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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-10 10:52 [#00773076]
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this is my first composition in csound.
i designed the instrument (a filtered granular/fm hybrid synthesizer). all the different sounds come from this one instrument.
The score is about 4 pages of numbers.
Im rather proud of this, since I did it all from scratch, and I put much thought and effort into it.
But, beware, its very academic in nature...
anyways, enjoy!
Flora And Fauna
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-10 10:57 [#00773082]
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pretty neat.. whats csound?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-10 10:58 [#00773083]
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Ooh, I'm itching to get home and hear this! What's the path - you modulated your granular synth with a square / sine / whatever wave, or you're modulating one granular generator with another?
4 pages of numbers, yeesh... are there not tools to produce the bones of a csound score from a midi track?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-10 10:59 [#00773084]
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listening now....
I'm sure CSound is very flexible and powerful and all, but it would totally, completely and utterly ruin the fun of creating a track for me personally. I mean, to me making a track is still something creative but this would make it more of a science class. :S
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-10 10:59 [#00773086]
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csound is a text based synthesis program.
its arguably the most powerful synthesize available... because it has really no boundries. Like, by typing in that you want 100000 osscilators, you can have em.
And its free.
Just takes alot of learning!
Csounds.com
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2003-07-10 11:01 [#00773091]
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It sounded interesting the possibilities are definately there.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-10 11:03 [#00773097]
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its a granular synthesizer, and an FM synthesizer, and im merely multiplying the outputs together. If I added them, it would just sound like a granular and an FM synth being played at the same time, but by multiplying it, it becomes one sound.
and yes there are ways to use it with midi sequencers... but this, being our first composition, our teacher made it a requirment to use the score file (the pages of #'s)
eXX- yes, its a VERY different way of writing. But I kind of like it... you really gotta think... everything that is happening, is 100% meant to happen. I like that control (im a control freak when it comes to my music).
Its definately not for everyone.
However, more and more, people are making front ends for csound. Graphical interfaces, to make it easier to use.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-07-10 11:04 [#00773100]
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sounds cool im gonna check it out
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-10 11:10 [#00773118]
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That's cool. the sound is rich.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-10 11:11 [#00773122]
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thanks :)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-07-10 16:02 [#00773528]
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Interesting that it's very kcinsu-ish - your style really comes across in something generated from pages of text.
The bleeps and blips remind me of some of the analog synth tones from the Logan's Run OST.
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Nexus 6
from Netherlands, The on 2003-07-10 17:02 [#00773605]
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Hm, I'd rather use absynth. It's more easy to use and you'll have the same result.
this is a very usefull tutorial
I'm only saying this because I made a sound just like that and it only took me like 15 minutes to create.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-10 19:01 [#00773725]
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thanks man!
Its cool you think I have a disticnt sound... that my music is recognizable...
:)
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-07-10 19:08 [#00773728]
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hey Zeus...
I was at the Csounds site yesterday, and downloaded it and all. I do programming at school and i thought this sort of thing would be really interesting to try...
But I can't even really get started! I'll have to pick up the Csound book because none of the tutorials are in a step-by-step fashion. I hope I get the hang of it eventually...
:-s
Btw: I'll check your tune when I get home... :)
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-07-10 19:09 [#00773729]
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s'ok! have you considered sending your music to some computer game people? i reckon it would fit in quite nicely with some weirdo soundscape stuff :)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-10 19:10 [#00773730]
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good luck with it man!
It has a little bit of a hurdle you have to get over, to understand how it all works... like the method to it... it took me like 3 weeks to "get it", but just keep at it, and dont get intimidated by the book (its big, and complex looking with crazy numbers on the pages) but if you just take it step by step, I think youll get it
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-07-10 19:11 [#00773733]
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:)
no, cant say that though ever came across my mind... although it is a really good idea, as a carrer oppertunity... always good to have your options open!
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-07-10 19:25 [#00773746]
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cool, thanks. i'm not the sort of person to give up easily! ;)
the whole idea of it fascinates me... i mean, how the hell can a bunch of textual commands and a basic program create these endless possibilities?
it's hell genious! :-)
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drummond
from coffee, ahh, a burger, ahh on 2003-07-10 19:27 [#00773749]
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money makes the world go around the world go around the world go around...
;)
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Toejam
from Perth (Australia) on 2003-07-10 19:31 [#00773755]
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I worship the guys/gals who made the music for Sonic the hedgehog on Megadrive/Genesis and also those who made Toejam and Earl's funky beats...
Come to think of it, that music might have inspired me to appreciate electronic music ;)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-11 04:06 [#00774097]
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you are DAMN RIGHT about the Sonic tunes!!!
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-11 04:24 [#00774105]
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Zeus, very cool.
I downloaded the prgoram but, because i am simple, i am confused
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-11 04:34 [#00774108]
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This is sick
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-11 04:42 [#00774112]
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I'm using Csound too, not made any whole tracks that are any good yet, but I've used it to make loops/basslines that I use in my tracks.
Can't comment on this track as I have no headphones here :(
eXX: Csound certainly lacks the immediacy of something like floops or reason- not the sort of program to fire up when you wake up in the middle of the night and want to try to get a melody in your head down ;)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-11 04:47 [#00774115]
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That's exactly what I mean. I admit that the power and almost limitless amount of possibilities sounds very attractive to say the least but this way I think making music becomes more of a (yes this sounds cliche) brain thing than something that comes from the heart. It's like playing a real live instrument. You can put feeling and emotion in the way you play it, but this seems such a cold and scientific way of making music.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-11 04:48 [#00774116]
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Oh and BTW my opinion on this way of making music does not say anything about Zeus' track. I like it. :)
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