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offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 14:41 [#00825501]
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I've been on an Autechre kick for about a month now. I
haven't listened to anything BUT autechre.
In an effort to understand them better, I've listened to
every LP numerous times, and read pages and pages of ae
feedback on this forum.

It seems that more than perhaps any other IDM artist, ae's
fanbase is incredibly divided between the best and worst
autechre. I have been searching high and low for a
consistent favourite, but it seems that BECAUSE autechre
consistently release near-perfect albums, the only variation
of a favourite album is that of personal taste.

With µ-ziq it's usually lunatic harness or tango.

With RDJ it's usually drukqs , ICBYD, and the SAWs.

With BOC, it's usually MHTRTC.

WIth autechre, it is literally unpredictable.

I seem to like Amber, Tri-Rep, and LP5. What's your
opinion?


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-17 14:42 [#00825502]
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everybody loves autechre except me


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-17 14:42 [#00825503]
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apparently its because i'm not 'open-minded'


 

offline Diao from Olathe (United States) on 2003-08-17 14:44 [#00825505]
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I love Incunabula and Gantz Graf.


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-08-17 14:44 [#00825506]
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Amber, Confield and Gantz Graf are my favourite autechre
releases


 

offline virginpusher from County Clare on 2003-08-17 14:46 [#00825510]
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Confield


 

offline epsy from Afghanistan on 2003-08-17 14:47 [#00825512]
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the reason it's like that is because even the people who say
ep7 is the best listen to confield more a year later and
change their minds etc


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-17 14:48 [#00825517]
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chiastic slide


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-08-17 14:49 [#00825520]
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Amber, Incanabula, Confield


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-17 14:51 [#00825521]
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oh look its another name your favourite autechre album
thread


 

offline Q4Z2X on 2003-08-17 14:55 [#00825532]
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chiastic slide, confield, draft


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-08-17 14:57 [#00825536]
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"LOL"


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:00 [#00825544]
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Interestingly enough, it seems that autechre harbours a more
love/hate relationship with respect to albums than some
other popular IDM artists.

With artists like aphex twin and BOC it generally appears
that all the albums are excellent, and BOC fans prefer one
or two over the others (even though the others are still
very good).

I've heard absolute extremism with autechre. I've heard
Tri-Rep called repetitive and borning, I've heard Incunabula
been called irrelevant, I've heard Confield called the
biggest pile of shit in electronic history.

Others revere those same albums, and its quite surprising
how incredibly different our points of view can be with any
given ae album. Perhaps there is much room for
interpretation with each ae album?


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:17 [#00825566]
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What...nobody likes my thread anymore?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-17 15:18 [#00825568]
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i love what ever hasnt been said yet

fuck you


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-17 15:22 [#00825575]
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Since when was Drukqs the favourite RDJ album? I thought it
was generally regarded as... well, RDJ Album. And SAWII.

AE I go with Amber and Tri Repetae.


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-17 15:22 [#00825577]
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Oh and I can't stand RDJ Album, personally.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:24 [#00825578]
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Listen roygbivcore, just because you're mad at the world
doesn't give you the right to take your anger out on others.


You have to deal with this anger by observing your true
nature. There is only peace young grasshopper.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-17 15:25 [#00825580]
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in that case:

i have a disagreement with your parents choice not to have
an abortion


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:25 [#00825581]
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Each thread has its favourites. The RDJ album would fit the
mold too I suppose.



 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:27 [#00825584]
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Yes, you're absolutely right roygbivcore. We should have a
world where only cynical pessimistic bastards exist. Would
that make you happy?


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-17 15:28 [#00825586]
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don't start shit with me and i won't start shit with you.
you broke the rules


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:30 [#00825588]
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chiastic slide! oh.. and tri repetae :D


 

offline eXXailon from purgatory on 2003-08-17 15:33 [#00825590]
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teenage angst....touching


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:38 [#00825594]
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What rules ?

When was it necessary to tell me to fuck off - were you just
trying to be cool? There is no shit to start - I fail to
see what "shit" you might be referring to.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 15:42 [#00825598]
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I think Tri-Rep is the shit personally. It took me at least
15-20 listens before it finally made sense. Before then, I
thought it was mindless and repetitive.


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-17 15:53 [#00825604]
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I never thought it was mindless and repetitive... I thought
it was quite good on first listen, but it lacked that
something special. And did so for a while, so I stopped
listening when I got Amber and LP5 (which I instantly
preferred). The one day I was feeling really shit, had a
cold, had been crying, I think... so I lay back in the bath
and put Tri Repetae on, of all albums, and it just really
clicked. It suddenly had this gorgeous dark, cold
atmospheric feel to it. Now I love it.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-17 15:55 [#00825606]
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i never told you to fuck off


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-08-17 16:47 [#00825649]
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Confield is my favourite album, Gantz Graf and Envane are my
favourite EP's


 

offline ambsace from canaDUH. on 2003-08-17 16:52 [#00825651]
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i love everything autechre's ever done with the exception of
maybe...two or three tracks (and even those i still LIKE,
i'd just usually skip over it to get to the next track which
i REALLY like, you know?), yet i do catch myself listening
to amber, incunabula, and ep7 more often than the others.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-08-17 16:54 [#00825653]
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GET A LIFE DUDE


 

offline nacmat on 2003-08-17 17:09 [#00825658]
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confield, lp5

those who have problems with this thread just stay away from
it, but dont disturb the rest of the people wanting to have
a nice discussion on autechre.

roygbivcore, yes it goes for you (among others)


 

offline mc_303_beatz from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-08-17 17:21 [#00825674]
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Envane and Chiastic Slide are the best things Autechre have
done. Then I'd go for Confield and Incunabula.


