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offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 14:53 [#00836172]
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Do you think it would take longer for a manned spacecraft
to get to mars from earth than it would an unmanned
spacecraft? Because they're saying it took the 2001 Mars
Odyssey 8 months to get there, but in the movie Mission to
Mars it took them like 2 years ...


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-25 14:56 [#00836177]
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I have no idea.


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-25 14:57 [#00836178]
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putting humans in a spacecraft complicates matters a good
bit.

adds a schload of weight for life support. adds a schload
of bulk for living quarters. and, most of the time you have
to be concerned with how to get them back.

so, i'd give your question a definate maybe as an answer.


 

offline danbrusca from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-25 14:58 [#00836181]
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All depends on when you go and the route you take.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-25 14:58 [#00836182]
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One is a movie.


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 15:09 [#00836191]
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So the added weight is only a problem from a launching from
earth standpoint though, right? if both started in space,
would the weight be an issue?


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-25 15:15 [#00836195]
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Yes.


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 15:39 [#00836200]
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Anus, you're about as helpful as i am :(


 

offline steve from chicago on 2003-08-25 15:54 [#00836210]
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The answer is simple. Just borrow the device from Honey I
Shrunk The Kids and that will solve any weight issues.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-25 15:58 [#00836213]
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weight isn't an isue in space

is a fuckwagon like a whorehouse on wheels?


 

offline warpphex from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-25 16:02 [#00836215]
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If you flicked an object into space and it didnt bang into
anything it would accelerate to a phonominal speed over many
zillions of years .

But this infomation is about as much use as a chocolate fire
guard.


 

offline xceque on 2003-08-25 16:02 [#00836216]
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The day after tomorrow (on 27th August 2003), at 9:51am
(GMT) Mars will be the closest it's been to Earth since
57617BC. It could take mere months to get there.


 

offline Asche XL on 2003-08-25 16:03 [#00836217]
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We better get to it then.


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:04 [#00836218]
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dude what if we crashed into mars


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:04 [#00836219]
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mars is already looking all swollen and bulbous in the sky.
it's gross. i wish it would go away.


 

offline xceque on 2003-08-25 16:04 [#00836220]
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Then we'd probably all die.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-25 16:05 [#00836221]
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trust your airbag


 

offline xceque on 2003-08-25 16:05 [#00836222]
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But at 56,000,000km away at it's closest, I think we'll be
fairly safe.


 

offline Skink from A cesspool in eden on 2003-08-25 16:06 [#00836223]
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i'm sure i heard that it would take 7 years for a manned
spage craft to get there.


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:11 [#00836226]
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which movie was better, mission to mars or red planet? or
mars attacks.... or total recall?


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-25 16:23 [#00836246]
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there is no 'weight' in space,
but mass is still an issue.
like the difference of trying to propel
a golf ball
or
a bowling ball
which one will go further with the same amount of force?


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:31 [#00836258]
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mappatazee--- ahhhh thanks that makes sense to me now.


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2003-08-25 17:20 [#00836311]
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Space Tourism will kick off any real space activity on Mars.
Its probably crackpot stuff but I recall reading somewhere
that they reckon a team could set up a human camp on Mars
for $3b or was it $30b? Probably the later.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-25 17:25 [#00836315]
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mars is nearer to the earth now than it has been in the last
60,000 years. it should be really obvious in the sky, a
constant reddish light close to the horizon.


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2003-08-25 17:27 [#00836316]
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Can you see it with a pair of binoculars?


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-25 17:28 [#00836320]
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It can be seen with the naked eye. It being to brightest
opject in the night sky (next to the moon).


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-25 17:32 [#00836327]
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yeah, it's something like 3 or 4 times closer


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-25 17:35 [#00836340]
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Official statistics:
On 7:51 PM Wednesday:
Closest it's been for 59,619 years,
at 55,758,006 miles distant,
as opposed to an average distance of 225 million miles.


 

offline Anus_Presley on 2003-08-25 17:40 [#00836351]
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Arre you planning a day out to Mars like and wonderring if
big Uncle Joe will fit in the space crraft without weighing
it down?


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-25 17:43 [#00836354]
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i'll go. Whos driving?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-25 18:20 [#00836388]
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i'm gonna send him to outta space to find anotha race


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-25 18:36 [#00836396]
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I will take your brain to another dimension.


 

offline xceque on 2003-08-25 18:42 [#00836408]
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Lucifer son of de morning, I'm gonna chase you outta eart


 

offline xceque on 2003-08-25 18:45 [#00836414]
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I'm gonna put on a iron shirt and chase the devil outta eart


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-26 09:37 [#00837104]
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Do you think the apocalypse is upon us, if mars is so close?


