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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-08-22 05:32 [#00832433]
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sobigf bug report from sky news:
A crippling computer virus is crashing email networks around the world.
One in 17 emails now has the SoBig.F bug - which threatens to slow the internet to a crawl.
The SoBig virus spreads when computer users open file attachments in emails that contain such familiar headings as "Thank you", "Re: Details" or "Re: approved".
Once the file is opened, SoBig, which first appeared on Monday, scours the computer for email addresses, checking in Word documents, Internet logs and email inboxes.
Designed like mass-mailing spam programmes, it then sends scores of messages to the addresses it has collected.
MessageLabs, a British-based Internet security firm, said one in 17 emails sent around the world since Monday had been affected by SoBig.
Messagelabs' chief information analyst Paul Wood said it was feared that it could increase global email traffic by as much as 60 percent, slowing the Internet to a crawl.
"It's unprecedented in our history. We stopped over one million (infections) in the first day," he said.
"It's a pretty frightening statistic. And the next incarnation could be even worse."
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-22 05:34 [#00832436]
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i don't want that virus
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-22 05:36 [#00832437]
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yes, it'll get even worse this weekend.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-08-22 05:38 [#00832440]
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that virus sucks ass
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-22 05:38 [#00832441]
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why's that?
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xceque
on 2003-08-22 05:38 [#00832442]
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I've had about 800 of these across my various email addresses. The xltronic email alone has had at least 200/300 of the buggers. Been infected 0 times. Hurrah for paranoia!
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-08-22 05:38 [#00832445]
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so does this men it will be like using a dial up agian to those with broadband
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-08-22 05:39 [#00832447]
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I don't understand... Why the fuck would 1337 h4x0rzZ want to destroy the Internet ? It's their home, their only reason to live !
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-08-22 05:40 [#00832450]
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Why do people create these viruses? (I'm not being rhetorical)
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xceque
on 2003-08-22 05:41 [#00832452]
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Cos they're spackas
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-22 05:48 [#00832453]
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the virus experts have predicted a mass-storm of the Sobig.F worm during the upcoming weekend. Sobig.F was just recently upgraded to level 4 alert.
luckily the worm is harmless and does not damage your system (apart from the heavy traffic it does generate).
please...if only the companies would turn off the "autoreply: you have virus" feature on their mailservers. the sender is not necessary infected, and the amount of traffic increases even more.
the worm will terminate on september 10th and from this date onwards it won't spread.
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-08-22 05:53 [#00832456]
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I knew this kid who did a computer course with me and who wanted to specialise in computer security so he could hack into other peoples' computers.
He was my friend but I told him that he was a dick for wanting to do that shit.
He used the excuse "Oh man, but hackers are useful! Society needs them! They test security on government sites etc and when they get in the government knows they need to upgrade!"
BUT if we didn't have hackers, we wouldn't need this kind of security. and they don't just break in, they ruin everything.
Same with viruses. WHY?
I'd like to have 5 mins alone with the skinny little pale-ass nerd shit who created that poza msblast virus that's been plaguing my workplace, I guarantee I'd beat the living shit out of his pussy ass in liek 30 seconds.
Wankers.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-08-22 05:58 [#00832458]
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agreed on the why and beating the crap out of
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-08-22 05:59 [#00832459]
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"BUT if we didn't have hackers, we wouldn't need this kind of security. and they don't just break in, they ruin everything."
I think you're confusing hackers with crackers. Hackers just test the security and notify you when something is not right and don't destroy stuff
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-22 06:00 [#00832461]
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thats actually a misconception also
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-22 06:02 [#00832464]
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i have big respect to the oldskool hackers and phreakers from the mid80-mid90. their knowledge and intelligence were just fantastic. they shouldn't be put in the same pigonehole as crackers, who intentionally destroys systems and messes up things.
hwoever, today it's very easy to destroy systems - simply download a software from the net and hit "run". kiddies still with the lack of pubhair, sometimes have fun with this type applications.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-22 06:03 [#00832465]
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you almost beat me to it :)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-22 06:03 [#00832466]
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I'd go nuts hardcore crazy punch up if someone sent me an e-mail that deleted everything, this virus doesn't even DO anything, imagine if it did, there would be worldwide chaos
maybe we should get virus filters, just like spam filters on some peoples isp's
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-22 06:05 [#00832469]
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script kiddies are a big problem - especially considering how easy it is to pick up a port scanner and winnuke nowadays
crackers and hackers arent the bad and good of computer security - crackers deal with software, operating systems, and file manipulation and "cracking" (altering them to do a specific task - whereas hackers deal with computer security and networks.
