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no mate acid house was around in 87 before afx was around - as for doing songs in the style of afx - that's just it isn't it he can still do it one step ahead - it's not about style . and of course a/e have a marketing style - it's very clear what they're about - theyr're stylish in their facelessness, they've been copied massivleyt there - there are loads of a/e copyists out there too - same assd afx but both of them keep well ahead of the game thru sheer talent. 26 mixes for cash is a load of remixes done for cash - simple as that.. |
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true to all you say except; wasn't aphex around before '87, musically? I mean I have the saw1 saying 85-92 ;P But seriously, if aphex used richard d james as artist name and had no logo, his music may not have come to my attention because it wouldn't have "boomed" on all fronts like it did now. Sure the music would have still been the same and he would be signed and have a good carreer, but without the name and logo it would have lost interest marketing-wise because it wouldn't have had that edge it has now. Say aphex twin and imagine the logo, now say richard d james and no logo. I know what appeals to me more, it just works that way. Which brings us back to evolume's comment on good marketing. |
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yes exactly, this is why i qualified this assertion: he was doing acid house before it was around... but he was not doing it in the clubs... |
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why noone can admit that aphex is just a well balanced product ? |
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because it's not true, it's also fucking good musik |
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thats honest and true. i became introduced into idm with windowlicker video and a freind who had ctd and wl on cd. these albums stood out with sheer brilliance and i dont think anyone did similar before... so does rdj-album. it was the "show" that cuaght the eye, but my brain decided for if its good music after i got all his stuff on mp3. and most of his music IS good. if we hadnt seen the clip i would not have bought any idm and would still only listen to ragga, jungle and hiphop. and for ae, it might be a matter of taste, (i also like jazz) but ae bores me (what i heard). |
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ok, you are missing my point. of course tatoo's have nothing to do with the quality of music. of course shows and marketing have nothing to do with music being good. all i have said is that afx has brought the genre to a larger audience than Ae could have on their own. you said it yourself, "watch on AE - they are non-,marketing at all" i actually don't like 26 mixes for cash that much. but i think the title of that album was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek; a sarcastic realization of his own super-stardom. and i think drukqs is excellent. its very respectable to me that he would put all of that anti-pop piano stuff on there (which i think the process he used to create it to be quite innovative.) but i agree it's not his best work. i did see afx live many years ago. his show was not excellent either, but it was much better than Ae. He played recognizable songs but was obviously tweaking them live. He also had some dancing bears on stage with him. While i admit, these kind of theatrics are silly and have nothing to do with music, it at least made his music more accessible to people in the audience who had never heard of him. It showed his sense of humor and gave the people something to relate to. on a side note, maybe its just your English but you seem to be getting kind of hostile. I just want you to know, hyakusen, that i have no malice toward you, so there is no need to be so defensive. |
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A well balanced product? It's all sound so just take that shit to your head and enjoy it. If you nibble on every little courner you can go on for hours about nothing. Just listen to the sound and enjoy it man not take it to bits. |
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hey hey hey , did i say that this music is bad ??? read all messages !!!!! i never said that this music is baaad . all i'm saying is that afx is just product , and his music has no deep as ae music .that's all |
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hey hey hey , did i say that this music is bad ??? read all messages !!!!! i never said that this music is baaad . all i'm saying is that afx is just product , and his music has no deep as ae music .that's all |
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maybe it is my english |
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afx is good because afx is good... i go through music like you wouldn't believe, and if afx weren't so goddamned good... there's not a chance in hell that i would still be listening to it... i used to love NIN... now i can hardly ever listen to the fragile, or any of his work... cause the lyrics are so cumbersome... (it's still decent... but you get the idea)... AFX is not a tried and true product... he is a musician whose work is transcendent of concrete ties... |
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and maybe it is that "everybody are saying that afx is great visioner , great musician and he makes trends" . it is bullshit for me. Christina aquillera is visioner too , because of her hears. |
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All music has it's place. Wouldn't it be great if you didn't know who made any of the music that was out? All record collections would be unique and you could get on with enjoying and experiencing it. }:> I'm spliffing out to Nightstick atm. |
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i do think that confield is the most forward album to be released to date... but i would adamantly disagree that ae's music is more deep than afx's... i love every release under his Aphex Twin moniker... i cannot say the same for AE... |
