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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2003-07-26 03:05 [#00794298]
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have you ever feel this way....
have you ever wanted to end your own life.?????
depression is hard I deal with, i know.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-07-26 03:16 [#00794305]
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Yes i have, yes I can relate...and not im not suicidall right now
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 03:18 [#00794306]
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hasn't everyone considerd it?????
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:43 [#00794309]
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not seriously, but of course, kind of thinking about it from time to time.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:44 [#00794310]
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it's mostly just a simple seretonin imbalance, as they say. either go ahead and kill yourself, or just don't have kids, as they say, it is hereditary.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-26 03:45 [#00794311]
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I haven't ever thought of it. It makes me sad to think that some people get that depressed that they think it's worth ending it all.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:47 [#00794312]
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i wouldn't think people who are comfortable displaying streetfighter characters in their avatars would be affected as such
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-26 03:49 [#00794313]
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the world is full of surprises :)
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 03:50 [#00794314]
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no, i meant to say that people who have no problem doing that, probably have no thought of killing themselves. mostly because they aren't thinking enough at all.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-26 03:54 [#00794315]
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I suppose so
I have known one of two people who have committed suicide...the effect on the families after is just awefull, as you'd imagine. :(
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nacmat
on 2003-07-26 04:12 [#00794319]
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sad word
I know what it means... cos a friend decided to leave us all
sad word
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-26 06:08 [#00794349]
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Suicide is a losers way out...even when I have been depressed and not arsed about dying I have never wanted to kill myself...I have always wanted to take as many other people out as I could and be killed in the process.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-26 06:10 [#00794350]
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I dunno why that followed Chris up, it wasn't meant to.
btw...when a person kills themself it is because they or their condition has got them into a totally selfish and self centered state of mind. Suicide is induced by self pity.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-07-26 06:13 [#00794352]
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im happy.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-26 06:14 [#00794353]
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That is because your depression melts away in the sweetly sorrowful tunes that are produced by radiohead.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-07-26 06:15 [#00794355]
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well, actually yes.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-07-26 06:23 [#00794356]
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No it is not, maybe you should do some research on the subject before you make such ignorant comments
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 09:43 [#00794421]
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Mr. Backwards Braindance, if you've never considered suicide, you're probably not the authority on the subject, let's be fair.
I have considered a few times in the past... been talked out of it once, and the other times something happened that made me reconsider.
One thing about suicide, certainly, is that the only time you consider it is when you are in the worst frame of mind to do so. When you want to do it, you're not balanced enough to make such an important decision.
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nacmat
on 2003-07-26 09:54 [#00794433]
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who are we to judge? suicide is sad, thats all I can say, sad for the ones that miss the dead person, and sad cos he/she died so lonely
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-26 15:43 [#00794739]
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Erm...I have actually done research on the subject and I have a very healthy interest in both biological and social psychology. Suicide is ultimately a selfish act, notice how I actually said it can be caused by a mental condition, meaning I understand that it is not action taken by a rational mind.
I do firmly beleive that the path leading to suicide is often very self destructive, and if people had more will power and strength they would never reach that stage.
I have a friend who commited suicide and another friend who has tried to kill himself on a number of occasions. I tried to be there for both of them but it is not possible to be there all the time, and I stand by what I said, it is a selfish thing to do.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-07-26 16:16 [#00794757]
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of what use is it to judge those who have committed suicide by condemning them as selfish? suicide is the result of an individual exhausting all of their coping resources.
isn't any self-destructive act by definition self-centered? yet we should offer support, and help, and compassion, not judgement and condemnation. how can we accept for ourselves help, support, and compassion if we are not willing to give these gifts to others?
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-07-26 16:22 [#00794758]
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I didn't jusge people who have commited suicide as selfish, I said it is a selfish act. BIG difference.
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2003-07-26 16:34 [#00794762]
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Back when i was still in high school i thought about but never got around to it.
whenever i got depressed, i VENTED by writing poetry, drawing art, or making music.
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ScreamUnheard
from Redmond, WA (United States) on 2003-07-26 18:24 [#00794799]
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I've been very, very close to ending my own life. I think about it daily... :-/ Depression sucks. I would agree that it is a selfish act though because you are putting your feelings above your family and friends, which is why I have resisted up until this point.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-26 18:34 [#00794805]
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FUCK SUICIDE
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-26 18:37 [#00794807]
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OH SUICIDE.... UP YOURS!
