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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 12:25 [#00855153]
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/08/music.downloa...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-08 12:26 [#00855156]
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*erases slsk folder
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:32 [#00855162]
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that's their master plan? what a fucking joke.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 12:33 [#00855163]
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it's hillarious
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-08 12:34 [#00855165]
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i figured it was only a matter of time. slsk has gotten progressively worse since the RIAA came down on peepz.
i'm sure that record companies are putting pressure on the RIAA to do something due to declining sales. =/
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-09-08 12:35 [#00855167]
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that thing about promising not to share files sounds like something they do in kindergarten
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:36 [#00855168]
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that's what i was saying.
that's the best they could come up with? sad.
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-08 12:36 [#00855169]
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the mp3 virus is their true answer, i say
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-09-08 12:38 [#00855170]
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they claim cd sales went down but in england sales are up by 30% (approx) on last year thats according to the bbc last month (i forgot to post the article)
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:47 [#00855184]
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but thanks for sharing, phob. good to know.
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atgmartin
from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-08 13:29 [#00855231]
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Hey everyone! I want to download some music. Everyone email me your slsk user names at atgmartin.mole4RIAA@shit-holes.com
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scup_bucket
from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-08 13:30 [#00855232]
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i thought the riaa was targetting kazaa mainly
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-08 13:30 [#00855233]
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lol :)
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-08 14:59 [#00855290]
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hmmm let's do some math:
261 people sued / 60,000,000 people sharing files = .000435% chance (roughly 1 in 230,000) of being sued by RIAA representatives.
i like those odds, personally.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-08 15:02 [#00855291]
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I thought there were about 35 million, but even so:
35,000,000/50 lawsuits per day=700,000 days= 1917 years to get everyone at that rate.
HA HAH!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:05 [#00855293]
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Even if they managed a crackdown on P2P networks like kazaa they'd never stop file sharing... people would just resort to private systems like Elusive's FTP etc.
Rephlex have the right idea with some of their releases... I just bought a record today (new Bogdan) because they had made it freely available to DL, I liked it and now I've bought it. Would I have bought it if those mp3s weren't there? Probably not, unless I had DLed it from SS.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-09-08 15:13 [#00855296]
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*also stops sharing on SS*
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-09-08 15:19 [#00855300]
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paranoia....
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-08 15:19 [#00855301]
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[flameworthy comment]
i can't believe they are getting mad at people for stealing and re-distributing music.
*breaks into wal-mart*
*steals 40,000 CDs*
*gets mad at police for arresting me*
[/flameworthy comment]
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-08 15:23 [#00855308]
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I don't worry because I own the majority of the music on my computer. Also, anything I don't own I don't think belongs to the RIAA's companies (BMI, Warner, Sony, etc.)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 15:26 [#00855311]
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well... the technology (mp3 and similar) is never the problem...
The problem is when it's abused, like it is today by many many people.
That's what sucks so much; that some people might ruin this thing for other people... =/
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:27 [#00855313]
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Yep -fortunatley for us, Warp et all seem a little more forward thinking with regard to MP3s and seem to accept that for them at least, it gives exposure and does more good than harm to them. So many people here said they discovered AT/Ae by stumbling on a file on a P2P. Only people/labels I can think of that disagree is Benbecula (label) and Ulrich Schnauss (artist)... both of which I discovered through P2P and subsequently bought records from!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:29 [#00855315]
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I know, it's not the thought of me not being able to pirate music in future that annoys me- it's me not getting to hear the next Boards of Canada or Ulrich Schnauss that winds me up...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-08 15:31 [#00855317]
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Didn't they just cut the price of CDs by a couple of bucks or something? I haven't been paying attention.
Now that probably won't affect me at all, being a Northerner.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-09-08 15:32 [#00855320]
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If you broke into Walmart, you would be stealing HARDWARE... how can you steal music? It's not possible - it's just men in suits out to make a buck.
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uzim
on 2003-09-08 15:33 [#00855323]
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are those mp3 viruses common? (and mac-compatible?)
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-09-08 15:36 [#00855324]
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people's time/effort/work/thought goes into both.
/devil's advocate
i don't at all try to justify the major lables as the good guys at all, because they are certainly money hungry, close-minded, corporate tycoons. but, i also don't try to justify my d/l'ed mp3's as morally superior either.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 16:03 [#00855331]
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mp3's are data files rather than executables therefore i don't see how one could ever be a virus
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:14 [#00855334]
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Ark-shully there was a problem with Winamp where the id3 tags could cause a buffer overflow - that means if you stuck long enough crap into those fields you could overflow into an executable area of memory and like do shit.
