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jivver, no i wasn't really addressing any individual, just some of the issues that had been raised. |
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actually idm is dead.. idm producers will turn to dancehall and stuff like that.. still good releases out and coming.. cylobotnia, chirs clark, christ, mu-ziq, vensnares, ggoon... but as far as i can tell idm can't survive on it's own.. it'll incorporate igredients from other underground scenes and morph into something completly bizarre |
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i suppose, also, that there is the problem of oversaturation, especially with so much file sharing going on. i think if we did not have access to so much music, we might appreciate the music we have more. |
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the thing is unless richard james (or someone else for that matter) releases something completly groundbreaking (and good) in the same principles of IDM/braindance, the genre will pass to oblivion, the artists will be a great influence of this time but not generally known. blah but i'm not nostradamus so.. blah |
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i think that "IDM" as a genre belongs to the 1st generation of artists like Ae, Aphex, Plaid, Speedy J etc. I think people are just looking to the one label for material as well which means the most popular cross-section of music from the 'scene' will be similar. it is time for the second wave which, by previous examples of other forms of music, should encorporate something new to overhaul the scene be it an electro-acoustic angle or pop-sensibilities. a scene cant exist running around in the same circles that is has done for the past few years. if you ask me, artists these days are too conciuos (bad spelling i know) of being in a scene and the restrictions, responsabilites and pressure that it brings. |
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sorry, but this is all just crap i'm afraid - they're a tonne of new releases out and coming out that all have great merit imho .. if you think things are dying then i would personally suggest that its in fact YOU thats just growing out of the genre .. sorry - just my 2pence worth |
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so what should we do about it? |
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quit |
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I reckon you can hear the IDM style drill and bass in Benny Bernaci's "Satisfaction"- you're right, typically IDM stuff will probably be used in more commercial dancey stuff. |
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where? i don't see it. it's comparable to electroclash yes but i don't see drill and bass |
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support it i guess... not much... spreading the word woul dbe the obvious and make IDM "raves" ... wich will eventually make idm morph into weird dancehall music. that the hip thing today. |
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ill tell you why its yesterdays news people can be suckers for pre programmed stuff for a while, but theyll often grow out of it once it clicks that what might seem to be dynamic is actually just as static as everyday nightclub techno. i think fruity loops has certainly contributed to the fall of experimental electro for that reason. idm has become an every-man-and-his-dog genre (at least to us nerds who are in the know!) |
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Wow. This whole thing goes way back. |
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its ALIVE! |
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I start reading the beginning of this thread and thought it was a 2006 topic. Then i saw a post by KeySecret and looked at the date : it was 2003..... |
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hehehe yep, same here. is idm being yesterdays news yesterdays news? |
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Idm -> Minimal Idm -> Noise Minimal -> Ambient Minimal -> Techno Minimal -> Microsound Noise -> Industrial Noise -> Ambient Noise -> Structured Noise Natural progression. |
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I guess it depends on what you saw in IDM. If its the childish melodies, it almost seems like nobody wants to make or listen to that kind of stuff anymore, but a lot of the tools and esthetics are being used in other kinds of music. |
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One of those early comments by Zeus is spot on. So called IDM is slowly integrating itself into mainstream culture. There is an advert for an LG phone which has autechre, yet doesn't stand out from other ads as having unlistenable music or anything. Top Gear on the BBC, a programme about cars seems to regularly play autechre and afx, perhaps only once it hasn't quite fitted in, otherwise it is subconsious and there is no reason people would want to change channel. CSI has lots of IDM ish influenced incidental music. Its not true IDM if you want to get anal but its clear where it gets its ideas, and millions of people watch that and the music permiates their mind with no ill effect. HMV - my local HMV is a fairly reasonably sized store. Not so big as to be able to split rock/pop into sub genres, yet this still has BOC, AFX, AE, squarepusher, u-ZIQ and a few others in the dance music section. clearly 'IDM' is for 'normal' people too. Channel 4 in the UK have used a lot of afx stuff in trailers for programmes and even in some programmes themselves, like piano tracks from drukqs in serious documentaries. I think that 'IDM' is already well established in the popular conciousness. Perhaps mainly by younger people, but isn't that how the beatles and stones started off? Im sure it will still be a niche-mainstream market and won't appear as number 1 songs, but just think Led Zepelin never had a number 1 in the UK...... The future's bright....the future's Braindance |
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all my cds i have ive bought at shops and not online. yeah, ive bought some good stuff at hmv. im kinda used to it being not bda for idm stuff now, if that means anything at all!?! |
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