there are good and bad people in each of these categories.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-22 06:06 [#00832470]
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most of the ISP's hopefully run AV-software on the mailservers already.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-22 06:08 [#00832475]
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so you mean hackers are not into operating systems and software? i beg to disagree about that. :)
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-22 06:13 [#00832477]
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the difference between "oldskool" hackers and "script kiddies" is like the difference between "graffiti artists" and "bombers/taggers",
one I want to shake their hand, and the other I want to break it
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-22 06:14 [#00832480]
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well - thats not exactly what i mean - but dealing with changing software and operating systems is considered "Cracking" because you are altering the programs - hacking and cracking are just actions that are performed - and hackers, crackers, and even phreakers dont need to be divided into groups - its the actions that are classified seperately
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-08-22 06:18 [#00832485]
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but i digress - im going to go shower - ill continue this thread when i return
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-08-22 06:20 [#00832488]
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Yeah I don't know the finer points about crackers/hackers. You guys know what I mean though. I want to beat the shit out of people who ruin shit.
I saw a docoi on theoldschool hackers, they really brought computers into their own. Obviously I don't really wanna beat up on them.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-22 06:25 [#00832491]
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bombers/taggers are graffiti artists.
there are 'script kiddies' with as much knowledge as 'oldschool hackers'.
please dont generalise, based on your opinion and views on certain people.
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2003-08-22 06:29 [#00832492]
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why do people always have to open attachments anyway
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-22 06:30 [#00832493]
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a kid who writes his name/nick on a wall is NOT an artists,
a kid who uses a pre made program to hack someone else computer a hacker
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-22 06:33 [#00832495]
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oh crap...
a kid who uses a pre made program to hack someone elses computer is not a hacker
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-22 07:40 [#00832585]
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"a kid who writes his name/nick on a wall is NOT an artists"
please give me a break. could you look at that statement and claim that this is nothing but a personal opinion? first off, you seem to think every tagger is a 'kid'. i'd very much like to see you walk up to a group of taggers at night and calling them a bunch of antisocial kids. most taggers i know are well above the age of 20 by now and i can asure you, they're just like you and me, with normal jobs, girlfriends and whatnot. also, tagging is a part of the graffiti culture whether you like it or not. its not some stand-alone thing.
there are people who do full colour pieces, and at night they go out bombing. there is also a small group of people that only do tags, to fuck shit up. if they dont have skills, they lose my respect as well.
still, you only see what you wanna see. tell youself what you want to hear.
as for the 'script kiddies', again you seem to think that the people you hate are all kids, who are in one big conspiracy to bug the living crap out of you. has it ever occurred to you that these so called 'pre made' programs, are programmed too? where do you think those come from then?
be mad at the whole world. call everyone you dislike 'annoying kids' then. your views are typical and superficial, because all you can do is generalise.
p.s: just for the record, i agree that hackers/crackers, and some taggers are indeed annoying and unnecessary.
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xceque
on 2003-08-22 07:42 [#00832592]
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Someone who just scribbles their name on a wall definitely is not an artist. They're just defacing... hang on... why the fuck am I arguing about this geek shit? Get a fucking life xceque.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-08-22 07:47 [#00832597]
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Like.......woah.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-08-22 07:50 [#00832601]
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Good point.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-22 07:53 [#00832604]
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whatever you reckon mate
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-22 07:57 [#00832607]
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ok, straight out
I don't like bombers, regardless of whether they CAN do some decent art,
and I don't like destructive hackers, even if they DO know their way around c++ and other crap
someone can attain all the knowledge and skills they want, it doesn't mean a fuck to me unless they try to do something good with it
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-08-22 08:00 [#00832611]
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Well said.
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-08-23 06:16 [#00833655]
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Update
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-08-23 06:24 [#00833665]
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Who would be stupid enough to open some dubious attachment in an email from someone you don't know?! It's a different case if the email opens itself, like with some viruses. I get virus mails regularly from "Mail Delivery Subsystem" with subjects like "Mail unsent", then I see it has an attachment and get I rid of it.
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2003-08-23 07:04 [#00833693]
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ok on the graffiti point, from some one who used to write but doesn't much anymore. graf writers aren't artists, simple as that, why? because they never wanted to be associated with artists and generally the pomp an crap that goes with that, preffer to be called writers not artists because they write their name and in the truest sense a good artist does not necessarily make a good writer it is a completley different thing.
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manifestevil
from Australia on 2003-08-23 07:07 [#00833695]
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oh and that wasn't to hassle anyone..
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nanotech
from Sukavasti Amitaba Pureland (United States) on 2003-08-23 07:11 [#00833697]
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strongbad fan?
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