. As you see above my problem with snares is down to allowing the beats to groove, which, whatever way you look at it he doesn't. You're right the topic has got stupid now because you Snores lovers are trying to defend the indefensible. I've said before, I don't think much of him musically, but he gives the kids what they want, and for some that is all that matters. |
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thank whatever, I am spanish |
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For the record I like Feed Me Weird Things and Music Is Rotted One Note more than anything Snares has released. |
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if we're gonna pit vsnares vs. squarepusher (which is pretty shitty to do) chocolate wheelchair and higgins ultrafunk whatever, rip go plastic's pants off. stuff like tracks 3 and 7 at least on that album at least. vsnares has a bit more angst and rock influence than squarepusher, enough that i don't think comparing them directly is fair. there's more elements of the cheesy hardcore like panacea in there. vsnares isn't a rip off in my opinion because he has his own trademarks, like "note, note, note (minor)" basslines. also he tends to incorporate a variety of bassdrum and snare sounds in any one sequence. don't fucking compare how great they are melodically, and what the fuck are you doing comparing snares to music is rotted one note. i don't think squarepusher is going to put out a dark ambient album, just like snares isn't going to put out a free jazz album. |
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What kinda name is Aaron Funk? Only an idiot would have Funk somewhere in their name! |
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that's his real last name... you knew that right? |
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no, no really... I've always assumed it was a nickname, but I'm not a fan anyways, so I don't pay attention... and it was a joke anyways... |
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No body compared Music Is Rotted to anything of Snares...I was just using it as an example of the greater dirversity in Squarepushers work. The major difference is that Tom could put out a dark ambience drill album where as Snares couldn't do a free jazz album. |
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uh, yep |
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Glad you agree. |
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TELL HIM STEVE-DAVE! |
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