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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 14:53 [#00836172]
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Do you think it would take longer for a manned spacecraft to get to mars from earth than it would an unmanned spacecraft? Because they're saying it took the 2001 Mars Odyssey 8 months to get there, but in the movie Mission to Mars it took them like 2 years ...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-25 14:56 [#00836177]
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I have no idea.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-08-25 14:57 [#00836178]
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putting humans in a spacecraft complicates matters a good bit.
adds a schload of weight for life support. adds a schload of bulk for living quarters. and, most of the time you have to be concerned with how to get them back.
so, i'd give your question a definate maybe as an answer.
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-25 14:58 [#00836181]
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All depends on when you go and the route you take.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-25 14:58 [#00836182]
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One is a movie.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 15:09 [#00836191]
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So the added weight is only a problem from a launching from earth standpoint though, right? if both started in space, would the weight be an issue?
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-25 15:15 [#00836195]
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Yes.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 15:39 [#00836200]
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Anus, you're about as helpful as i am :(
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steve
from chicago on 2003-08-25 15:54 [#00836210]
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The answer is simple. Just borrow the device from Honey I Shrunk The Kids and that will solve any weight issues.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-25 15:58 [#00836213]
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weight isn't an isue in space
is a fuckwagon like a whorehouse on wheels?
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-25 16:02 [#00836215]
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If you flicked an object into space and it didnt bang into anything it would accelerate to a phonominal speed over many zillions of years .
But this infomation is about as much use as a chocolate fire guard.
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xceque
on 2003-08-25 16:02 [#00836216]
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The day after tomorrow (on 27th August 2003), at 9:51am (GMT) Mars will be the closest it's been to Earth since 57617BC. It could take mere months to get there.
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Asche XL
on 2003-08-25 16:03 [#00836217]
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We better get to it then.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:04 [#00836218]
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dude what if we crashed into mars
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:04 [#00836219]
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mars is already looking all swollen and bulbous in the sky. it's gross. i wish it would go away.
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xceque
on 2003-08-25 16:04 [#00836220]
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Then we'd probably all die.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-25 16:05 [#00836221]
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trust your airbag
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xceque
on 2003-08-25 16:05 [#00836222]
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But at 56,000,000km away at it's closest, I think we'll be fairly safe.
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-08-25 16:06 [#00836223]
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i'm sure i heard that it would take 7 years for a manned spage craft to get there.
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:11 [#00836226]
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which movie was better, mission to mars or red planet? or mars attacks.... or total recall?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-25 16:23 [#00836246]
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there is no 'weight' in space, but mass is still an issue. like the difference of trying to propel a golf ball or a bowling ball which one will go further with the same amount of force?
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-25 16:31 [#00836258]
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mappatazee--- ahhhh thanks that makes sense to me now.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-25 17:20 [#00836311]
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Space Tourism will kick off any real space activity on Mars. Its probably crackpot stuff but I recall reading somewhere that they reckon a team could set up a human camp on Mars for $3b or was it $30b? Probably the later.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-25 17:25 [#00836315]
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mars is nearer to the earth now than it has been in the last 60,000 years. it should be really obvious in the sky, a constant reddish light close to the horizon.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-25 17:27 [#00836316]
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Can you see it with a pair of binoculars?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-25 17:28 [#00836320]
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It can be seen with the naked eye. It being to brightest opject in the night sky (next to the moon).
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-25 17:32 [#00836327]
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yeah, it's something like 3 or 4 times closer
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-25 17:35 [#00836340]
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Official statistics: On 7:51 PM Wednesday: Closest it's been for 59,619 years, at 55,758,006 miles distant, as opposed to an average distance of 225 million miles.
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-25 17:40 [#00836351]
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Arre you planning a day out to Mars like and wonderring if big Uncle Joe will fit in the space crraft without weighing it down?
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-25 17:43 [#00836354]
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i'll go. Whos driving?
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-25 18:20 [#00836388]
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i'm gonna send him to outta space to find anotha race
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-25 18:36 [#00836396]
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I will take your brain to another dimension.
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xceque
on 2003-08-25 18:42 [#00836408]
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Lucifer son of de morning, I'm gonna chase you outta eart
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xceque
on 2003-08-25 18:45 [#00836414]
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I'm gonna put on a iron shirt and chase the devil outta eart
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-26 09:37 [#00837104]
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Do you think the apocalypse is upon us, if mars is so close?
