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offline DeLtoiD from Ontario on 2003-07-26 03:05 [#00794298]
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have you ever feel this way....

have you ever wanted to end your own life.?????

depression is hard I deal with, i know.



 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-07-26 03:16 [#00794305]
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Yes i have, yes I can relate...and not im not suicidall
right now


 

offline anon from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 03:18 [#00794306]
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hasn't everyone considerd it?????


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:43 [#00794309]
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not seriously, but of course, kind of thinking about it from
time to time.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:44 [#00794310]
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it's mostly just a simple seretonin imbalance, as they say.
either go ahead and kill yourself, or just don't have kids,
as they say, it is hereditary.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-07-26 03:45 [#00794311]
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I haven't ever thought of it. It makes me sad to think that
some people get that depressed that they think it's worth
ending it all.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:47 [#00794312]
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i wouldn't think people who are comfortable displaying
streetfighter characters in their avatars would be affected
as such


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-07-26 03:49 [#00794313]
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the world is full of surprises :)


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:50 [#00794314]
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no, i meant to say that people who have no problem doing
that, probably have no thought of killing themselves. mostly
because they aren't thinking enough at all.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-07-26 03:54 [#00794315]
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I suppose so

I have known one of two people who have committed
suicide...the effect on the families after is just awefull,
as you'd imagine. :(


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-26 04:12 [#00794319]
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sad word

I know what it means... cos a friend decided to leave us
all

sad word


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-07-26 06:08 [#00794349]
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Suicide is a losers way out...even when I have been
depressed and not arsed about dying I have never wanted to
kill myself...I have always wanted to take as many other
people out as I could and be killed in the process.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-07-26 06:10 [#00794350]
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I dunno why that followed Chris up, it wasn't meant to.

btw...when a person kills themself it is because they or
their condition has got them into a totally selfish and self
centered state of mind. Suicide is induced by self pity.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-07-26 06:13 [#00794352]
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im happy.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-07-26 06:14 [#00794353]
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That is because your depression melts away in the sweetly
sorrowful tunes that are produced by radiohead.


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-07-26 06:15 [#00794355]
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well, actually yes.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-07-26 06:23 [#00794356]
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No it is not, maybe you should do some research on the
subject before you make such ignorant comments


 

offline purlieu from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 09:43 [#00794421]
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Mr. Backwards Braindance, if you've never considered
suicide, you're probably not the authority on the
subject, let's be fair.

I have considered a few times in the past... been talked out
of it once, and the other times something happened that made
me reconsider.
One thing about suicide, certainly, is that the only time
you consider it is when you are in the worst frame of mind
to do so. When you want to do it, you're not balanced enough
to make such an important decision.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-07-26 09:54 [#00794433]
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who are we to judge?
suicide is sad, thats all I can say, sad for the ones that
miss the dead person, and sad cos he/she died so lonely


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-07-26 15:43 [#00794739]
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Erm...I have actually done research on the subject and I
have a very healthy interest in both biological and social
psychology. Suicide is ultimately a selfish act, notice how
I actually said it can be caused by a mental condition,
meaning I understand that it is not action taken by a
rational mind.

I do firmly beleive that the path leading to suicide is
often very self destructive, and if people had more will
power and strength they would never reach that stage.

I have a friend who commited suicide and another friend who
has tried to kill himself on a number of occasions. I tried
to be there for both of them but it is not possible to be
there all the time, and I stand by what I said, it is a
selfish thing to do.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-07-26 16:16 [#00794757]
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of what use is it to judge those who have committed suicide
by condemning them as selfish? suicide is the result of an
individual exhausting all of their coping resources.

isn't any self-destructive act by definition self-centered?
yet we should offer support, and help, and compassion, not
judgement and condemnation. how can we accept for ourselves
help, support, and compassion if we are not willing to give
these gifts to others?



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-07-26 16:22 [#00794758]
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I didn't jusge people who have commited suicide as selfish,
I said it is a selfish act. BIG difference.


 

offline Oddioblender from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-26 16:34 [#00794762]
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Back when i was still in high school i thought about but
never got around to it.

whenever i got depressed, i VENTED by writing poetry,
drawing art, or making music.


 

offline ScreamUnheard from Redmond, WA (United States) on 2003-07-26 18:24 [#00794799]
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I've been very, very close to ending my own life. I think
about it daily... :-/ Depression sucks. I would agree that
it is a selfish act though because you are putting your
feelings above your family and friends, which is why I have
resisted up until this point.


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-26 18:34 [#00794805]
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FUCK SUICIDE


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-26 18:37 [#00794807]
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OH SUICIDE.... UP YOURS!


 

offline evolume from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-26 18:56 [#00794819]
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someday,
if i have nothing left to live for,
i hope i have the physical and mental capacity to end my own
life rather than waiting for time to do it.
but today, i still find life so interesting and intriguing
to just give it all up. i always want to see what happens
tomorrow. What's going to happen next?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 19:15 [#00794831]
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the whole nine yards is premiering on itv next wedensday
this makes me want to kill myself


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 19:47 [#00794834]
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hey braindance
while you're running along
with this whole
'selfish act'
thing,
i'd just like to say that
it isn't necessarily everyone's
opinion that selfishness is a bad thing.
I for one think it is virtuous


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-26 20:33 [#00794842]
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of course I've thought of suicide... basically everytime I'm
really down and depressed it crosses my mind... but I would
never do it...

and I would never judge people who commit suicide, because
I've come pretty close myself... I thought one time that my
life was just hopeless, and that I'd never pick up the
pieces... it's a scary thing, and when you're really
depressed you don't think straight, and it definitely
doesn't hit you that things will get ok... rather, you feel
the opposite that things will get worse... thankfully I
never did it, and now things are great... I still get down
from time to time, and think about it... but I realize now
that pain comes and goes... no matter what you might feel,
tomorrow, next week, month or year you could be totally
happy with everything going right... you just have to press
on and make the best of every situation... that's all you
can do...


