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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 12:25 [#00855153] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
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 | http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/08/music.downloa... 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2003-09-08 12:26 [#00855156] Points: 16065 Status: Regular
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 | *erases slsk folder 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:32 [#00855162] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker
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 | that's their master plan? what a fucking joke. 
 
 
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         |  Phobiazero
             from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 12:33 [#00855163] Points: 10507 Status: Webmaster | Show recordbag
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 | it's hillarious 
 
 
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         |  LeCoeur
             from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-08 12:34 [#00855165] Points: 8249 Status: Lurker
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 | i figured it was only a matter of time. slsk has gotten progressively worse since the RIAA came down on peepz.
 
 i'm sure that record companies are putting pressure on the
 RIAA to do something due to declining sales. =/
 
 
 
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         |  JAroen
             from the pineal gland on 2003-09-08 12:35 [#00855167] Points: 16065 Status: Regular
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 | that thing about promising not to share files sounds like something they do in kindergarten
 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:36 [#00855168] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker | Followup to JAroen: #00855167
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 | that's what i was saying. 
 that's the best they could come up with? sad.
 
 
 
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         |  Netlon Sentinel
             from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-08 12:36 [#00855169] Points: 4736 Status: Lurker
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 | the mp3 virus is their true answer, i say 
 
 
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         |  nobsmuggler
             from silly mid-off on 2003-09-08 12:38 [#00855170] Points: 6265 Status: Addict
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 | they claim cd sales went down but in england sales are up by 30% (approx) on last year thats according to the bbc last
 month (i forgot to post the article)
 
 
 
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         |  ambsace
             from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:47 [#00855184] Points: 6326 Status: Lurker
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 | but thanks for sharing, phob. good to know. 
 
 
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         |  atgmartin
             from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-08 13:29 [#00855231] Points: 873 Status: Lurker
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 | Hey everyone!  I want to download some music.  Everyone email me your slsk user names at
 atgmartin.mole4RIAA@shit-holes.com
 
 
 
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         |  scup_bucket
             from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-08 13:30 [#00855232] Points: 4540 Status: Regular
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 | i thought the riaa was targetting kazaa mainly 
 
 
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         |  Morton
             from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-08 13:30 [#00855233] Points: 10000 Status: Addict | Followup to atgmartin: #00855231
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 | lol :) 
 
 
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         |  evolume
             from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-08 14:59 [#00855290] Points: 10965 Status: Regular
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 | hmmm let's do some math: 
 261 people sued / 60,000,000 people sharing files = .000435%
 chance (roughly 1 in 230,000) of being sued by RIAA
 representatives.
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-08 15:02 [#00855291] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker | Followup to evolume: #00855290
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 | I thought there were about 35 million, but even so: 
 35,000,000/50 lawsuits per day=700,000 days= 1917 years to
 get everyone at that rate.
 
 HA HAH!
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:05 [#00855293] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | Even if they managed a crackdown on P2P networks like kazaa they'd never stop file sharing... people would just resort
 to private systems like Elusive's FTP etc.
 
 Rephlex have the right idea with some of their releases... I
 just bought a record today (new Bogdan) because they had
 made it freely available to DL, I liked it and now I've
 bought it. Would I have bought it if those mp3s weren't
 there? Probably not, unless I had DLed it from SS.
 
 
 
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         |  Jedi Chris
             on 2003-09-08 15:13 [#00855296] Points: 11496 Status: Lurker
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 | *also stops sharing on SS* 
 
 
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         |  drummond
             from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-09-08 15:19 [#00855300] Points: 1021 Status: Addict
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 | paranoia.... 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2003-09-08 15:19 [#00855301] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker
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 | [flameworthy comment] 
 i can't believe they are getting mad at people for stealing
 and re-distributing music.
 
 *breaks into wal-mart*
 
 *steals 40,000 CDs*
 
 *gets mad at police for arresting me*
 
 [/flameworthy comment]
 
 
 
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         |  mappatazee
             from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-08 15:23 [#00855308] Points: 14302 Status: Lurker
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 | I don't worry because I own the majority of the music on my computer.  Also, anything I don't own I don't think
 belongs to the RIAA's companies (BMI, Warner, Sony, etc.)
 
