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Mabey it's just me but it seems like IDM music is just not as popular as it was even a year ago. When you just look at the topics on the front page of this board its obvious that no one really cares anymore. I personlly havn't heard any good new IDM albumns in the past year (Mabey draft 7.30 but autechre are giants and not really part of a scene.) wheras last year and early people were dropping recomendations all over the place about obsure stuff. don't get me wrong theres still good music coming out all over........ but cutting egde IDM/electronic...? |
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yeah i feel that |
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i miss the days of windowlicker |
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yeh, i know what you mean. maybe its just having a recession, it happens in a lot of genres, and not only in music. im sure in the future it will be as fruitful again as it has been in the past |
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i think the glory days are over.... the old stuff will now be considered the classics. i think the next logical step, is that IDM will be fused into the mainstream now (as much as possible... AE wont be on Mtv, but elements will begin to cross over) |
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yes of course....good point i'd like to hear more idm with vocals and pop structures |
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that may be true Zeus, but atleast we will still have the classic's to chill to |
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IDM not being 'as popular'... it's about the releases... if there were more interesting releases, there would be more talk about them. HOwever there have been some interesting releases, even this year, µ-ziq's album (which I haven't heard everything from yet!) for one thing. |
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I think they have maybe gone as farr as they can and now everrything that is being done has been done beforre, and betterr. |
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I think it's time for a new breed of electronica artist's, that means us we are the new breed! If you don't want it to die then don't let it happen, too much ground has been broken to let it die. |
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loads of releases coming out this year! it has already! |
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I think there is alot more that we haven't heard yet, so i'm with you on this one. |
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don't think any music was popular as it was a year ago - the ringtones market in the uk has overtaken the singles market - and the dvd market is stronger than the albums market . |
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i wouldn't worry about idm anyway - it's a shite term . try for most of it "musiic done using generic software pluggins that tries to copy the top 4 or 5 warp acts |
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jesus what a load of grannies.. |
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yes... IdM is far from dead. The sound is not old yet, to me, and I think we haven't seen the end of the developing of the genre... there is more to come, I am sure. |
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wow i thought there have been some great releases already! and if you're bored try related genres. the german laptop scene is flourishing these days |
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I'm not bored but if you have any recommendations that would be cool. |
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ok, i've tried to advertise these two geezers before, so, yeah. but you have to give stephan mathieu and ekkehard ehlers a try i like to call their music minimalist/ambient/noise. they've done a collab (Heroin). recommended: -mathieu's album wurmloch variationen is basically 4 manipulated versions of a beautiful piano piece (which is included too) -ekkhard ehler's new album politik braucht keinen feind. the first 3 tracks feature a bass clarinette manipulated to create ambient reminiscent of SAWII. the other tracks are based around orchestral stuff. woolf phrase from this album is a 21 minute masterpiece: basically a loop changing slightly over a long stretch of time. utter sadness. jaw dropping stuff. you have to appreciate avant garde ridiculousness, tho :P |
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qrter is the future of IDM. |
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idm was popular? i think its past its prime, and most of it is sounding samey, pushing the envelope for the sake of pushing the envelope. luckily there are enough classics that it doesn't matter, because those pieces of music are timeless, much like classical music. |
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Fuck IDM, qrter is the future of music. |
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yerah stephan mathieu is good but fennez new one on touch is incredible . i think the term idm is so awful it needs to be forgotten about - it's so stuck up and unpleasant and hard to define its time to get rid of it - it's just a way for fans to define the music they like - if you go ahead and think "i'm gonna make some idm" then things are a bit fkd - |
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IDM just means good music to me. Its a crap term I prefer the term DEM (decent electronic music). |
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so you think non-idm is undecent electronic music? |
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Now your confusing me. Lol. |
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well... in your poste you said you don't like the term IDM, and mentions the term DEM. So I figured you just replaced IDM with DEM. And to point out one type of music as 'decent', means the other music is NOT DECENT. adjectives are used to point out differences, so if used, it means whatever noun you're describing differs from what people normally would think of, when thinking about that noun. |
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SEE THE GROUND SWALLOW A WHOLE CITYBLOCK!!! |
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new IDM album that i want: christ - metamorphic reproduction miracle read the review at watmm.com....sound samples are ace |
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im with you on this one fennesz is doing some great things that go a bit unoticed around these boards. also Lusine has been releasing some amazing material lately, as well as Monolake (new album comming soon), plus when BoC makes a new one things will pick back up... and do make sure to check out all that german shiattt... |
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industrial dance metal? |
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a genre/style/blah like idm with the unlimited boundries cannot end quickly guitar music is still impressing me now and its had over 50yrs to develop whats to stop idm from doing the same |
