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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 17:46 [#00759900]
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i bought hail to the thief today - i didnt hear the record before today
i posted something about not liking radiohead a few months ago and i bought this anyway (a special edition copy even hehe)...looks pretty stupid
anyway, i actually like 2 or 3 songs...the rest is pretty much just to fill in the space left - tho i might change opinion on this as well after a few more listens
i'd perhaps like it even better if it wasnt by radiohead-they are way over hyped imo (does it sound ridicuolus already?)
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:02 [#00759920]
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that CD gets better eveytime i listen!
keep listening, you'll soon see that EVERYSONG is a masterpiece, and NOT filler! =0)
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nacmat
on 2003-06-27 18:03 [#00759923]
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have you ever listened to the other albums?
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 18:04 [#00759925]
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No mate, they ARE over-hyped.
Don't feel ridiculous just because you try to understand what you appear to be missing that everyone else is into and you at first, were not.
But feel free to feel ridiculous if you then fly the flag just because everyone else is.
My own thought is this: popularity kills music for me. It's why I went into denial over Bob Marley and Nirvana. Maybe I'll find I do really like Radiohead in 10 or 15 years time if I'm still alive.
Hopefully not :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 18:05 [#00759927]
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yeah, i have their other albums - i enjoyed them once...i found it terribly boring a few months ago...im starting to like this album a little now...so perhaps i might enjoy them again
lecoeur-i certanly hope so
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 18:07 [#00759928]
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i find their last 3 albums so simmilar...its like listening to one song repetitively almost
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:11 [#00759935]
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I really don't believe radiohead is over hyped. I find them to be one of the only hugely popular musical units out there right now who have trully earned their hype.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 18:13 [#00759938]
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another thing - i'd like to see them live...perhaps that would make a difference
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-06-27 18:14 [#00759941]
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To me, they just sound a little BLAND after most other stuff i listen to. Low do the spinechillin emotion thing much better, BoC kick their ass on the floaty electronics, there's plenty of ppl out there with better voices than thom... i did used to like them a lot (first band i ever saw live) but it's waning now a bit.
Not heard the new album yet tho.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-06-27 18:22 [#00759951]
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I don't like their new stuff as much as their old stuff but there is no denying that they are very talented and I don't begrudge them any bit of the success they have had.
If you allow popularity to kill music for you then you are not really into the music in the first place, you are into the image that comes along with it.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:24 [#00759958]
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"If you allow popularity to kill music for you then you are
not really into the music in the first place, you are into the image that comes along with it."
My sentements exactly.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 18:25 [#00759961]
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ok...in that case i just dont enjoy their music much
i love nirvana - and they were like the most popular band in their time
i love massive attack, aphex, blur's last album, cardigans...so i guess it must have to do with music
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:25 [#00759962]
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I'de hope so.
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:34 [#00759974]
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long time no see fellas, how is everyone? I really enjoy this album, but I guess Im just waving the flag because everyone else is doing it, because I have to be cool!...What a dumb statement
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 18:37 [#00759981]
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what's new pussy cat? Whoaaaahhhoooo awhooa Whoaaaahhhoooo
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billabongbill
from Dublin (Ireland) on 2003-06-27 19:21 [#00760067]
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HTTT is a bit overrated imho. would have been a much better album if they had just removed the filler tracks (We suck young blood, I will, Wolves from the door) The rest is pretty cool tho. the gloaming would have been on that list too but the album version, as opposed to the rough internet version, eh, rocks.
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 19:22 [#00760069]
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I really enjoy this album, but I guess Im just waving the
flag because everyone else is doing it, because I have to be
cool!...What a dumb statement
If anything was dumb it was your lack of perception or inexperience of the FACT that there are people out there who have a list of musics that they think they should be into just so they appear to themselves/others that they have taste/are cool.
If you cannot grasp this I suggest you read Alexander Pope's Of The Use Of Riches, particularly the part about persons who collect libraries just for show.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 19:25 [#00760074]
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i was actually hoping for good music...it has nothing to do with being trendy
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-27 19:30 [#00760079]
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listened to there there for the first time today.
boring! Sounds like the last CD the Pumpkins put out, which was pretty bad.
It's sonic guitars, with obvious talent, but souless. That crooning gets old too.
is this the same band that put out Ok Computer?
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 19:32 [#00760082]
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If you allow popularity to kill music for you then you are
not really into the music in the first place, you are into the image that comes along with it.
That is true for some perhaps, but it's not always the case.
For me, I like to discover music for myself sometimes as well as have it recommended.
Well, a few years ago some persons I was hanging out with were into Beefheart. I knew little of his stuff at the time but it was rammed down my throat so much I couldn't enjoy it.
As far as Nirvana and Bob Marley go in my case, it is the fact that although I can see they were good, I found it hard to rave about them when their posters were on every bloody wall at university and there were people wearing their T shirts who didn't know their arse from their elbow when it came to music.
If you STILL don't see what I'm getting at, wait til AFX REALLY goes into the mainstream via one of those banks ads and TWAT FM plays a tune to death until you give in and look elsewhere cos of the foul taste in your mouth.
I love much popular music that is liked by many, so I don't think I'm being a snob, I'm just trying to describe some point about over-saturation or something.
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 19:34 [#00760085]
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Yeah Tolstoy, I understand that, I was just saying really for the benefit of others :P
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-27 19:37 [#00760091]
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just remember, it's a good thing to check something out that everyone else talks about and seems to enjoy, but if you've given it an honest listen and some time and don't like it, that is totally fine. don't ever feel pressured to like something cos everyone else does. i can't stand most beastie boys songs and i don't feel i'm missing out on anything. same thing really. even though radiohead are my favorite band and i can totally see why people wouldn't like them. it's just an acquired taste, and it either hits the spot or it misses.
