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offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 12:25 [#00855153]
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/08/music.downloa...


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-09-08 12:26 [#00855156]
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*erases slsk folder


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:32 [#00855162]
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that's their master plan? what a fucking joke.


 

offline Phobiazero from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 12:33 [#00855163]
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it's hillarious


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-09-08 12:34 [#00855165]
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i figured it was only a matter of time. slsk has gotten
progressively worse since the RIAA came down on peepz.

i'm sure that record companies are putting pressure on the
RIAA to do something due to declining sales. =/


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-09-08 12:35 [#00855167]
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that thing about promising not to share files sounds like
something they do in kindergarten


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:36 [#00855168]
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that's what i was saying.

that's the best they could come up with? sad.


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-08 12:36 [#00855169]
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the mp3 virus is their true answer, i say


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-09-08 12:38 [#00855170]
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they claim cd sales went down but in england sales are up by
30% (approx) on last year thats according to the bbc last
month (i forgot to post the article)


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-09-08 12:47 [#00855184]
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but thanks for sharing, phob. good to know.


 

offline atgmartin from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-09-08 13:29 [#00855231]
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Hey everyone! I want to download some music. Everyone
email me your slsk user names at
atgmartin.mole4RIAA@shit-holes.com


 

offline scup_bucket from bloated exploding piss pockets on 2003-09-08 13:30 [#00855232]
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i thought the riaa was targetting kazaa mainly


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-09-08 13:30 [#00855233]
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lol :)


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-08 14:59 [#00855290]
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hmmm let's do some math:

261 people sued / 60,000,000 people sharing files = .000435%
chance (roughly 1 in 230,000) of being sued by RIAA
representatives.

i like those odds, personally.



 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-08 15:02 [#00855291]
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I thought there were about 35 million, but even so:

35,000,000/50 lawsuits per day=700,000 days= 1917 years to
get everyone at that rate.

HA HAH!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:05 [#00855293]
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Even if they managed a crackdown on P2P networks like kazaa
they'd never stop file sharing... people would just resort
to private systems like Elusive's FTP etc.

Rephlex have the right idea with some of their releases... I
just bought a record today (new Bogdan) because they had
made it freely available to DL, I liked it and now I've
bought it. Would I have bought it if those mp3s weren't
there? Probably not, unless I had DLed it from SS.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-09-08 15:13 [#00855296]
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*also stops sharing on SS*


 

offline drummond from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-09-08 15:19 [#00855300]
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paranoia....


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-09-08 15:19 [#00855301]
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[flameworthy comment]

i can't believe they are getting mad at people for stealing
and re-distributing music.

*breaks into wal-mart*

*steals 40,000 CDs*

*gets mad at police for arresting me*

[/flameworthy comment]


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-09-08 15:23 [#00855308]
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I don't worry because I own the majority of the music on my
computer. Also, anything I don't own I don't think
belongs to the RIAA's companies (BMI, Warner, Sony, etc.)


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-09-08 15:26 [#00855311]
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well... the technology (mp3 and similar) is never the
problem...
The problem is when it's abused, like it is today by many
many people.
That's what sucks so much; that some people might ruin this
thing for other people... =/


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:27 [#00855313]
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Yep -fortunatley for us, Warp et all seem a little more
forward thinking with regard to MP3s and seem to accept that
for them at least, it gives exposure and does more good than
harm to them. So many people here said they discovered AT/Ae
by stumbling on a file on a P2P. Only people/labels I can
think of that disagree is Benbecula (label) and Ulrich
Schnauss (artist)... both of which I discovered through P2P
and subsequently bought records from!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-09-08 15:29 [#00855315]
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I know, it's not the thought of me not being able to pirate
music in future that annoys me- it's me not getting to hear
the next Boards of Canada or Ulrich Schnauss that winds me
up...



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-09-08 15:31 [#00855317]
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Didn't they just cut the price of CDs by a couple of bucks
or something? I haven't been paying attention.

Now that probably won't affect me at all, being a
Northerner.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-09-08 15:32 [#00855320]
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If you broke into Walmart, you would be stealing HARDWARE...
how can you steal music? It's not possible - it's
just men in suits out to make a buck.


 

offline uzim on 2003-09-08 15:33 [#00855323]
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are those mp3 viruses common?
(and mac-compatible?)


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-09-08 15:36 [#00855324]
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people's time/effort/work/thought goes into both.

/devil's advocate

i don't at all try to justify the major lables as the good
guys at all, because they are certainly money hungry,
close-minded, corporate tycoons. but, i also don't try to
justify my d/l'ed mp3's as morally superior either.


 

offline Loogie from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-09-08 16:03 [#00855331]
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mp3's are data files rather than executables therefore i
don't see how one could ever be a virus


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:14 [#00855334]
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Ark-shully there was a problem with Winamp where the id3
tags could cause a buffer overflow - that means if you stuck
long enough crap into those fields you could overflow into
an executable area of memory and like do shit.