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-08-26 09:40 [#00837112]
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most certainly


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-08-26 10:49 [#00837197]
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I'm still not convinced man's walked on the moon yet...
Radiation issues about going out the Van-Adam's Belt (or
something like that!), 2km of water that protects us from
direct sun's raditation.
I dunno? I've always been sus about those NASA films too -
Some of those camera angles are a little funny - And no
stars in the sky? I'm sure you've all read the conspiracy
theories...


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-26 12:35 [#00837307]
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woahhhhh..... do you have any links, J?


 

offline nlogax from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-26 12:41 [#00837313]
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conspiracy; better known as paranoia


 

offline Fuckwagon from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-26 14:26 [#00837439]
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man it's been raining for two days, i hope my mars watching
party doesnt get rained out.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-26 14:51 [#00837473]
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Morton: "ladies and people, i'm gonna fly to the sun with
my own handmade rocket"


Crowd: "that's not possible idiot, it's too damn hot
there, you'll burn!!"


Morton: "well..

Morton: "well, i'll fly at night then!


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-08-27 21:00 [#00839641]
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i can't see nuttin' as it's cloudy out.....it better clear
up QUICKLY!!!!

MARK AUGUST 27th ON YOUR CALENDAR MARS WILL APPEAR AS BIG AS
THE MOON! FIRST TIME IN AT LEAST 5,000 YEARS!

Never again in your lifetime will the Red Planet be so
spectacular!

This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars, an
encounter that will culminate in the closest approach
between the two planets in recorded history. The next time
Mars may come this close is in 2287. Due to the way
Jupiter’s gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs its orbit,
astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come this
close to Earth in the last 5,000 years but it may be as long
as 60,000 years.

On August 27, Mars will come within 34,649,589 miles and
will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in the night
sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9 and will appear
25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power magnification
Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye.
Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August, Mars
will rise in the east at 10 p.m. and reach its azimuth at
about 3 a.m. But by the end of August when the two planets
are closest, Mars will rise at nightfall and reach its
highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m. That's pretty
convenient when it comes to seeing something that no human
has seen in recorded history. So mark your calendar at the
beginning of August to see Mars grow progressively brighter
and brighter throughout the month.

enjoy all you spacey peepz! =0)


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-27 22:35 [#00839690]
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PAY CLOSE ATTENTION


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-08-27 23:07 [#00839694]
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about going to mars. It is still an 8month ordeal for man
or machine.

The main problem is this: To go faster you need more fuel,
and to carry more fuel you need more thrust, more thrust =
more weight........etc etc.

there is a fine line then, especially when operating from
Earth. Now if we launched from the moon, got supplies up
there, and then used it as a hub, with it's 4/5ths gravity,
it takes much less to get you on your way. It is more
efficent, so more space for food and people, etc.

It still costs $10,000 to lift one pound into orbit. Get
that down to $1,000 and we can do things efficently.


 

offline Hiller_ from Tornio (Finland) on 2003-08-27 23:58 [#00839719]
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I hope this human civilization of shit don't go to mars just
to fuck it up.

We should stay in our own planet of
war and madman goverments.


 

offline BlatantEcho from All over (United States) on 2003-08-28 09:50 [#00840264]
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for the human race to survive in any form, it needs to leap
off of just one planet, and possibly out of hit solar
system, although that brings a whole HOST of problems
otherwise.......



 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-08-28 10:48 [#00840343]
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kabOOm


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-08-28 11:08 [#00840367]
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solar radiation,space debris,an ancient superceded
powersource plus fragile, fallible and expensive equipment
make this one a no-go.


 

offline J Swift from United Kingdom on 2003-08-28 11:49 [#00840410]
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I haven't read much about it on the net... will have a look
for some links though, I'm sure it's fairly well covered!
It is a classic conspiracy theory, but after seeing quite a
few documentaries I am fairly convinced there was something
fishey going on at least...
One of the most noticable things is the camera angles -
There are panning and zooming shots (like the classic one of
the pod thing taking off again) when there would be no one
around to opperate the camera - Unless they left a camera
man on the moon!
There are other real obvious problems, like the american
flag blowing in the wind when it's planted - You should see
what a flag looks like in a vacum! Nothing like that
anyway...
There's also areas in Area 51 that have crators and hills
that look man made and MAY have been the film set...
Also, James Bond's Diamonds are Forever has a sneaky scene
that many people don't notice - In the desert, filming a
fake moon walk... There's even a comment made just before
about not haveing "radiation shields", (made by some
scientist, you wouldn't normally think anything of it), but
apparently to protect astronauts from direct radiation from
the sun you'd need a few feet of lead protection...
I have seen many other flaws in various photos and film
footage... There's LOTS of lighting issues to do with the
kind of lighting you'd get on the moon - Apparently anything
in any kind of a shadow should be pitch black and freezing
because on no atmosphere or ambient lighting atall... yet
this isn't the case on the films...
I dunno, I don't normally buy into these conspiracy things!


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-04 11:25 [#00849794]
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I have no idea.


 


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