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BlatantEcho
from All over (United States) on 2003-06-27 19:39 [#00760092]
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sage words from titsworth
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 19:40 [#00760095]
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i know, i was just kind of extending your comment :)
blatantecho - apperantly...i dont know
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 19:40 [#00760096]
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Yeah totally. I can't get the Beasties either :/
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 19:40 [#00760099]
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Oops that was directed at titsworth.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 19:43 [#00760107]
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well, i like beastie boys
thing about radiohead that bothers me is that there is really not much missing for me to like them (cos i like some other simmilar bands)...but apperantly that is enogug for me not to dig them
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 19:44 [#00760109]
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enogug=enough
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 19:54 [#00760138]
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That's probably why I don't like them: their stuff appears to have already been covered by two or three other bands already.. they remind me of a cross between Pink Floyd and The Smiths with maybe some other ingredients I can't think of right now.
I have to admit I haven't heard ALL of their stuff so what I just said would no doubt sound to an enthusiast as blatant ignorance..
The bottom line though is every time I hear that whiny guy sing I feel the urge to be violent towards him :/
As in: "Come 'ere so I can slap ya you whiny little bastard".
At least Morrissey had the decency to be witty..
Man I hate people who snivel and cry. If there was room on the life-raft for one more person I sure as hell wouldn't pick some sniveller upon whom one's life might depend.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-27 19:57 [#00760149]
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i hear a lot of influences in their music but no one, not even their imiatators, sounds like radiohead.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 20:00 [#00760156]
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blur's last album think thank comes quite close to radiohead imo
and the thing is i really like think thank
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-27 20:05 [#00760174]
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i don't agree.. i think blur and radiohead have their own distinct sounds, with blur being more similar to other bands than radiohead
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 20:06 [#00760175]
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Not heard Think Tank but I love Blur's music. You just might have put me off listening to it though :P
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 20:08 [#00760178]
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think thank is quite different to blurs other albums isnt it?
but yeah, perhaps they are different since i really enjoy think thank
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 20:08 [#00760180]
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dont mind me hehe
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 20:08 [#00760181]
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I think there's a lot of Beatles, Bowie and Madness in Blur's stuff, but they do it in a way that is like carrying on a tradition of great quirky English songwriting.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-06-27 20:08 [#00760182]
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the thing about radiohead is, it either strikes an emotional chord or doesnt. its not something you can very well rationalise. it reminds me of david lynch's films, it either clicks with you, or doesnt. sometimes people hate it, then all of a sudden love it. its strange. there are other artists like this too. i love thigs that grow on you over time. those are some of the best things.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 20:09 [#00760184]
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I really havn't listened to much blur, and sometimes get the feeling that I'm missing out on something. What would be a good first album for me to check out?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-27 20:10 [#00760186]
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want a dark and moody album? get '13'. for more fun rock stuff get self-titled or 'parklife'.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 20:11 [#00760189]
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definitely try their last - think thank one of my favourite releases this year
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 20:11 [#00760191]
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sometimes people hate it, then all of a sudden love it. its strange
Prince is/was a bit like that maybe.
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-06-27 20:12 [#00760196]
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me likes ze dark and moody shit, I'll giver a whirl. thanks.
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 20:17 [#00760207]
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Well corngrower, for imho a better option than Parklife but in the same vein go for Modern Life is Rubbish.
It was made just before Parklife, when they were darlings of the music press but the masses hadn't got it yet.
The production is most excellent and songwriting is similar in style to that of Parklife except perhaps a tad less radio friendly.
Just avoid most tracks on The Great Escape, as although there may be one or two good ones.. it's mostly stodgy and uninteresting.
(They made it just after winning loads of mainstream acclaim and that was the point at which Oasis took over - apparently)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-06-27 20:18 [#00760208]
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i listened to '13' fairly regularly from early 1999 to early 2002
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 20:20 [#00760209]
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and where are oasis these days?
there was like some big rivalry them and blur wasnt it? i always liked blur but i couldnt stand oasis-way too boring for my likings
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-27 20:22 [#00760213]
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ok...bed time...im missing out words :) and it is 4.30 am
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 20:23 [#00760214]
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Oasis only really did one true classic for me and that was Supersonic.
Wonderwall and the other so-called classics were just classics for people who think all kinds of things are classics ;)
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loopychoon
on 2003-06-27 20:24 [#00760215]
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3:30am here but thanks for the nudge :)
Nite
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-06-27 22:08 [#00760281]
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blur is nothing like radiohead, i dont see how anyone could compare aside from the both being british. think tank is a pile of shit, my god, and it sounds nothing like radiohead. just my opinion though, i dont seem to like httt as much as ok computer, kid a or amnesiac but it has its moments. its a solid album and everything is fine with it but theres still something missing, it seems that the lyrics on this album are too focused on specific things and cause the listener less interpretation, anyone else agree to that?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-06-28 07:08 [#00760592]
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im really interested in hearing in what way think thank is nothing like radiohead?
to me music sounds quite the same - melancholic melodies, electronic sounds, very simmilar interpretation by damon and thom...
perhaps the lyrics is different, but sound is quite simmilar
im not saying this for previous blur releases tho - those are different
its weird you say think thank is shit and radiohead are brilliant, cos there really isnt that huge difference imo
i love think thank, i like httt less - but still i dont think its bad - there are some nice songs on the album
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