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Animals (non-human) never have to think about this stuff. They don't have to think what age they are. The concept is invisible to them. They don't have to bother with possessions. All they need is themself generally; evolution provided what they need, that would be nice. They don't even have to brush their teeth. Especially for the latter reason, I want to be an animal. But the real world of animals isn't filled with cartoon rabbits called thumper. There are parasites and predators. The lion, hyiena etc. situation in africa doesn't look terribly pleasant. I shouldn't say these things because it's disrespectful to "god", whatever miraculous algorithm type thing that is. If I am the only one truly responsible for myself than I am fucked. That's not true (what could be said of a nestling cannibalized by it's nestmate for example.), to sum everything up: "everything just is". I like typing. |
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I always like the idea that although most of us (except Charlton Heston, ofcourse) will have been blown away, the rest of nature will survive. |
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It's the exact opposite with me. I used to fantasize about being the sole ruler of the universe when I realised that I would still just be a variable in an equation. That was acute dissillusionment.!!!!!! |
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i think more people should just wait it out. |
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Suicide is awsome. I can see myself killing myself when im 30, as a lonely, drunk, poor, sockfucking virgin, i have no reason to live..... |
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Suicide...is terrible thinks in it. I has an collegue that killed himself cause he don´t accepted the fac that he was gay! Fuck! He stayied 3 days in an fucking hospital vomiting and others stuffs....(poison) |
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if you are really from Germany you should meet up with monoid, you would make a lovely couple. |
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well, i really can't see how labels such as 'selfish' etc. can be applied to something so absolute as suicide. it is such an overwhelmingly momentous act that it stands, imo, entirely beside moral considerations. i think about it all the time. i find it hard not to, and not just when i'm depressed -- usually because the topic attaches itself to any profound question regarding the nature of being. i think non-existence is very attractive. to be conscious in the final moments -- to witness the dissolution of any and all petty concerns, until the full weight of being is realized, and then swiftly alleviated -- seems momentous, absolutely fantastic in implications, and so wonderfully private -- an event entirely unspoiled by the significance of others. |
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Who is in a better position in life than I? Anyone with more than 0 friends and or a girlfriend, or a Job. Not past 25 and still clueless about themselves. A rock star. Other too embarresing things that I am even ashamed to mention on an anonymous message board.. Someone who sees something different everyday besides their front lawn. I like myself and don't want suicide, but lot's have much around them in their lives and do. So, maybe it's brain chemistry at play more than anything. |
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happy cycling, your assumptions about death could be wrong. What if your conscious state continues after being buried locked in your corpse...? Wouldn't you like to stave that off for a while? What if your mind moves on into some other nightmare? Or another planet..with even more green hills and varieties of fruit..The fact that you are here at this time gives credance to any theory of future existence. Consciousness, although painful at times, is a fucking miracle. It seems that the youth ponder suicide more than anybody.... I think it's perhaps they live for themselves and not others. I could be wrong |
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I don't think of suicidees (!) as selfish. It's not an act I admire, but unless you've successfully killed yourself, you don't know what it's like, can't see where they're coming from. Attempted suicides don't count, attention whore. A guy just up the road here painted the walls with his brains a month or two ago. Guy had a wife, 2 kids, nice big house, TWO thriving businesses... tough to fathom why he did it. Impossible to understand, so who am I to judge? Should he have have toughed it out to improve his life? Maybe he was, for a couple of decades. Carved a nice niche for his life, provided for his family... who knows. ''Chemical imbalance''? Boredom? Maybe he was framed, and he's living the good life in Jamaica right now. Some people aren't built for this life. Some sperm cells got sucked into the vortex of life against their will... they should have crashed into the vaginal walls and died. Me, though I'm a miserable S.O.B, I could never kill myself... there's so many little things that are SO great, I'd rather not cut the fun times short. It's a pretty amazing existence. And I'm one of the lucky ones that doesn't give a shit about girls. They seem to be the deciding factors about happiness in so many boys' lives. |
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So throw caution to the wind, you and a friend Can jump off of a bridge and if you live, do it again Shit, why not? Blow your brain out, I'm blowing mine out Fuck it, you only live once you might as well die now |
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For me, the idea of suicide can give relief in times of having the feeling of having no control over my life. It gives me my sense of control back; there's always this one option which is completely under my control. Not that i ever would though. |
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I saw a guy on ogrish who tried to kill himself. Blew his face off and LIVED! |
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If your strong enough to kill yourself then your strong enough to get though anything |
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radiohead. |
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I agree that suicide is selfish, but only in that everything a person can do is selfish because it satisfies in them some desire present at the time of the action (even if it is a charitable desire). Interesting that you cite an interest in social and biological psychology, because from a sociobiological evolutionary perspective, suicide only makes sense as an act of altruism. When an individual comes to believe that they are a burden upon the wellbeing of their kin in a time of scarce resources, their act of sacrifice may enhance the survival of those better placed to utilise those scarce resources. (these kin carry some of our own genes and so ultimately even this altruism is selfish, but i don't think you meant selfish on this level). Of course in western societies we no longer live in such dire circumstances, but evolution acts over 100,000 years not 1000 years, and our brains have not adapted to this change. So suicide can be seen as a misfiring of prehistoric hunter-gatherer behaviour which would have enhanced the survival of our genes in the past, but is maladaptive today. |
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------ I can't finish myself because that will heavily depress my parents and kick the psychic of my two younger sisters hard, which I don't want. And, besides that, I simply don't want to commit suicide, even when depressed a lot. Sometimes the good way to give depression a kick is to eat something - to cook yourself a BORSHCH or something equally good and hoover it up the oesophagus, or down the gullet. It helps in around 57% of depression cases. |
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