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         |  artemis
             from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-07-17 04:51 [#00782812] Points: 667 Status: Lurker
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 | Which artist are to you unsung heroes in IDM? To me it's B12 from the early '90. The music was so influencial at that
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         |  Refund
             from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-07-17 04:53 [#00782815] Points: 7824 Status: Lurker
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 | stockhausen 
 
 
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         |  corticalstim
             from Canada on 2003-07-17 04:55 [#00782818] Points: 3885 Status: Regular
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 | otto van schirach 
 
 
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         |  S M Pennyworth
             from East Timor on 2003-07-17 05:39 [#00782853] Points: 2196 Status: Lurker
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 | jasson d 
 
 
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         |  recycle
             from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-07-17 05:58 [#00782869] Points: 40933 Status: Lurker
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 | richard d. james and unit, well not rdj 
 sorry i dont know to many underground imd'ers
 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 05:59 [#00782870] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | artemis, 
 B12 don't appear to release music anymore or if they do its
 going pretty unnoticed.
 
 Well unsung heroes; I'd definitely have to go for someone
 like Clatterbox who is on Hydrogen Dukebox records. He is
 pretty exceptional, he was on Clear Records originally which
 kinda came out of Rephlex. Some of the Mircromusic.net
 producers go pretty unnoticed I guess. I think Gwem is
 pretty top rate and so is DRX (one half of Bodenstandig
 2000).
 
 
 
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         |  alnuit
             on 2003-07-17 06:02 [#00782875] Points: 1113 Status: Lurker
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 | Tom Middleton...for all his work with Global Communication...Reload...Jedi Knights, and most notably for
 all his early work with Aphex on the Bubblebaths that made
 Aphex so famous...
 
 
 
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         |  aron
             from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-07-17 06:16 [#00782895] Points: 3756 Status: Lurker | Followup to alnuit: #00782875
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 | he was only on ab1 i think 
 
 
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         |  alnuit
             on 2003-07-17 06:19 [#00782900] Points: 1113 Status: Lurker | Followup to aron: #00782895
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 | yeah...but he was one of those people that are quite forgotten...I mean...after all he was there during the
 formative years of the scene...and today, not too many
 people go around sayin 'Tom Middleton is my hero'...I think
 his work with Reload is just amazing.
 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-17 06:22 [#00782902] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag
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 | it was a progression for me.. 
 hip hop
 industrial
 house
 breakbeat
 jungle
 idm
 
 i guess the first 'idm' i was really into was the orbs
 adventures beyond the ultraworld album released in 94 i
 guess.
 
 
 
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         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2003-07-17 06:24 [#00782907] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker
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 | definately ALTERN8 
 
 
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         |  merg
             from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-17 06:25 [#00782908] Points: 1708 Status: Regular | Followup to pomme de terre: #00782902
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 | 1991, sir! 
 
 
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         |  pomme de terre
             from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-17 06:26 [#00782909] Points: 11943 Status: Moderator | Followup to merg: #00782908 | Show recordbag
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 | ah thanks.. wow im old 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 06:32 [#00782919] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | alnuit, 
 Yes yes yes I totally second Tom Middleton. Reload and
 Global Comms sorry no one can touch them. Reload especially,
 extremely high quality material and innovation. Why the hell
 did they grind to a halt? 1993's 'A Collection of Short
 Stories' was such a good record. And Global Communications
 (sigh) oh they were so so good. Shame he is now producing
 pretty unnoticeable music. The other half of Reload has gone
 on to make really trashy disgusting Ibiza crappy yobby get
 drunk and be crude as hell dance music sad sad sad.
 
 
 
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         |  aron
             from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-07-17 07:26 [#00783005] Points: 3756 Status: Lurker | Followup to marlowe: #00782907
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 | YES! 
 