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i hope idm does die! it's a stupid name, i think this whole 'scene' is evolving into sub-genres anyway, glitch, breakcore, electro, electronica, experimental whatever, who cares it's just a name to package a sound and i'd rather not label it, c'mon lets stop flogging a dead horse. if people ask me 'what type of music do you listen to' i just tell them i've been asked that question a million times and i still don't know what to say, wierd electronic stuff, you'd love it or hate it |
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I also think the term idm needs killing, i hate the term with a passion, i hate pigeonholing stuff in general it's all music that's what matters. |
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and that's the future? |
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we are starting to see the fusion of idm and pop with a few bands like Venus Hum, Mum, and Bjork (obviously) artists like these are becoming more and more popular every day - and i think soon the fusion will be complete. |
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Intelligent my arse! IDM hasn't progressed for years! If you are going to make music, make your music, don't just emulate Aphex and Ae etc. Repeating someone else is just a wasted oppurtunity to be creative. |
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I agree! |
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But i also think that not everybody is, there is actually alot out there that dosen't sound like them. |
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I know but it's frustrating......everyone has the chance to change things, they just need to do it... that sounds crap but I mean it. |
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fennesz isnt idm anyways, its far from it but it is experimental and electronic. idm is not done, nothing completely dies, itll change its course and destination though. |
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so... what is idm then? |
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What is IDM? is it a media term or a nerd term for putting music in it's place? and doesn't fennesz fit into whatever you catagorize 'IDM' as? |
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i'm not sure why anyone would be concerned if music is popular or not. i do notice that every other commercial on tv has a drum n' bass or electronic soundtrack, and the local video store uses almost exclusively acid techno in its promos. this is probably the real death rattle for any electronic music "scene." members of a scene seek to preserve for themselves their precious subcultural signifiers. they want what's new, what's underground and secret and special, because they believe that they are what they like. the music defines their identities. and when the scene erupts into the mainstream, fractures into new styles and loses its genre identity as the classic styles are diluted? nostalgia. "ah, why can't it be like it was back in the day?" of course, individuals' tastes grow and change as well, there are other reasons that individuals lose interest in certain musics and i don't mean to point the finger at anyone in particular. yet the same conversations about "whatever happened to the good old days of this style of music" and "there's nothing original, it's all imitation now" have happened time and again, whether the music came from the underground or not. swing, hard bop, country, fusion, psych rock, progressive rock, punk rock, etc etc etc. if you think it all sounds the same, you're not looking hard enough. admittedly, there is so much released and unreleased music available it's like looking for a needle in a haystack. one mistake is to limit yourself to a particular genre or style. the world is filled with so much fantastic unheard music. and all some can do is wring their hands over the dearth of something they can call "new." |
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i agree with each word said. i'd also add that besides idm (as we are used to call it) there're loads of quality stuff that is worth checking out… e.g. for the last couple of years i've discovered quite a number of jazz/fusion artists whose music is as totally fascinating and challenging as the best electronic acts. surprisingly, the more i 'dig' the more is still there to be discovered. of course, if you are somewhat hungry or bored musically, it may seem really hard to find stuff which would measure up to electronic masterpieces. but the key point is that for any true music lovers there will ALWAYS be something new waiting for them, be it electronic or any other genre. so… seek and you will find :) |
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the catch 22 of electronic music is, the more popular it gets, the more gets released and the easier it is to locate and buy (lots of people remember when, if you didn't have an internet connection, you could find very little electronic music unless you went to a large city). however, the more popular it gets, the more it is produced, and there are more pieces of hardware and software created, and there are hundreds of labels and thousands of artists and it gets harder and harder and takes more time to sift through the vast volume of music produced with increasingly diminishing returns on the time and energy invested. far more music exists than you have the lifespan to hear it. |
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As soon as a scene gets a name, like "IDM" (which I'd only heard used regularly for the first time this year) it starts to age... No doubt about it - The scene was healthiest when it was just modern experiemental electronic artists all doing their own thing. The whole idea of calling it IDM has probably fuk'd the whole thing up now, long term, cos the term will always be associated with the year it was coined. BTW, AE and Aphex are actually on MTV quite often over here. |
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are you talking about me? |
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hmmm... 1. The name IDM is irrelevant...call it monkey ass hole ... the music will be the same. 2. I know that theres hella tight new music thats coming out... but it's not what i would call IDM or whatever. the mars volta is my favorite new band 3. Just because something is old doesn't mean it's bad of course... i'm still rockin aphex and ae all the time... i guess most of the ae clones we bitched about so much are gone that it feels (to me) that the sceane has died a little.... popularity doesn't really affect what I listen (this music was never was popular in the first place) theres just less exicted people about it there were a year ago |
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Bola - Fyuti Funckarma - Solid State Gridlock - Trace Ilkae - Bring Extra Dragons And there are the past classics that no-one ever mentions: Brothomstates - Claro Cex - Role Model D'arcangelo - Broken Toys Corner DNTEL - Life is full of Possibilities Ilkae - Pistachio Island Irresistible Force - Its Tomorrow Already Tweaker - Full Cup of Coffee Slag Boom Van Loon - So Soon Speedy J - A Shocking Hobby Venetian Snares - Songs About My Cats |
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