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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-07 12:54 [#00769648]
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On the news today here in the UK, they're planning on building a stretch of motorway of about 29 miles in length...and are planning to charge from what I head, £11 to go on it??!?!?
Whilst I was in Canada last year, in Toronto, each day we drove there, friends of mine pointed out this massive highway, that was practically new, and no one drove on it, 'cos it was a toll road! The road we were on was gridlocked. What a waste! :( One story I heard that made me laugh though, some granny used to go up and down it each day, and managed to evade being caught....she had her licence plate rigged she could flip it up to avoid detection!!
Do any of you guys live near these 'super' roads, and would/do you drive on them??
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-07-07 12:55 [#00769650]
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and people will pay the charge leaving the other roads clear for us paupers
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-07 13:03 [#00769661]
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Goddamit. Mother Fuckers piece of shit fucking crap. I already pay sodding Road Tax. I'm sick to death of fucking paying through the fucking nose for every little thing here. It's pissing me off. Oh and I can't get on MSN.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-07 13:06 [#00769664]
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And of course, not forgetting that they are charging (or going) to drive into the big cities?? It stinks doesn't it? :(
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-07 13:08 [#00769668]
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It does indeed stink. Stinks more than a tramp with incontinence.
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corticalstim
from Canada on 2003-07-07 13:19 [#00769683]
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when i read this title i saw it as "Highways/Motorways with TROLLS" and i laughed - "skyfarmer trying to mess with you on the highway?"
>:D
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-07 13:22 [#00769685]
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Can you imagine?? HEheheheh - we'd be dead!!
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-07 13:23 [#00769687]
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Guelph....hmmmm, that is familar...the people I stayed with in Canada live in Burlington, that is nearby isn't it?
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-07-07 13:29 [#00769691]
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Haha, same here :)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-07-07 13:32 [#00769695]
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You must be the absolute sweariest person on here! Congratulations!!
What's your MSN ad? :)
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-07-07 13:35 [#00769698]
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i read the title of this topic and thought it said "Highways/Motorways with Trolls" i laughed very much
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-07-07 13:37 [#00769702]
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oh dam, after posting the above post i went and read the whole topic and discovered that corticalstim did the same as me... i feel like a filthy dick
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-07 16:44 [#00770055]
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I'm so fucking proud :) I've added you to my list mate so I should pop up next time you appear on there :)
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-07 16:45 [#00770059]
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we dont have those around here, thank fucking god man, if we did.. no one would drive it, especially out west in the right wing side of the country.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 16:47 [#00770065]
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I think it's good. I was driving home from work today and the traffic was terrible... even on saturdays and sundays at 12pm the traffic is insane. There's too many poeple in my city and not enough roads. Maybe people would take the bus more or soemthing if they had roads you had to pay to use.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 16:49 [#00770072]
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We keep having children and over-populated our world and expect evrything to be free and have all these rights and freedoms... what can you expect? More people, more rules and regulations.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-07 16:51 [#00770077]
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theres a difference between what we should expect and what we deserve, we should expect expensive progress in society, but we dont deserve it, how things are are not how they should be.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 16:52 [#00770078]
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So what do we deserve?
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-07 16:54 [#00770082]
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More free monkeys?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-07 16:56 [#00770090]
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better than paying 10 dollars to ride on a fucking road in a supposedly free country, for fucks sake this is just stupid.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 16:57 [#00770092]
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Well then people should start being more efficient.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-07 16:59 [#00770096]
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we cant blame the governments policies and actions on the people who it governs? how does that make sense. we should be the leaders. democracy at its truest form, not this bullshit.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 17:01 [#00770100]
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Im not saying governments decisions are always right and democracy is bad.
Im saying there's a reason why that highway that costs $10 was made.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-07 17:02 [#00770103]
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only possibly, becuase no one fucking uses it, so why was it put there in the first place? for a need that doesnt exist.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 17:04 [#00770105]
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No one uses it because they have to pay. they'd rather sit in traffic for an hour on their way home and cause a buncha polution then pay $10. Or they'd rather have to even deal with all that then take the bus or ride their bike.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-07 17:05 [#00770106]
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£11 for 29 miles?! FFS!!!
is this an alistair darling idea?
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-07 17:10 [#00770121]
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yeah well you cant blame it on people who dont want to fuckin pay, who would? take the toll booths out. you cannot stop progress even if its bad, you have to alter to make good.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 17:17 [#00770141]
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Yea, but I can blame the people who aren't efficient and who waste a lot of natural resources because they're lazy or whatever other reason.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-07 17:18 [#00770144]
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sure , you can, but the government shouldnt have the right.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 17:20 [#00770149]
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just as much as people shouldn't have the right to destroy all we have left.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-07 17:27 [#00770162]
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These roads are a complete waste of the tax payers money! The money could be spent better on other things.
