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Ok, so Ive scored my first REAL GIG (ie, just me on stage, doing my own music) my friend is going to do live visuals to my music too! Its august 5th, and will be at a bar in boston. Now, I need 1 hour of material... which I dont think I have right now (i have hundreds of hours of music... but not my newer stuff... as time goes by, I get more critical of my work... so I am less inclinded to want to play it live...) So... Im wondering: 1. should I do ambient, or glitch? 2. how should i perform it? ive never really performed electronic music alone before... and I wouldnt know how... because my tracks are so produced... and if i am playing them live... I have to figure out how to make all the different tracks run together.... how do i open the seperate tracks without having pauses in sound? bah!!! need your help! what do you think? my friend says i should just play mp3s of my stuff... but thats kinda cheap... |
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Hey - where are you playing? I'll check it out. I say mix up the ambient /glitch, actually where are you playing, that could make a big difference. As for seperating tracks I'd lower the volume a little or come up with segues(sp?) inbetween. GOOD LUCK |
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1. Do both ambient and glitch. It will keep peoples minds interested. Too much ambient will be to chill. Too much Glitch will be repetitive. A nice blend like an ebb and flow would probably be your best bet imo. 2. I can't really answer this myself. |
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Just playing mp3s is kind of lame. I've never played out alone, but I've played with bands and it's best to relax while you're up there. Is there anyway you can play stuff over top of your tracks? Like with your midi controller (I assume you use one) or something? Just to kind of give it a more "performance" feel. |
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I really have no idea how all this works, but you don't have to make your entire set flow together. I understand that most electronic artists do, but what's wrong with having distinct songs? |
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i have no idea about the actual songs you'll play live and all that, but to get rid of the problem of gaps between songs, you could have a media player waiting to play clips of other stuff you won't be playing. you could just hit 'play' on that, while you set up your next actual live track? did i make sense there? |
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this is kind of a help to me too - im doing a set for this record release party im involved in on new years in chicago - and i dont have any equipment at all :S i need to get a laptop - but dont know what to use :((( |
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Zeus I think you should play both like as the virginpusher said that will open both sides of your music,you should expose those 2 sides of yourself I still think your music is great Zeus..I know also that will be a little difficult to perform it live but it doesn't matter,because you must do something a bit different than the original stuff,u understand man...Maybe experiment with the Ableton live I've heard is a nice software for performing electronic music,what u think Zeus? |
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expect no one to show up, expect to make a mistake, expect someone to spill something on your shit, expect the sound guy to be a complete moron (if there even is a sound guy) expect people to come in and immediately turn around and leave, expect to get paid nothing, expect to hear your tracks really fucking loud! (hopefully) and expect that it's all up to you to make it a good time for yourself. |
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I like what you said here. Why not have seperate songs? You aren't striving to be an everyday "dj" here. I am guessing that you would like to be an artist, and as an artist you have seperate songs and/or compositions (depending on what you are going for). I am thinking that either having them flow together or keeping them seperate has benefits to them. It would be interesting hearing like 30mins of blended uninterrupted music, but by no means is there a foreseeable problem with seperate tracks. IMO |
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i can't give any advice. I haven't had a live show in 2 years, and at each of the three live shows I had, the amount of people there were below the double digits. Haha...I'm so pathetic. |
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Whip it out at some point in the show, maybe during some big crescendo. Be a Lizard King and give them something to remember you by. |
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I play solo shows quite a bit and I if you have good visuales you won't have a thing to worry about. other then the audience getting kinda bored, but hell, who cares. i just sit there and nod my head, always try a few new things to. make sure your patch/program/whatever you use live, has a good improvisational feel to it, so you can take your music were you want it to go. have fun |
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oh shit i didn't read the part about sound files, what do you use? |
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i like smyrma's idea of separate songs -- seems like such a simple thing that would be pretty cool. also, grab a keyboard or something and actually PLAY live instead of clicking around on a screen. |
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i play distinct songs, with quirky noises and ambience to bridge them together, i hate silence... but yeah, i just play my songs, and remix them live as i go... its cool and adds that element of improvisation. i highly recommend ableton live 2 i use it live, i also have 3 FL4's running as well for the improv stuff... you need to prep all that tho, have a file you can load into each one which automatically loads your favorite vsts and presets... |
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rockenjohno says dont be afraid to fsk it up! people Dig that :D |
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i been to a shit-load of laptop gigs in this neck of the woods and i've seen and enjoyed everything from distinct tracks bridged by live Gameboy music to full on art-installations with dueds in fancy dress. You know what the secret is? Looking like you know what your doing and people generally sense if the artist is enjoying it and thats the biggest plus i think........ you Yanks always come across as being sometimes ultra-confident so its nice to hear of someone with the genuine shakes!... you'll be fine, mate. Think of all those storys you hear about your fave artists first steps....be yourself and ..eh hem.. believe!.... |
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you could use abelton maybe |