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-08-26 09:40 [#00837112]
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most certainly
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-26 10:49 [#00837197]
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I'm still not convinced man's walked on the moon yet... Radiation issues about going out the Van-Adam's Belt (or something like that!), 2km of water that protects us from direct sun's raditation.
I dunno? I've always been sus about those NASA films too - Some of those camera angles are a little funny - And no stars in the sky? I'm sure you've all read the conspiracy theories...
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-26 12:35 [#00837307]
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woahhhhh..... do you have any links, J?
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-08-26 12:41 [#00837313]
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conspiracy; better known as paranoia
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Fuckwagon
from Dallas (United States) on 2003-08-26 14:26 [#00837439]
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man it's been raining for two days, i hope my mars watching party doesnt get rained out.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-26 14:51 [#00837473]
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Morton: "ladies and people, i'm gonna fly to the sun with my own handmade rocket"
Crowd: "that's not possible idiot, it's too damn hot there, you'll burn!!"
Morton: "well.. Morton: "well, i'll fly at night then!
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-08-27 21:00 [#00839641]
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i can't see nuttin' as it's cloudy out.....it better clear up QUICKLY!!!!
MARK AUGUST 27th ON YOUR CALENDAR MARS WILL APPEAR AS BIG AS THE MOON! FIRST TIME IN AT LEAST 5,000 YEARS!
Never again in your lifetime will the Red Planet be so spectacular!
This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars, an encounter that will culminate in the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287. Due to the way Jupiter’s gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs its orbit, astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to Earth in the last 5,000 years but it may be as long as 60,000 years.
On August 27, Mars will come within 34,649,589 miles and will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9 and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power magnification Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August, Mars will rise in the east at 10 p.m. and reach its azimuth at about 3 a.m. But by the end of August when the two planets are closest, Mars will rise at nightfall and reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m. That's pretty convenient when it comes to seeing something that no human has seen in recorded history. So mark your calendar at the beginning of August to see Mars grow progressively brighter and brighter throughout the month.
enjoy all you spacey peepz! =0)
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-27 22:35 [#00839690]
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PAY CLOSE ATTENTION
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-08-27 23:07 [#00839694]
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about going to mars. It is still an 8month ordeal for man or machine.
The main problem is this: To go faster you need more fuel, and to carry more fuel you need more thrust, more thrust = more weight........etc etc.
there is a fine line then, especially when operating from Earth. Now if we launched from the moon, got supplies up there, and then used it as a hub, with it's 4/5ths gravity, it takes much less to get you on your way. It is more efficent, so more space for food and people, etc.
It still costs $10,000 to lift one pound into orbit. Get that down to $1,000 and we can do things efficently.
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Hiller_
from Tornio (Finland) on 2003-08-27 23:58 [#00839719]
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I hope this human civilization of shit don't go to mars just to fuck it up.
We should stay in our own planet of war and madman goverments.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-08-28 09:50 [#00840264]
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for the human race to survive in any form, it needs to leap off of just one planet, and possibly out of hit solar system, although that brings a whole HOST of problems otherwise.......
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2003-08-28 10:48 [#00840343]
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-08-28 11:08 [#00840367]
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solar radiation,space debris,an ancient superceded powersource plus fragile, fallible and expensive equipment make this one a no-go.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-28 11:49 [#00840410]
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I haven't read much about it on the net... will have a look for some links though, I'm sure it's fairly well covered!
It is a classic conspiracy theory, but after seeing quite a few documentaries I am fairly convinced there was something fishey going on at least...
One of the most noticable things is the camera angles - There are panning and zooming shots (like the classic one of the pod thing taking off again) when there would be no one around to opperate the camera - Unless they left a camera man on the moon!
There are other real obvious problems, like the american flag blowing in the wind when it's planted - You should see what a flag looks like in a vacum! Nothing like that anyway...
There's also areas in Area 51 that have crators and hills that look man made and MAY have been the film set...
Also, James Bond's Diamonds are Forever has a sneaky scene that many people don't notice - In the desert, filming a fake moon walk... There's even a comment made just before about not haveing "radiation shields", (made by some scientist, you wouldn't normally think anything of it), but apparently to protect astronauts from direct radiation from the sun you'd need a few feet of lead protection...
I have seen many other flaws in various photos and film footage... There's LOTS of lighting issues to do with the kind of lighting you'd get on the moon - Apparently anything in any kind of a shadow should be pitch black and freezing because on no atmosphere or ambient lighting atall... yet this isn't the case on the films...
I dunno, I don't normally buy into these conspiracy things!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-09-04 11:25 [#00849794]
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I have no idea.
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