 
 
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         |  Key_Secret
             from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 15:26 [#00855311] Points: 9325 Status: Regular | Followup to Ceri JC: #00855293
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 | well... the technology (mp3 and similar) is never the problem...
 The problem is when it's abused, like it is today by many
 many people.
 That's what sucks so much; that some people might ruin this
 thing for other people... =/
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:27 [#00855313] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to mappatazee: #00855308 | Show recordbag
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 | Yep -fortunatley for us, Warp et all seem a little more forward thinking with regard to MP3s and seem to accept that
 for them at least, it gives exposure and does more good than
 harm to them. So many people here said they discovered AT/Ae
 by stumbling on a file on a P2P. Only people/labels I can
 think of that disagree is Benbecula (label) and Ulrich
 Schnauss (artist)... both of which I discovered through P2P
 and subsequently bought records from!
 
 
 
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         |  Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:29 [#00855315] Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Followup to Key_Secret: #00855311 | Show recordbag
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 | I know, it's not the thought of me not being able to pirate music in future that annoys me- it's me not getting to hear
 the next Boards of Canada or Ulrich Schnauss that winds me
 up...
 
 
 
 
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         |  Ophecks
             from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-08 15:31 [#00855317] Points: 19190 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | Didn't they just cut the price of CDs by a couple of bucks or something? I haven't been paying attention.
 
 Now that probably won't affect me at all, being a
 Northerner.
 
 
 
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         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2003-09-08 15:32 [#00855320] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker | Followup to epohs: #00855301
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 | If you broke into Walmart, you would be stealing HARDWARE... how can you steal music? It's not possible - it's
 just men in suits out to make a buck.
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2003-09-08 15:33 [#00855323] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | are those mp3 viruses common? (and mac-compatible?)
 
 
 
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         |  epohs
             from )C: on 2003-09-08 15:36 [#00855324] Points: 17620 Status: Lurker | Followup to marlowe: #00855320
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 | people's time/effort/work/thought goes into both. 
 /devil's advocate
 
 i don't at all try to justify the major lables as the good
 guys at all, because they are certainly money hungry,
 close-minded, corporate tycoons.  but, i also don't try to
 justify my d/l'ed mp3's as morally superior either.
 
 
 
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         |  Loogie
             from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 16:03 [#00855331] Points: 1371 Status: Lurker
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 | mp3's are data files rather than executables therefore i don't see how one could ever be a virus
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:14 [#00855334] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to Loogie: #00855331
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 | Ark-shully there was a problem with Winamp where the id3 tags could cause a buffer overflow - that means if you stuck
 long enough crap into those fields you could overflow into
 an executable area of memory and like do shit.
 
 I don't think the flaw was ever exploited though...
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:14 [#00855335] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00855334
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 | Oh and the problem was fixed yonks ago so if you're running the latest winamp no probs.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:24 [#00855338] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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 | I will never buy another product from an RIAA affiliated label. They can kiss my pink unholy mousie holie.
 
 On the other hand I plan to buy lots of stuff from smaller
 labels like Tomlab, Carpark, Mu, Skam et cetera.
 
 Here is a list of labels not to buy from. Stand on their
 necks until they pass out.
 
 
 
 
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         |  J Swift
             from United Kingdom on 2003-09-08 16:28 [#00855341] Points: 650 Status: Regular
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 | How can they track you from your Soul Seek/Kazaa name then? Can they get your IP address somehow? Then track your
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         |  evolume
             from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-08 16:33 [#00855345] Points: 10965 Status: Regular
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 | It's like the "tree falling in the woods" question.  Music only exists when there is somebody there to hear it.  In the
 void of space, there is no medium to transmit soundwaves.
 so in space, does music even exist?
 The Mp3 is music encoded into raw data.  without a decoder,
 the mp3 is not music.
 
 if you make available mp3's for others to download, how is
 your action any different than Sony or Magnavox or Intel
 making available the technology to decode and listen to
 mp3's?  By sharing files, you are only one link in a chain
 of participants that made sharing possible.
 
 Even more frustrating is that companies like Sony are making
 money off of people "stealing" their own product.  Sony
 makes and sells the tools to steal music that they produce.
 But what do they have to gain by doing this?  exposure
 deffinately.
 