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just do your own thing and try to enjoy yourself! you can never please everybody ,so worrying about what the crowd thinks has ta goooooo,....... Dunno what kind of bar you're giggin' in,.but hopefully they have a big ass soundsystem,.just to hear your music blasting full volume is what I do it for. I'll be travelling to Italy tomorow for a performance in Rome....will be sweet. Good luck with yours |
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"you could use abelton maybe" mm, but abelton live is really poorly optimized för Mac OS, it takes a lot of a PowerBook G4?s processing power... |
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i don't know anything about anything i'm sorry i tried |
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i use 2 pcs and a mixer to cut back and fourth between trks. course when i play live i do a whole new set specifically designed to be manipulated and mixed in a live environment. back in the day i would play tracks out of my software on my pc and inbetween trks i'd fade into some ambient bits and sound-collages chocked full of effects and weirdness.. this may be an option for you. have fun man. playing live is awesome.. but heed exillons advice. it could get hairy. one time i played live.. maybe my 3rd time and EVERYTHING that could have went wrond did go wrong. its was really embarassing and nerve-wracking.. so about 15 minutes into my set i just shut off all the music/gear and shouted out to the equally embarassed croud, "forget everything youve heard so far" i started a whole new set of on the fly craziness pieced together from beats of tracks and unfinished things and weird loops i drummed up inm real time.. played absolutely nothing i had intended to. the show turned out real good and the people loved it.. heheh. so prepare yourself for some suckyness but don't worry.. it should be fun no matter what. and a milestone for that matter. congrats on your gig and GOOD LUCK! :D |
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I think it's fair to say that a majority of the people there won't have heard one bit of your music at all. So get them interested by doing a cover of a well known song a couple of songs into your set. It's only fair to give them something they'll know. They may choose to stay on the strength of that! Do Play that Funky Music. It'd go down a treat. I'm serious here. |
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Or do a set on live, mainly with your own samples/loops, but chuck in the odd well known break/sample to give people something to latch onto... |
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The Amen Brother one ;) |
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don't play it live.. just pretend to |
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Judging by the thread on watmm recently that's not "recognisable" to most people '_' |
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:O I'm fucking shocked. |
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har! link? |
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Happy to . |
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Fucking hell that thread sucks. What a bunch of dicks! The bloke asked a good enough question and got flamed for it. FUCKERS! |
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I think ill do a mostly glitch set, cause I dont want people to get bored... ill throw some ambient in the middle somewhere... but I think its best to have beats for the people... So, I gotta month to get an hours worth together... gonna finish a bunch of unfinished tracks ive started. and spruce up my older tracks.... Havnt really done much glitch lately... but this is good incentive to finish my old songs! |
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i was thinking about using traktor... but its been crapping out on me alot lately... and now I cant even open it! :-S Live would make sense... but I really dont like the lay out of it... so I dont know... Ill have to think about this more oh yeah, and there will be like 2 other people playing... dont know what order though. My friend will play a set, but for my set, he is going to do live video manipulation, cause hes real into that too... so that should give my performance more of a boost... |
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Zeus, keep it simple... just amke sure you've got control oner the focal point of the track, then you can react and 'move the crowd' |
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amke!!!!! Make |
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oner!!!! Over my finkers are acting all sillee! |
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keep some amount of energy, at least early in your set. you want to get people's attention early. after you have their focus, then hit them with a few slower ones. Then you start to lose 'em add a little more energy. respond to your audience's needs. also interact with your audience. don't act all cold and distant. but don't act like a scared geek either like Moby. |
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and give away stickers or some shit. people fucking love stickers and they are cheap as shit. |
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how much for stickers? |
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12p |
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pounds? |
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i guess I should get my act in gear, and start making some nice CDRs... with labels and inserts etc... to sell for cheap at the show... |
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Give your local print shop a ring and ask if you could e-mail them a design or bring it in on CD, it'll be quite reasonable the cost.. |
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"i don't know anything about anything i'm sorry i tried" That wasn?t what I meant - I was just trying to tell zeus about what I have heard many mac users complain about regarding labelton live... |
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no its ok, roygbiv is just dumb and doesnt know anything. ;) |
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My advice: Don't screw up, it'll haunt you forever. |
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thanks... another question... will it sound like shit? I mean, ive mastered on my home stereo... so will putting it into nice big speakers, be all muddy and shit? playing on other sound systems is always scary.... |
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depends on whether you've eq'd the low end accurately, for the kicks to punch they should sit mainle between 100 and 150 khz, below that your bass frequencies will shake your trousers..also when you use cut up things it's hard to tell if you've got the tail end of some bass thing under there unless you hear it with a sub unit or you look at it on your computer. |
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Take a cd with you, containing a DJ set by a well known trance DJj. So, if everything fails, you can just play this cd, and keep the people entertained. |
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