I don't think the flaw was ever exploited though...


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:14 [#00855335]
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Oh and the problem was fixed yonks ago so if you're running
the latest winamp no probs.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:24 [#00855338]
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I will never buy another product from an RIAA affiliated
label. They can kiss my pink unholy mousie holie.

On the other hand I plan to buy lots of stuff from smaller
labels like Tomlab, Carpark, Mu, Skam et cetera.

Here is a list of labels not to buy from. Stand on their
necks until they pass out.



 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-09-08 16:28 [#00855341]
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How can they track you from your Soul Seek/Kazaa name then?
Can they get your IP address somehow? Then track your
location from that?


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-09-08 16:33 [#00855345]
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It's like the "tree falling in the woods" question. Music
only exists when there is somebody there to hear it. In the
void of space, there is no medium to transmit soundwaves.
so in space, does music even exist?
The Mp3 is music encoded into raw data. without a decoder,
the mp3 is not music.

if you make available mp3's for others to download, how is
your action any different than Sony or Magnavox or Intel
making available the technology to decode and listen to
mp3's? By sharing files, you are only one link in a chain
of participants that made sharing possible.

Even more frustrating is that companies like Sony are making
money off of people "stealing" their own product. Sony
makes and sells the tools to steal music that they produce.
But what do they have to gain by doing this? exposure
deffinately.

I think it comes down to marketing. The fact is, taking
advantage of filesharing would mean record companies would
have to totally rework and reconfigure their marketing
strategy. This would take time and most importantly it
would take money. It is much easier to make a few idle
threats and try to discourage the inevitable change that
someday they will be forced to accept.



 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 16:42 [#00855353]
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Even more frustrating is that companies like Sony are
making money off of people "stealing" their own product.
Sony makes and sells the tools to steal music that they
produce. But what do they have to gain by doing this?
exposure deffinately.


That's an interesting point! A company as large as Sony can
afford to have losses in one sector subsidized by profits in
another. God knows Micrososft's been playing that game for
long enough...


 

offline uzim on 2003-09-08 17:16 [#00855380]
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fleetmouse > is there a list of labels you can buy
from? that would be easier....


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:02 [#00855403]
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Record sales are down because major record companies are
releasing SHIT music that NOBODY WANTS.

They hate mp3 sharing because it allows the user to preview
the entire album, then the user realizes that only 1 decent
song is on the album, so they dont have to buy the album and
they just keep that one song. Big record companies dont want
you to preview, they just want you to buy the entire thing
for that one song.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:03 [#00855404]
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And for all you people who have decided to no longer share
your files because of this - You are doing exactly what THEY
want you to do. Stand up for what you believe in for Christs
sake. Stop playing into their fucking fear tactics.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:09 [#00855408]
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Probably most of the stuff you like is non-RIAA anyways.

I had a link to a site that let you conduct searches to find
out if bands and labels are riaa safe but it seems to be
down at the moment :: ominous music ::

weatheredstoner -> I stopped sharing because slsk was
fucking up my ASIO latency but I'll be sharing later,
username fleetmouse


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-09-08 18:14 [#00855413]
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yeah, i kinda figured you wouldn't back out because the RIAA
is scaring you.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:16 [#00855414]
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It helps to be Canadian cause they let us get away with more
stuff cause we have to live in the still-warm bodies of
hollowed out elks.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-09-08 18:32 [#00855421]
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I've got a link to a site that says elves and goblins are
real... Do you want me to pass it on to you for your *FACT*
bookmarks?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:45 [#00855427]
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I'm sure your collection of fairy bookmarks is most
comprehensive.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-09-08 18:49 [#00855429]
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Are you trying to say fairys don't exist?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 18:56 [#00855431]
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I know there's a brain fairy, and I hope he left you a nice
shiny quarter.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-09-08 18:59 [#00855433]
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'quarter' you pathetic idiot. Your currency is worthless,
toy money. There's some nice bits of canada, where exactly
are you from? are you lonely?


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 19:08 [#00855439]
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You're always trying to find stuff out about me

WHO IS YOUR DADDY AND WHAT DOES HE DO

It's like geting snuffled by a crotch-hound


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-09-08 19:14 [#00855441]
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How do you know that? Do you let stray canadian dogs sniff
your miniature crotch? You must do, to be sincere with that
comparison, or were you talking bullshit again? If you're
ashamed of where you are from it's okay....it's sad, but
it's okay.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-09-08 19:15 [#00855443]
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now you have to cover it in cheese sauce and eat it


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-09-08 19:21 [#00855445]
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hey jivver when you're not busy sending fleetmouse love
letters you might want to check some emails from paula and i
about a month ago, some important stuff has happened. if
you've read them then your silence is frankly baffling.


 

offline JivverDicker from my house on 2003-09-08 19:21 [#00855446]
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I'm sorry, you are annoying though. I'll ignore you from
now on, you're probably 12. G'night!


 


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