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-26 20:38 [#00794843]
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there ain't anything wrong with thinking about suicide...
everyone has thought about it... you just have to realize
that it isn't a viable option... just like with murder or
rape or any terrible crime like that, most people have
thought about it one time or another, but what separates us
is those who just let it cross their minds, and those who
act...


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-07-26 21:29 [#00794867]
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i spent the first 22 years of my life thinking suicide was
an insanely selfish and weak thing to do.

then, towards the end of 2001 i got pretty serriously
depressed. like, couldn't even remember if i'd ever been
happy in the first place. i was fucked up majorly.

i consider myself a pretty rational person. i'm usually
capable of figuring out what's going on with myself. but,
there for a few months i was very much out of my tits. it
was hard to focus on anything longer than a few seconds. i
lost weight, lost friends, and lost touch with reality... in
a VERY not fun way.

there was a period of about two or three weeks where i
constantly considered suicide as a very viable solution. it
was the lowest i've ever been, and it was scary. should've
gotten proffesional help, but didn't and struggled through
it basically by myself.

i am very glad i didn't do anything stupid. but, i look at
depression in a completely different light after that. i
was always a believer in the ability of a person to control
what goes on inside themselves. but, i sure as hell felt
out of control of my mind for a little too long durring that
phase of my life.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-07-27 16:30 [#00795836]
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ecnadniarb, the reply feature does not work for me, so...

to me, you seem to be playing a game of semantics to avoid
taking responsibility for choosing to judge an individual.
you seem to be hesitant to judge an individual, and you say
there is a big difference between viewing an act as selfish,
and viewing a person as selfish. but what is a person who
commits an act that you deem selfish, but selfish?
otherwise, what is the point of observing "that act is
selfish?" if a "selfish act" does not reflect upon the
individual who acted, isn't the observation meaningless?

perhaps you intend to invoke the "hate the sin, love the
sinner" approach. to me, this is again an attempt to deny
one's own act of judgement. to judge without judging, if
you will. the "sin" you perceive is a scarlet letter
nonetheless.

i'm not making this argument because i want to demonstrate
that you are wrong. to me, i want to view the issue as:
what will best serve us collectively and as individuals when
considering an individual who is contemplating or has
committed suicide?

if you can change your own mind to resist condemnation of an
individual, then you are capable of helping an individual
change their own mind about a decision to commit suicide by
employing the same resources you used to change your mind.




 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-07-27 18:47 [#00795971]
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i wanna suicide mysel;f right nwos


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2003-07-27 18:49 [#00795974]
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This doesn't sound like a good idea.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-07-27 18:54 [#00795978]
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but everything hurts


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2003-07-27 18:55 [#00795980]
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hungover?


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-07-27 18:56 [#00795981]
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nah.. just bitchy.

those stuped girls spilt beef sauce and coffee all over the
van and I had to clean it all up! and they took the stuped
keys home so I was stressed and and and.. argh!!!!!


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2003-07-27 19:05 [#00796005]
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Your story led me to tears. Life can be such a bitch. But
keep courage, if you're strong enough, you'll get over it.
Eventually. Perhaps.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-07-27 19:06 [#00796009]
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Thanks for your kind words. *rejoices in life*


 

offline Verkrampte from Renton (United States) on 2003-07-27 19:11 [#00796024]
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suicide is dumbbbbbbbb DUMBBBBBBBB


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-07-27 19:13 [#00796029]
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you're dumbbbbbbbbbb DUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2003-07-27 19:14 [#00796031]
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Dumbbbbbbbbbbness is dumbbbbbbbbbb (DUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB).


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-07-27 19:16 [#00796034]
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DDDDDDDDDDDDDDuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh
nooooOOOOOOO DUmmmmmmHHHHHHHHHBBBBBBBBBBB
hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


 

offline accela from Detroit (United States) on 2003-07-27 22:52 [#00796203]
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someone once told me any man who hasn't thought about
suicide is not intelligent

interesting


 

offline Verkrampte from Renton (United States) on 2003-07-27 23:13 [#00796210]
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then consider me stupid


 

offline od_step_cloak from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-27 23:25 [#00796212]
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Yeah I have but life is up atm so I'm all good.

Thought I'm gettign weirder every week apparently.


 

offline RobE from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-28 02:49 [#00796255]
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Suicide....good group.

Oh,that suicide?
Bottling everything up doesn't help,so you should try and
speak to someone about your problems.

It's the people left behind that suffer...as i think Nacmat
and Funkmaster said...

};>


 

offline xf from Australia on 2003-07-28 03:02 [#00796257]
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haha, nothing wrong with that


 

offline big from lsg on 2003-07-28 03:06 [#00796262]
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this is a good thread, that's all i have to say about it


 


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