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offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 12:17 [#00749484]
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i've been reading up on a genre called "Lowercase Music"
lately...

its alot like minimalism and ambient music... but it has
even more emphasis on silence, and quiet sounds.

There also seems to be alot of emphasis on recording
inaudible sounds, and editing them to be in human hearing
range (ie, a piece was done, recording an ant hill... not
possible for humans to hear... but when recorded at 192khz
sampling rate... you then down pitch it to a human hearing
level...)

It sounds really cool, and Id like to read more about it.

If anyone has any articles, or just any thoughts on it, id
love to hear/read!

thanks!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-06-20 12:20 [#00749486]
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can you tell us of some artists that fit into this genre?

time hecker could be close to this and i love his music...


 

offline Donutman from Perth (Australia) on 2003-06-20 12:21 [#00749487]
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Where can I find some of this stuff? Any names that are
associated with it?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 12:22 [#00749489]
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from allmusic.com:

The end of the XXth Century and beginning of the 2000s saw
the rise of a new interest in minimal forms of music.
Old-school minimalists like Morton Feldman and Alvin Lucier
enjoyed a renewed level of appreciation among a younger
generation of avant-garde music fans. Concurrently a handful
of new approaches and esthetics appeared in avant-garde
circles that followed a common decision to strip down the
music to its bare essentials. Instead of attacking the
listener with barrages of sounds, more and more artists
decided to offer limited sound events and invite their
audiences to scrutinize them more closely.
The term "post-minimalism" assumes a generic role here. Two
of its strongest incarnations developed among electronic
music and free improvisation. The word "lowercase" stemmed
from electronica but quickly spread to the realm of sound
art to designate any music focused on silence, contemplative
sounds, and minimal events. Composers like Steve Roden,
Bernhard Günter, Carl Michael von Hausswolff, and John
Hudak work with only a few sound sources, often only a
single tone that is modified over long stretches of time.
Sachiko M reintroduced the use of sine waves, going back to
the historical basics of electronic music.

At the same time that avant-garde electronic artists were
striving to do "less with less" (some would designate it as
the post-post-modern era), free improvisation circles were
undergoing their own transformation. The idea of an
introspective, scaled-down, silence-driven instead of
sound-driven improv is not new — it was the basis of John
Stevens' teachings in the late 1960s. But a level of
abstraction unheard before emerged in the late 1990s. Some
improvisers, like Axel Dörner, John Butcher, Franz
Hautzinger, Günter Müller, and Werner Dafeldecker, began
to leave more and more room between sound events and
abandoned the use of notes to favor drones, electronically
altered events, and most of all tongue and saliva noises
channelled through their instruments, walking a th


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-06-20 12:22 [#00749490]
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thats tim hecker


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 12:22 [#00749491]
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walking a thin line between the "something" and the
"nothing." This approach of the instrument as an extra limb,
an extension of the improviser's body, instead of an
artifact manufactured to produce music, was epitomized by
the groundbreaking CD The Contest of Pleasures by Dörner,
Butcher and Xavier Charles, and the eponymous release by
Dachte Musik (led by Hautzinger). — François Couture


List of Key Artists

John Butcher
Dachte Musik
Axel Dörner
Filament
Bernhard Günter
Franz Hautzinger
Sachiko M
Günter Müller
Steve Roden



 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 12:23 [#00749492]
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i havnt heard any of these people yet... so far my knowledge
of this genre is all through reading articles


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-06-20 12:24 [#00749495]
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hmm, dont know any of this guys...

but this "often only a single tone
that is modified over long stretches of time" sounds very
much like what tim hecker is doing - and it is my favourite
ambient music at the moment, really brilliant stuff


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 12:25 [#00749496]
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i need to hear tim hecker...

sounds good!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-06-20 12:25 [#00749497]
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and i'd expect some japanese people in that list...they do
this kinf of things


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-20 12:26 [#00749498]
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i made a whole album of silence once, never released it
though. If you dont speak and listen, you can sometimes hear
it playing in the background


 

offline aphextriplet from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-20 12:27 [#00749500]
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it has a massive underground following.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-06-20 12:27 [#00749501]
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i'd recommend you to check his haunt me... album - its his
most minimalistic i think
and btw, if you check the sonar thread you can see that some
people really liked his live performance (me including)


 

offline Donutman from Perth (Australia) on 2003-06-20 12:28 [#00749502]
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John Cage already did that.


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-06-20 12:28 [#00749503]
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UPPERCASE here mate! Hehehe


 

offline Donutman from Perth (Australia) on 2003-06-20 12:32 [#00749511]
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Damn! I really want to hear this stuff now. I wish there was
something like it on Kazaa right now.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-06-20 13:09 [#00749548]
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slsk has some john butcher and phil durrant


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 13:54 [#00749575]
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bah, i had to do something at work, and forgot to post this
link...

its another article on it, and has links to several mp3s...

havnt listened yet, seeing as Im at work...

Link


 

offline Portland from San Diego (United States) on 2003-06-20 14:53 [#00749613]
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the microsound list was/is big into this for a bit.