 I think it comes down to marketing.  The fact is, taking
 advantage of filesharing would mean record companies would
 have to totally rework and reconfigure their marketing
 strategy.  This would take time and most importantly it
 would take money.  It is much easier to make a few idle
 threats and try to discourage the inevitable change that
 someday they will be forced to accept.
 
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:42 [#00855353] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker
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 | Even more frustrating is that companies like Sony are making money off of people "stealing" their own product.
 Sony makes and sells the tools to steal music that they
 produce. But what do they have to gain by doing this?
 exposure deffinately.
 
 That's an interesting point! A company as large as Sony can
 afford to have losses in one sector subsidized by profits in
 another. God knows Micrososft's been playing that game for
 long enough...
 
 
 
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         |  uzim
             on 2003-09-08 17:16 [#00855380] Points: 17716 Status: Lurker
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 | fleetmouse > is there a list of labels you can buy from? that would be easier....
 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:02 [#00855403] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
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 | Record sales are down because major record companies are releasing SHIT music that NOBODY WANTS.
 
 They hate mp3 sharing because it allows the user to preview
 the entire album, then the user realizes that only 1 decent
 song is on the album, so they dont have to buy the album and
 they just keep that one song. Big record companies dont want
 you to preview, they just want you to buy the entire thing
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:03 [#00855404] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
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 | And for all you people who have decided to no longer share your files because of this - You are doing exactly what THEY
 want you to do. Stand up for what you believe in for Christs
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:09 [#00855408] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to uzim: #00855380
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 | Probably most of the stuff you like is non-RIAA anyways. 
 I had a link to a site that let you conduct searches to find
 out if bands and labels are riaa safe but it seems to be
 down at the moment :: ominous music ::
 
 weatheredstoner -> I stopped sharing because slsk was
 fucking up my ASIO latency but I'll be sharing later,
 username fleetmouse
 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:14 [#00855413] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to fleetmouse: #00855408
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 | yeah, i kinda figured you wouldn't back out because the RIAA is scaring you.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:16 [#00855414] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to weatheredstoner: #00855413
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 | It helps to be Canadian cause they let us get away with more stuff cause we have to live in the still-warm bodies of
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-09-08 18:32 [#00855421] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #00855408
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 | I've got a link to a site that says elves and goblins are real...  Do you want me to pass it on to you for your *FACT*
 bookmarks?
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:45 [#00855427] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00855421
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 | I'm sure your collection of fairy bookmarks is most comprehensive.
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-09-08 18:49 [#00855429] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #00855427
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 | Are you trying to say fairys don't exist? 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:56 [#00855431] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00855429
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 | I know there's a brain fairy, and I hope he left you a nice shiny quarter.
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-09-08 18:59 [#00855433] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #00855431
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 | 'quarter' you pathetic idiot.  Your currency is worthless, toy money.  There's some nice bits of canada, where exactly
 are you from? are you lonely?
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 19:08 [#00855439] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00855433
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 | You're always trying to find stuff out about me 
 WHO IS YOUR DADDY AND WHAT DOES HE DO
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-09-08 19:14 [#00855441] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #00855439
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 | How do you know that? Do you let stray canadian dogs sniff your miniature crotch? You must do, to be sincere with that
 comparison, or were you talking bullshit again?  If you're
 ashamed of where you are from it's okay....it's sad, but
 it's okay.
 
 
 
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         |  fleetmouse
             from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 19:15 [#00855443] Points: 18042 Status: Lurker | Followup to JivverDicker: #00855441
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 | now you have to cover it in cheese sauce and eat it 
 
 
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         |  titsworth
             from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-08 19:21 [#00855445] Points: 14550 Status: Lurker
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 | hey jivver when you're not busy sending fleetmouse love letters you might want to check some emails from paula and i
 about a month ago, some important stuff has happened. if
 you've read them then your silence is frankly baffling.
 
 
 
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         |  JivverDicker
             from my house on 2003-09-08 19:21 [#00855446] Points: 12102 Status: Regular | Followup to fleetmouse: #00855443
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 | I'm sorry, you are annoying though.  I'll ignore you from now on, you're probably 12. G'night!
 
 
 
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