 
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         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2003-07-17 07:27 [#00783007] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker | Followup to aron: #00783005
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 | haha, you remember them do you? :D 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-17 07:29 [#00783010] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | it doesn't matter cause you'll just end up listening to smojphace again
 
 
 
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         |  alnuit
             on 2003-07-17 07:30 [#00783012] Points: 1113 Status: Lurker | Followup to promo: #00782919
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 | "A collection of short stories" is a briliant collection. Reload were definitely amazing. Just look at the number of
 guys that continue to remix "Le Soleil et la Mer" till
 today...
 
 
 
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         |  alnuit
             on 2003-07-17 07:32 [#00783017] Points: 1113 Status: Lurker | Followup to marlowe: #00783007
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 | Is this the early 90's ravers that you are talking about ? The KLF style shockers...?
 
 
 
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         |  artemis
             from Ghent (Belgium) on 2003-07-17 07:32 [#00783018] Points: 667 Status: Lurker
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 | It's a pitty of that i own no one record of Reload/Evolution. I guess the prices on ebay are horrible
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         |  marlowe
             from Antarctica on 2003-07-17 07:33 [#00783019] Points: 24636 Status: Lurker | Followup to alnuit: #00783017
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 | yessir ! I believe they're the ones famous for Vicks vaporub smeared in their masks !
 
 
 
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         |  alnuit
             on 2003-07-17 07:34 [#00783025] Points: 1113 Status: Lurker | Followup to marlowe: #00783019
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 | Yes indeed...funny guys them. :)) 
 
 
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         |  DirtyPriest
             from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-07-17 08:14 [#00783099] Points: 5499 Status: Lurker
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 | I know its not really IDM, But still DMX Krew deserves so much attention for his brilliant music. I just know, if
 people ever heard his shit, they'd adore it, but they
 don't........ He's underrated...
 
 Good topic this one, instead of everything being about AE
 and Afx.
 
 
 
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         |  broken phillip
             on 2003-07-17 08:36 [#00783141] Points: 828 Status: Lurker
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 | those altern8 guys had some mad breaks happening. 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 08:38 [#00783149] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | Yes "Le Soleil et la Mer" top notch. 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-17 08:39 [#00783155] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | newer doormouse 
 his old stuff is mostly gabber/jungle hard shit, but some of
 his new stuff is more "idm"
 
 how idm of all of you
 
 
 
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         |  broken phillip
             on 2003-07-17 08:41 [#00783161] Points: 828 Status: Lurker
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 | i dont know if he's too well know or not but suburban knight was making mad dark techno in 1990 and before.
 
 the art of stalking is a fine track.. i also downloaded
 another great track of his from slsk that i cannot think of
 the name of @ the mo.
 
 
 
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         |  cirrius logic
             on 2003-07-17 08:43 [#00783167] Points: 155 Status: Lurker
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 | >The other half of Reload has gone >on to make really trashy disgusting >Ibiza crappy yobby get
 
 >drunk and be crude as hell dance >music sad sad sad.
 
 Hate to break it to you but Tom Middleton is Cosmos who went
 on to do a lot of house and ibiza tunes. Mark Pritchard now
 does a lot of hip hop, he was also behind the rave version
 of rhubarb and custard....
 
 Mark
 
 http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/?mod=PageMod.showCompone
 nt§ion_id=2&category_id=&component_id=203&component_typ
 e=feature
 
 Tom
 
 http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/?mod=PageMod.showCompone
 nt§ion_id=1&category_id=16&component_id=12&component_ty
 pe=feature
 
 
 
 
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         |  eXXailon
             from purgatory on 2003-07-17 08:43 [#00783168] Points: 6745 Status: Lurker
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 | seefeel....definately 
 I mean...OK they split up, but they had such a nice and
 unique sound, therefore definately one of my fave bands
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 08:46 [#00783177] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | cirrius logic, 
 Gets confusing. Wasn't Mark Pritchard the dude who worked
 with Aphex?
 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-17 08:47 [#00783179] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | also xanopticon is pretty good, but he's recent 
 
 
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         |  promo
             from United Kingdom on 2003-07-17 08:50 [#00783186] Points: 4227 Status: Addict
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 | That is so gutting! How can Middleton make cool tracks with Aphex and then do that yob shit as Cosmos? Really sad. That
 Cosmos shite is so utterly disgusting, I hate it, hate it,
 hate it. Such pleb music.
 