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-17 17:32 [#00825691]
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it's so hard trying to pick your favourite
i can almost safely say my favourite ep is envane.
favourite album is either confield or chiastic slide


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 17:40 [#00825698]
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the repetitive parts of autechre are what relaxes me - even
though it might sound like it does the opposite.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-17 17:43 [#00825700]
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i didn't have any problems with this thread, jesus christ

fuck you was directed at me as a joke, i'm sorry you guys
don't understand, i'll try to talk really slow from now on
so no one misunderstands


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 17:44 [#00825701]
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nacmat, you're the nicest guy on this forum.

I know these threads get a little redundant, but I feel the
need to start one when I can't find a thread to address a
question that I have. I know there are many people who
would contribute, and others who would rather tell me how
redundant I'm being.

I apologize for anyone I may have offended - including
roygbivcore.


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-17 17:47 [#00825704]
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You shouldn't use His name in vain. Why are you sounding so
grumpy?

You can talk as slow as you want but nobody will hear you
I'm afraid. You're going to have to type your reply, and
we'll choose how fast we should read your response. ;)


 

offline tallyho from Vladivostok (Russia) on 2003-08-17 18:59 [#00825759]
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as for preferences, my current faves are:

-LP5 - i like the way it's both melodic and cerebral. these
two things are usually hard to balance together, but Ae are
at their best here. as for songs order sequencing, it's
perfect.

-Cichlisuite EP (Krib is one of the loveliest songs...sounds
like an electronic love ballad)
-Garbage EP (hmmmm...)

it's been mentioned alot, anyway i'll be bold enough to say
it again...imo, the main thing about autechre is that you
may like them or not, but they cannot be neglected. well, i
used to think that i'd NEVER end up listening to them, but
it was bound to happen... (never say never ;)
i really appreciate them. when i think what is best
describes their music, these words always come into my mind:
irresistible and addictive...
don't you think so?


 

offline Smyrma from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2003-08-17 19:07 [#00825764]
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Confield and Tri-Repetae

Don't know why, just like 'em.


 

offline atgmartin from DeathMallMegaComplexville (United States) on 2003-08-17 20:33 [#00825818]
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I love every fuckin one of them equally. I'm the biggest
Autechre fan in the world.


 

offline handoverthecart on 2003-08-17 21:34 [#00825856]
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i like confield, draft and envane right now, but it is
always changing.


 

offline oxygenfad from www.oxygenfad.com (Canada) on 2003-08-17 21:51 [#00825871]
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roygbivcore your Avitar is amazing !


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-17 21:56 [#00825875]
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thats why i put it there!


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-08-17 22:00 [#00825881]
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ah, participating in yet another ae disagreement thread.

after confield (i liked two tracks, the first and "uviol")
and gantz graf (more interesting than listenable) i'm not
buying any more new ae. there's just too much more
interesting and pleasing music to discover and enjoy.

on another controversy, i've had tri repetae for eight years
now, and i've grown to believe that it is their weakest
effort. chiastic slide provided the real breakthrough in
style and technique. lp5 was the unparalleled refinement.


despite my opinion of confield, their live performance on
the subsequent tour was absolutely stunning, one of the most
fascinating and overwhelming performances i've ever
witnessed.

zzt


 

offline mashnote from mol (Belgium) on 2003-08-18 01:05 [#00826023]
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i always end up playing chiastic slide more than the others
i have laying around. and i still haven't heard tri-repetae
:(

::shock::


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-08-18 01:46 [#00826039]
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it's very difficult to choose, but
i like chiastic slide best


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-08-18 01:56 [#00826041]
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I like Autechre but soem of their tracks just seem to be too
much like "Hey let's do something that's never been done
before, somethnig WEIRD" which I sposed is one of the mian
underlying concepts of IDM, rather than "hey let's make a
tune that stomps/has lots of emotion"

People will disagree with me, but it's just how I feel.

And yeah if you don't liek Autechre you WILL get people just
dismissing your taste as "not understanding". It happens.


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-08-18 01:59 [#00826042]
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i know i've said this before chiastic slide is my
favorite of their work... and i think that tri Repetae is my
least favorite...... after thinking lp5 was the greatest
albumn of all time.... now i think it's not as great as i
used to...

chiastic slide and confield are the two most solid works...


 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-08-18 02:00 [#00826044]
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i think that ae has the most emontion of any eletronic act
i've heard... that why most of us listen...


 


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