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corrupted-girl
on 2003-07-07 17:28 [#00770165]
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yeah and the tax payers are a complete waste of air and resources.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-07 17:28 [#00770166]
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Tax cheat are you?
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-07 17:35 [#00770173]
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I take that as a yes!! :D
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-08 04:05 [#00770460]
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hahaha
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:16 [#00770466]
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I think you're referring to the Birmingham Northern Relief Road (orbits Birmingham), the first private road in England.
£11 is the price for lorries not cars (under £5, I think?). Apparently the company that will run the road have put such a high price on lorries because they don't want them using the road -- they damage the surface and will cause more maintenance and higher running costs.
That road has been controversial since its inception. The Tories planned it and Labour said that it would scrap the idea if it got in power, they got in power but then built the fucker. There was some large scale protests during it's construction.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 04:21 [#00770469]
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If you were a lorry driver though, would you still drive on it?? I think it is taking the piss a little.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-08 04:31 [#00770476]
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Thank my company for that!
We own the Labour Party :P
Corticalstim: Yep, I thought that too!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-08 04:32 [#00770478]
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I bought Britian. it was 3 bux in the bargain bin.
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Peloton
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:35 [#00770479]
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Yeah, I'd resent paying £11 if I were a lorry driver. But tolls are the future, whether we like it or not. They're already talking about extending the congestion charge in London -- within a few years you'd have to pay to drive anywhere in the city. Transport Minister, Alistair Darling, has also flirted with the idea of putting tracking devices in ALL cars which could then be monitered by satellite and you'd be charged according to what road you used. Bit Orwellian, if you ask me.
I don't know what the answer is but there's too many cars in this country already. Fuck knows what it will be like in 10 or 20 years time.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:42 [#00770483]
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Park and Ride!
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 04:43 [#00770484]
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You were ripped off! ;)
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 04:53 [#00770496]
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I think if public transport was nicer (cleaner and such) many more people would use it. But the trains around here are filthy. Just imagine, if the trains were pleasant.....really comfortable...I'd use them!
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-07-08 04:53 [#00770497]
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no shit I was!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 04:55 [#00770500]
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I love public transport. Bring on the old biddies!
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-07-08 04:55 [#00770501]
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here in australia most of the main highways around the cities are tolled, I pay 5 bucksa a day toll going to and from work
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 04:59 [#00770507]
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I understand the principle of the scheme, but here in the UK we get screwed by how much fuel costs for our vehicles, get pay ridiculous Road tax each year, car insurance is not cheap......then they start charging you mega bucks drive into the city, where when you get there the car parks are an absorbitent price!! :(
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-07-08 05:00 [#00770509]
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I say anyone who drives a car should be slaughtered.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-07-08 05:02 [#00770512]
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You just use public transport then yeah? Don't you begrudge the ridiculous prices taxi drivers charge you though?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-07-08 05:04 [#00770516]
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"I don't know what the answer is but there's too many cars in
this country already. Fuck knows what it will be like in 10
or 20 years time."
My answer to the problem: Ban parents from taking kids to school in the car- it's amazing how much clearer the roads are in school holidays. Kids can use the buses.
Greater provision of flexitime- if people were going into and out of work at different times, the rush hour (read "rush two and a half hours") would be far less of a problem.
Greater implimentation of "Work at home" at least a couple of days a week for office workers. My job could be done at home quite easily and with the advent of comparatively cheap internet access it makes sense for the company.
Congestion charges type "tax" on drivers who don't need to use the car. Under 1 mile journey, you're not a cripple? You can walk... I need a car to get to work, there is no public transport, due to the comparative isolation of where I work it would not be cost effective to implement a public transport system. People in a position such as mine shouldn't be charged, people who make unneccesary journeys should be.
I don't believe public transport is the "ultimate answer"- our train services are already overcrowded, and the number of trains running is being reduced... coupled with the lack of reliability and frequency of travel, it's not really an option.
Only real solution is to lessen the population a bit- non-retroactive eugenics (joking! :OP), tax breaks for not having children (rather than for) having them, tighter immigration laws, deportation for repeat offenders in serious crimes, removal of NHS provision for fertility treatment- there are enough children that need adopting thank you very much, more roads, higher speed limits, more efficient dealing with crashes (rapid dispatch of photography team to take edivence in a crash while a clearnce team arrives and removes the wreckage from the road).
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