I don't think the flaw was ever exploited though...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:14 [#00855335]
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Oh and the problem was fixed yonks ago so if you're running the latest winamp no probs.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:24 [#00855338]
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I will never buy another product from an RIAA affiliated label. They can kiss my pink unholy mousie holie.
On the other hand I plan to buy lots of stuff from smaller labels like Tomlab, Carpark, Mu, Skam et cetera.
Here is a list of labels not to buy from. Stand on their necks until they pass out.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-09-08 16:28 [#00855341]
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How can they track you from your Soul Seek/Kazaa name then? Can they get your IP address somehow? Then track your location from that?
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-08 16:33 [#00855345]
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It's like the "tree falling in the woods" question. Music only exists when there is somebody there to hear it. In the void of space, there is no medium to transmit soundwaves. so in space, does music even exist?
The Mp3 is music encoded into raw data. without a decoder, the mp3 is not music.
if you make available mp3's for others to download, how is your action any different than Sony or Magnavox or Intel making available the technology to decode and listen to mp3's? By sharing files, you are only one link in a chain of participants that made sharing possible.
Even more frustrating is that companies like Sony are making money off of people "stealing" their own product. Sony makes and sells the tools to steal music that they produce. But what do they have to gain by doing this? exposure deffinately.
I think it comes down to marketing. The fact is, taking advantage of filesharing would mean record companies would have to totally rework and reconfigure their marketing strategy. This would take time and most importantly it would take money. It is much easier to make a few idle threats and try to discourage the inevitable change that someday they will be forced to accept.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:42 [#00855353]
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Even more frustrating is that companies like Sony are making money off of people "stealing" their own product. Sony makes and sells the tools to steal music that they produce. But what do they have to gain by doing this? exposure deffinately.
That's an interesting point! A company as large as Sony can afford to have losses in one sector subsidized by profits in another. God knows Micrososft's been playing that game for long enough...
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uzim
on 2003-09-08 17:16 [#00855380]
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fleetmouse > is there a list of labels you can buy from? that would be easier....
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:02 [#00855403]
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Record sales are down because major record companies are releasing SHIT music that NOBODY WANTS.
They hate mp3 sharing because it allows the user to preview the entire album, then the user realizes that only 1 decent song is on the album, so they dont have to buy the album and they just keep that one song. Big record companies dont want you to preview, they just want you to buy the entire thing for that one song.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:03 [#00855404]
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And for all you people who have decided to no longer share your files because of this - You are doing exactly what THEY want you to do. Stand up for what you believe in for Christs sake. Stop playing into their fucking fear tactics.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:09 [#00855408]
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Probably most of the stuff you like is non-RIAA anyways.
I had a link to a site that let you conduct searches to find out if bands and labels are riaa safe but it seems to be down at the moment :: ominous music ::
weatheredstoner -> I stopped sharing because slsk was fucking up my ASIO latency but I'll be sharing later, username fleetmouse
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:14 [#00855413]
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yeah, i kinda figured you wouldn't back out because the RIAA is scaring you.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:16 [#00855414]
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It helps to be Canadian cause they let us get away with more stuff cause we have to live in the still-warm bodies of hollowed out elks.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-09-08 18:32 [#00855421]
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I've got a link to a site that says elves and goblins are real... Do you want me to pass it on to you for your *FACT* bookmarks?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:45 [#00855427]
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I'm sure your collection of fairy bookmarks is most comprehensive.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-09-08 18:49 [#00855429]
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Are you trying to say fairys don't exist?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:56 [#00855431]
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I know there's a brain fairy, and I hope he left you a nice shiny quarter.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-09-08 18:59 [#00855433]
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'quarter' you pathetic idiot. Your currency is worthless, toy money. There's some nice bits of canada, where exactly are you from? are you lonely?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 19:08 [#00855439]
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You're always trying to find stuff out about me
WHO IS YOUR DADDY AND WHAT DOES HE DO
It's like geting snuffled by a crotch-hound
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-09-08 19:14 [#00855441]
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How do you know that? Do you let stray canadian dogs sniff your miniature crotch? You must do, to be sincere with that comparison, or were you talking bullshit again? If you're ashamed of where you are from it's okay....it's sad, but it's okay.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 19:15 [#00855443]
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now you have to cover it in cheese sauce and eat it
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-08 19:21 [#00855445]
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hey jivver when you're not busy sending fleetmouse love letters you might want to check some emails from paula and i about a month ago, some important stuff has happened. if you've read them then your silence is frankly baffling.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-09-08 19:21 [#00855446]
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I'm sorry, you are annoying though. I'll ignore you from now on, you're probably 12. G'night!
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