 

offline jingle from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-20 15:08 [#00749622]
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if you convert the brainwaves of dolphins into soundwaves it
sounds like music but spead down: this is because radio
waves from stations are picked up by the dolphin's sonar
organs or something. it had a little thing about it on
discovery.

also the brainwaves of humans can be converted into
soundwaves similar to the music they are concentrating on.
this is exciting cos it allows someone to get the sounds one
can imagine directly interpretted into digital sound....cool


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:19 [#00749634]
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I think everything you just said is bullshit.

I dont know about the dolphine thing... but the brainwaves
thing is definately bullshit. where do you hear that? or are
just being sarcastic?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:26 [#00749639]
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i listened to those examples in that link i provided...

it was nice...

but i had to pump up my volume to hear it over the hum from
the airconditioner unit outside my window...!


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 15:33 [#00749644]
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This thread is gay.

These talentless gimps invent a new name for their shit
music so that pseudo intellectual knob jockeys will start
masturbating over it.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:36 [#00749647]
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i was waiting for one of those responses... suprised it took
so long actually...


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 15:39 [#00749650]
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Well I didn't mean you specifically, but if you found out
their was a new type of music called rectumramming which was
the sonic study of gas escaping from peoples behinds, and
one of the examples was done my someone called Rudolph
Schitzoid, you would say you found it interesting and
challenging.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-06-20 15:40 [#00749654]
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what if afx or ae done it would you say the same


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 15:42 [#00749659]
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I dunno if you have read my posts but when it comes to music
I call a spade a spade. If I don't like something I say I
don't like it, I don't pretend to like it just because
everyone else does, and I don't beleive in the creation of
new genres just because you don't have the talent to get
recognised in the general music spectrum.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-06-20 15:43 [#00749660]
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That's a little TOO lowercase for me, the clips in that
Wired link - I like things not much more minimal than
this

(listen to inhale)


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:43 [#00749661]
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you didnt mean me specifically...

but if "you" found out there was a new music.... "you" would
say you found it interesting...

so was that directed at me then? or not specifically.

I just think its damn cool that people are sampling
inaudible sounds, and putting them into our hearing range.

and i liked what i heard of those samples. relaxing... you
concentrate on the music much more...

think what you want man.



 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:45 [#00749665]
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i dont see what any of that has to do with me?

I read about the music, and thought it sounded interesting.
so shot me?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 15:47 [#00749670]
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Sadly I live too far away to be able to do that.

How do you know they have sampled inaudible sounds? They
might have just messed about with a sample until it sounded
as though it might have been inaudible to start with...then
they put it on a website for people to be amazed at.

Besides I am just winding you up :D


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-06-20 15:48 [#00749674]
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the idea of ant hils woring sounds good but just hearing
isnt enough it would work better with the visual
micro life in full glory


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:49 [#00749676]
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you enjoy being a dick then?


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 15:50 [#00749677]
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No I enjoy winding you up...it is like walking up to a
spastic and pulling faces at them...good for a laugh to see
their reaction but ultimately meaningless.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:52 [#00749680]
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youre a real stand up kind of guy


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 15:53 [#00749681]
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Cheers ;)


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-06-20 15:54 [#00749683]
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if sounds are out of the human spectrum of hearing, they are
not meant to be heard. perhaps this is ultimately rather
dangerous.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 15:55 [#00749684]
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yeah, cheers trolly troll troll boy


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 15:56 [#00749687]
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why are you calling earthleakage a troll? I thought that
was a valid point to raise.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 16:00 [#00749691]
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so... any particular reason your just started being an ass
to me today?



 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-06-20 16:00 [#00749692]
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do you mean the ketal talking about you to the toaster and
stuff


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 16:01 [#00749693]
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yes, yes there is, but it is personal and I can't go into it
on a public message board.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 16:02 [#00749695]
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kcinsu@kcinsu.com

in looking forward to reading all about it


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 16:06 [#00749696]
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Not personal about you...you just gave me the opportunity.
It is personal as in I cheated on my girlfriend, and the
girl I cheated with has given me a nasty infection which I
have given to my girlfriend...and now she won't speak to
me...so I am in a wierd mood.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-20 16:07 [#00749697]
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I'll tell you on here, I don't care. You're just a bit of an
arse really, aren't you?


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-06-20 16:10 [#00749702]
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please give reasons.

besides the fact that your little god paul didnt like me,
and you are just tagging along.

i started a thread on music... this is what being an arse is
like is it?



 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-06-20 16:13 [#00749704]
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Boring...do you ever smile and have fun, other than in
photo's where DJ Shadow is flipping you the bird?


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-06-20 16:14 [#00749706]
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"My little god" heh. I make a friend and everyone assumes
that I suck his cock. I didn't require someone else to point
out what I dislike about you, just as I'm sure you don't
need one of your many fans to point out what you hate about
me. Anyhoo, cheerio.


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2003-06-20 16:14 [#00749707]
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i can hear them. my pot is racist, he keeps calling the
kettle black.


 

offline nobsmuggler from silly mid-off on 2003-06-20 16:16 [#00749709]
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:)


 


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