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-07-26 18:56 [#00794819]
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someday, if i have nothing left to live for, i hope i have the physical and mental capacity to end my own life rather than waiting for time to do it.
but today, i still find life so interesting and intriguing to just give it all up. i always want to see what happens tomorrow. What's going to happen next?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-26 19:15 [#00794831]
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the whole nine yards is premiering on itv next wedensday this makes me want to kill myself
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-07-26 19:47 [#00794834]
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hey braindance while you're running along with this whole 'selfish act' thing, i'd just like to say that it isn't necessarily everyone's opinion that selfishness is a bad thing. I for one think it is virtuous
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-26 20:33 [#00794842]
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of course I've thought of suicide... basically everytime I'm really down and depressed it crosses my mind... but I would never do it...
and I would never judge people who commit suicide, because I've come pretty close myself... I thought one time that my life was just hopeless, and that I'd never pick up the pieces... it's a scary thing, and when you're really depressed you don't think straight, and it definitely doesn't hit you that things will get ok... rather, you feel the opposite that things will get worse... thankfully I never did it, and now things are great... I still get down from time to time, and think about it... but I realize now that pain comes and goes... no matter what you might feel, tomorrow, next week, month or year you could be totally happy with everything going right... you just have to press on and make the best of every situation... that's all you can do...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-07-26 20:38 [#00794843]
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there ain't anything wrong with thinking about suicide... everyone has thought about it... you just have to realize that it isn't a viable option... just like with murder or rape or any terrible crime like that, most people have thought about it one time or another, but what separates us is those who just let it cross their minds, and those who act...
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-07-26 21:29 [#00794867]
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i spent the first 22 years of my life thinking suicide was an insanely selfish and weak thing to do.
then, towards the end of 2001 i got pretty serriously depressed. like, couldn't even remember if i'd ever been happy in the first place. i was fucked up majorly.
i consider myself a pretty rational person. i'm usually capable of figuring out what's going on with myself. but, there for a few months i was very much out of my tits. it was hard to focus on anything longer than a few seconds. i lost weight, lost friends, and lost touch with reality... in a VERY not fun way.
there was a period of about two or three weeks where i constantly considered suicide as a very viable solution. it was the lowest i've ever been, and it was scary. should've gotten proffesional help, but didn't and struggled through it basically by myself.
i am very glad i didn't do anything stupid. but, i look at depression in a completely different light after that. i was always a believer in the ability of a person to control what goes on inside themselves. but, i sure as hell felt out of control of my mind for a little too long durring that phase of my life.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-07-27 16:30 [#00795836]
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ecnadniarb, the reply feature does not work for me, so...
to me, you seem to be playing a game of semantics to avoid taking responsibility for choosing to judge an individual. you seem to be hesitant to judge an individual, and you say there is a big difference between viewing an act as selfish, and viewing a person as selfish. but what is a person who commits an act that you deem selfish, but selfish? otherwise, what is the point of observing "that act is selfish?" if a "selfish act" does not reflect upon the individual who acted, isn't the observation meaningless?
perhaps you intend to invoke the "hate the sin, love the sinner" approach. to me, this is again an attempt to deny one's own act of judgement. to judge without judging, if you will. the "sin" you perceive is a scarlet letter nonetheless.
i'm not making this argument because i want to demonstrate that you are wrong. to me, i want to view the issue as: what will best serve us collectively and as individuals when considering an individual who is contemplating or has committed suicide?
if you can change your own mind to resist condemnation of an individual, then you are capable of helping an individual change their own mind about a decision to commit suicide by employing the same resources you used to change your mind.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-27 18:47 [#00795971]
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i wanna suicide mysel;f right nwos
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-07-27 18:49 [#00795974]
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This doesn't sound like a good idea.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-27 18:54 [#00795978]
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but everything hurts
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-07-27 18:55 [#00795980]
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hungover?
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-27 18:56 [#00795981]
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nah.. just bitchy.
those stuped girls spilt beef sauce and coffee all over the van and I had to clean it all up! and they took the stuped keys home so I was stressed and and and.. argh!!!!!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-07-27 19:05 [#00796005]
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Your story led me to tears. Life can be such a bitch. But keep courage, if you're strong enough, you'll get over it. Eventually. Perhaps.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-27 19:06 [#00796009]
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Thanks for your kind words. *rejoices in life*
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Verkrampte
from Renton (United States) on 2003-07-27 19:11 [#00796024]
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suicide is dumbbbbbbbb DUMBBBBBBBB
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-27 19:13 [#00796029]
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you're dumbbbbbbbbbb DUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2003-07-27 19:14 [#00796031]
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Dumbbbbbbbbbbness is dumbbbbbbbbbb (DUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBB).
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-27 19:16 [#00796034]
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DDDDDDDDDDDDDDuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh nooooOOOOOOO DUmmmmmmHHHHHHHHHBBBBBBBBBBB hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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accela
from Detroit (United States) on 2003-07-27 22:52 [#00796203]
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someone once told me any man who hasn't thought about suicide is not intelligent
interesting
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Verkrampte
from Renton (United States) on 2003-07-27 23:13 [#00796210]
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then consider me stupid
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od_step_cloak
from Pleth (Australia) on 2003-07-27 23:25 [#00796212]
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Yeah I have but life is up atm so I'm all good.
Thought I'm gettign weirder every week apparently.
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RobE
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-28 02:49 [#00796255]
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Suicide....good group.
Oh,that suicide? Bottling everything up doesn't help,so you should try and speak to someone about your problems.
It's the people left behind that suffer...as i think Nacmat and Funkmaster said...
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xf
from Australia on 2003-07-28 03:02 [#00796257]
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haha, nothing wrong with that
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big
from lsg on 2003-07-28 03:06 [#00796262]
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this is a good thread, that's all i have to say about it
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