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offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-09-29 15:43 [#00883034]
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hey im new to this board, so um hiya first of all. so yeah.
ive been making electronic music for a while now, and have
recently tried to start making some drill n bass/breakbeat
but normally what i make comes out sounding... well... not
good lets say. i just wanna make crazy glitchy breaks like
squarepusher and afx (like the stuff of red hot car and 54
cymru beats) so anyone got any sudjestions on what software
to use? at home i have fruity loops, acid, reason, and sound
forge and at school ive got digital performer and sound
edit. o yeah, and price is not a problem
(*cough*kazaa*cough*) any help would be appreciated thanx


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-29 15:46 [#00883037]
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i dunno much about programs, i just use a wav editor. but a
good way to make drill i guess is to make the bpm really
high and spread the beats out


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-29 15:48 [#00883043]
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you need a good midi editor. The one in cubase kicks ass.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-29 15:49 [#00883046]
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FUCK YOU MY ADVICE IS BEST, MISTER COURTNEY LOVE


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-29 15:50 [#00883049]
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As roygbiv said, doubling or even quadrupling the BPm and
then spreading the "normal" beats out accordingly allows you
to do some mental drum programming. For the crazilly fast
bits you need very fast attack and decay on a snare, as
short a sound as possible without it just sounding like a
speaker click.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-09-29 15:51 [#00883050]
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ive heard great drill style beats made in Renoise


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-29 15:52 [#00883054]
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doormouse uses renoise now

i am king


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-29 15:53 [#00883055]
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you need fruity loops
the slicer solves everything


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-09-29 15:54 [#00883058]
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oh, and i forget

*WELCOME TO THE BOARD*


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-29 15:56 [#00883061]
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hi hedphukkerr
i think your cool for starters
:)


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-09-29 15:58 [#00883065]
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yeah ive been recording midi drum tracks at around 100 bpm
and then speeding it up to 200, and it sounds all right, but
i guess one thing i need to do is find some shorter sounds,
since if i make it go really fast, it just gets slurred.
also, where is the slicer in fruity loops, im not as
familiar with that as other software, except that i know
next to nothing about reason, i just have it so i can say
"oooooh i use reason!" blech


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-09-29 15:58 [#00883066]
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thanks big


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-09-29 15:58 [#00883067]
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I'd just say the same as what's been said already.

Create a break'ish beat and boost the tempo a lot.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-29 16:01 [#00883073]
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no no no, you don't speed up the beats.

ok it's like this.
120 bpm
0...0...0...0...
would be like this
240 bpm
0.......0.......0......0......


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-29 16:01 [#00883074]
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the beat is the same but there's lots more room inbetween to
fuck with shit :D


 

online big from lsg on 2003-09-29 16:06 [#00883083]
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sample a drill and play some bass over it!
haha


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-09-29 16:09 [#00883087]
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roygbiv: yeah i do that, but i also record slower so i can
more accurately throw shit in there, instead of just jumping
from key to key without thinking what the hell in doing


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2003-09-29 16:41 [#00883141]
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The midi editor on Cubase is king in my mind. But thats a
good point about using sounds with a quick attack and little
decay. Fucking shit up in Soundforge is good too.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-29 17:29 [#00883175]
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i use soundforge. so does aaron funk.



 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-29 17:30 [#00883176]
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so there.


 

offline Phresch from fucking Trondheim (Norway) on 2003-09-29 17:35 [#00883181]
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offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-29 17:40 [#00883183]
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lol


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-29 17:53 [#00883195]
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This is a Cubase place, then?
I prefer Logic. Mainly through experience (Cubase has,
without fail, buggered up my files every time I've used it,
whilst Logic is perfect). But yes, you can just zoom in so
you see 192ndths of beats, then just click in that portion
of a snare, and then copy/paste it. It's how I've done my
drill stuff in Logic.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-09-29 17:54 [#00883198]
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Not a Cubase place at all...


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2003-09-29 18:00 [#00883203]
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I luv Cubase.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-09-29 18:03 [#00883206]
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hm seems logic is mac only, or from what i see, which is a
prob since the macs are school comps, thus i cant get my own
software on them. im guessing i should go the cubase root
then?


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-09-29 18:04 [#00883207]
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Cubase is great. My main sequencer.


 

offline hedphukkerr from mathbotton (United States) on 2003-09-29 18:06 [#00883214]
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o yeah, anybody got some tips for using digital performer
for breaks? cuz thats what i gots me at school and cant very
well change that one


 

offline hepburnenthorpe from sydney (Australia) on 2003-09-30 10:44 [#00884099]
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i use trackers for drums. quicker to program, and i seem to
be able to get more details in my beats.


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-30 10:46 [#00884102]
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I use Logic for PC and absolutely detest Macs.
So it's not just for Mac. They're just not doing any newer
versions for PC, since Apple bought them out (or some
similar thing).


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-09-30 12:26 [#00884247]
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faggot


 

offline _d_ from illadelph (United States) on 2003-09-30 14:52 [#00884400]
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Lots of careful MIDI and audio editing, as Phresch has
stated, is the way to that sound you cherish. Begs the
question though: why would you want to do something that
1,000's have already done? Try something different like
granular synthesis...oh nevermind, AE has 100% market share
on that one...how about buffer-manipulation...oh, that's
been done too. Sorry, I'm no help.
[d]


 


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