 
 
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         |  broken phillip
             on 2003-07-17 08:50 [#00783187] Points: 828 Status: Lurker
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 | severed heads were making stuff in the early 80's - -> http://sevcom.com/
 
 mad cut and paste stuff. i heard in an interveiw lately that
 he still uses a commadore64 to sequence his music.
 
 
 
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         |  plaidzebra
             from so long, xlt on 2003-07-17 11:55 [#00783518] Points: 5678 Status: Lurker
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 | severed heads made many classic mutant electronic tunes. check out the "hot with fleas" 12", and "dead eyes opened"
 ep, and the album "come visit the big bigot" (called "the
 big bigot" in australia).
 
 for more noise oriented severed heads, check out "since the
 accident" and "city slab horror."
 
 anything after 1988 is going to be spotty.  their career was
 ruined by association with the so-called industrial sound
 (which they really never had) that became very
 unfashionable, subsequent apparent attempts at a clubbier
 sound,  as well as a few weak albums and singles.
 
 other artists who don't get mentioned here (but should)
 include:
 
 tim koch: a plaid vibe with great melodies and catchy
 rhythms.  see "shorts in alaska."
 
 sogar:  warm sparkly static flows up and over you.  see
 "stengel."
 
 
 
 
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         |  Nexus 6
             from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-17 12:07 [#00783545] Points: 3221 Status: Lurker
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 | bogdan 
 
 
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         |  broken phillip
             on 2003-07-17 20:07 [#00784337] Points: 828 Status: Lurker
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 | i just dl'd and listened to - Le Soleil et la Mer. its beutiful..
 
 thanks for the recomendation..
 
 the mp3 was labled with reload as the artist but the ID3 tag
 says global communuications?
 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-17 20:09 [#00784344] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker
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 | Gridlock 
 
 
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         |  broken phillip
             on 2003-07-17 21:42 [#00784481] Points: 828 Status: Lurker | Followup to cirrius logic: #00783167
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 | just read those interveiws.. very interesting.
 
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         |  AMinal
             from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-07-17 22:14 [#00784532] Points: 3476 Status: Regular
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 | ok i dont know if you'd call him a "hero"... (i dont think hes very influential)... but autechre like him, and i'd feel
 like a hero if they liked me.. im talking about
 
 FREEFORM!!!!!
 
 no one ever mentions him!! hes VERY under-rated imo.....
 
 check out "elastic speakers", his first album and by far the
 most conventional sound, but very very good, and the easiest
 to get into
 
 his music just gets weirder from there.. hes developed a
 pretty organic sound, especially Audiotourism
 his latest is Human which is also cool... lots of complex,
 "skittering" rhythms and combinations of sounds
 
 anyways very good and underrated
 
 
 
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         |  Zombiekev
             from Ardmore (United States) on 2003-07-17 22:33 [#00784548] Points: 2857 Status: Lurker
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 | B12, sounds like a boyband or a local coke dealer. 
 
 
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         |  teapot
             from Paddington (Australia) on 2003-07-17 22:38 [#00784550] Points: 5739 Status: Regular
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 | beaumont hannant 
 
 
 
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         |  Amnesiac
             from ERIE (United States) on 2003-07-17 22:43 [#00784551] Points: 2084 Status: Lurker
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 | cex 
 
 
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         |  Portland
             from San Diego (United States) on 2003-07-17 22:45 [#00784553] Points: 695 Status: Regular
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 | i would have to agree with the Gridlock statement. 
 
 
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         |  Kirkle
             on 2003-07-17 23:06 [#00784566] Points: 262 Status: Lurker
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 | Otto. 
 Lyrics from Chopped Zombie Fungus out takes I through III
 
 Benadict: "Hello, my name is Benadict. I am here to ask you
 some questions, for your fans out there, the vampires of
 IDM"
 
 Otto: "fffffffuuuu---oh a oh a ha hu ay! I don't make fuckin
 IDDDMMMMmmmmm"
 
 Benedict: "oooohhh."
 
 Benedict: "My first question is about your third album. The
 glamourous Chopped Zombie Fungus Trilogy. Are you
 considering perhaps bonus material? Like extra songs, you
 know, for the vampires?"
 
 Otto: "Boom boom, rock speggetti, toe picker, use a
 blueberry, toe sniffer. Hello, fris my nik, rub my tit,
 cheese cake."
 
 Benadict: "Ohh. Indeed, indeed. I truely do respect a man
 with talent. Well, for my second question. Is it true, a man
 with your intelligence has inverted nipples?"
 
 Otto: "Boom, take a picture, of my armpit, so my belly
 button, won't be jealous"
 
 Benadict: "Ohhh! oooo. Ladies and Gentlemen, what an answer,
 Indeeeeed!"
 
 Otto: "oh a oh a o e A! paranoid, I dont make i-i-i-i-d-m,
 fuck idm, YOUR GONNA GET SMAKED DOWN!"
 
 Benadict: "Spoken like a true, hood, should. wow. Goly -
 gee."
 
 Unknown: "Hmm.. well my favorite cist buggers, ooo smells
 good, mmm tastes good, mmm...snack box fruit cake, system,
 wheat, system for breakfast mmm bacon and toe jam, toe jam
 and jelly frost
 
 Benadict: For my last question, I was wondering... do you
 have a high school diploma?
 
 Otto: "Your gonna get smacked. Can you tango, with a mango.
 Your gonna get smacked.
 
 And that bastard is gonna puke: Puke motha fucka, puke motha
 fucka, puke motha fucka. Motha fucka what. Motha fucka, PUKE
 MOTHA FUCKA, PUKA MOTHA FUCKA.
 
 Technological advancement, science, madness, they want some
 shit they can't understand, some shit their mom doesn't know
 about. Bring your calculator, its on.
 
 Lactating tittie... tittie"
 
 
 
 
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         |  roygbivcore
             from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-07-17 23:11 [#00784568] Points: 22557 Status: Lurker
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 | i puked for otto! 
 
 
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         |  weatheredstoner
             from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-07-17 23:47 [#00784574] Points: 12585 Status: Lurker | Followup to Portland: #00784553
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 | And I would have to agree with you! :) 
 
 
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         |  mimi
             on 2003-07-18 00:01 [#00784576] Points: 5721 Status: Regular
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 | i know they have their followings, but i never see them talked about on here:
 
 Autophonic from DUB Records
 Posthuman of SMAK fame, also the creators of Seed Records
 (the guys that brought us Ardisson)
 Claro Intelecto, probably the best new thing to come out in
 forever from Area Industries.
 
 
 
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         |  wayout
             from the street of crocodiles on 2003-07-18 00:28 [#00784579] Points: 2849 Status: Lurker
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 | morton subotnick- he was making electronic music just as bizarre and complex as the weirdest 'idm' artists of today
 as far back as the 50's and 60's
 
 louis and bebe barron- the forbidden planet score is still
 some of the coolest electronic music ever made.
 
 808 state - they were right up there with lfo back in their
 day, and were a big influence on the early warp stuff, but
 seem kinda overlooked.
 
 
 
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         |  spika
             from Poland on 2003-07-18 03:56 [#00784620] Points: 163 Status: Lurker
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 | Autocreation (Mettle) 
 Seefeel
 
 Locust (Weathered Well, Natural Composite)
 
 
 
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         |  alnuit
             on 2003-07-18 04:06 [#00784625] Points: 1113 Status: Lurker | Followup to teapot: #00784550
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 | teapot : Got to agree with you...definitely a great great two guys them...Utuba was a great track.
 
 
 
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