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hes just a person who knows how to do brainwash to people like you , my dear fellows. you are victims of all those marketing moves - more , you are victims who talk about crime but dont think that's crime , and this is veeery bad veeer bad |
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cool man, your english is great and this has been an intriguing discussion none the less. |
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i love every release under his Aphex Twin moniker... i cannot say the same for AE... - so that's why music of ae is not deeper ? interesting m really , |
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uhh... all iknow is that i've been listening to SAWII for almost 10 years. longer than any other album in my collection. marketing or not, its fucking great. |
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who is this 'aphex' fellow everyone keeps talking about, anyways? i keep hearing the name, and people keep recommending his music but i've yet to find time to listen to it, is it an animal a plant or a mineral? |
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i'm cool man - i'm very cool . |
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i love the DJ |
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good one , man , point for you |
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woopy, what do i get when i collect 400? a pony? i hope it's a pony! |
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i sense that you are really hung up on the title of his latest release... it's a silly joke that's all... is there elements of truth in it? yes... he does make cash by releasing this album... does that mean that he didn't put love into the making of these remixes... i doubt it... but even if that were the case... if it's good why do we care? -as for claiming that we like afx because we are victims of marketing... i really don't give a crap about marketing... i could have his entire collection on mp3... and still love it... don't confuse your subjective preference for superiority of taste |
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It's the way he does it that matters. |
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cool me - i hate afx , but i like some of his works . still i think that he's making bizness with you all. |
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pardon - you dont know what kind of bizness it is , yet he will give another 26 mixes from nowhere , maked few years ago , and you will buy it , whatever , whenever |
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i'm alone with my thinking , so it means that i'm right |
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because we love what he has to offer... and as a matter of fact i didn't buy this one anyways... not that that's the point at all... and don't pretend like if there's a release that you wouldn't check out if ae put it out.... would you buy it automatically? maybe not... but it's a pretty lofty assumption on your part to assume that everyone who buys afx buys it because it is afx, and doesn't care what it sounds like... |
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To think if I hadn't of lost my job I'd be posting on this every day instead of going out and trying my best to get involved in music. Makes you wonder if it is worth it at times I bet. It fucking is like but y'knah.. No marketing, i had to hunt for these sounds and I only buy what I like. If he was making business out of us all he could do way more repressings. Play braindance to my friends via mix tapes and they all love the sound devoid of all product. |
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i'm alone with my thinking , so it means that i'm right |
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later i will give you part of interview with him. you will see what i'm taking bout |
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curious ? after this intervew i said to myself that i fuck afx. |
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I think he has better taste. |
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... yeah afx is a bit of a marketing whore... but then- so is ANYONE in the entertainment industry, if you think about it, and at least he's actually got talent unlike all those damned pop stars |
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ae > afx ae > * |
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I like AFX. AE, Merzbow, Nightstick, Vromb, Scooter and whoever the fuck else I like because when I hear them i'm satisfied by the sounds and can enjoy them many times. |
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but do you like me ? |
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Indifferent |
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(vague last word attempt here) |
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in afx there's no mystery , you have anly melodies , or crazy beats . nothing more |
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no mystery? i could say the same thing about Ae. Its just a lot of crazy noise and reverb. no form or function. If you can't shake your booty to it then what good is it to me (i'm joking obviously) but really, they are just two radically opposing styles and both are interesting in their own respects. though now we are getting off topic. |
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no form or function ?????? god , we should really get off topic cause we are on another planets , if i read what i read ( i bet you could say the same :) ) let your kind live in peace p.s. i 'm sorry if you felt attacked by me - didnt want to be rude, just very offensive way of live like samurai |
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*blushes |
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i did say that i was joking. just pointing out that different people look at music in different ways. |
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i like rdj and ae, but ae has made whole records that i dislike whereas rdj has not. |
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I'd say AFX has TONS of mystery... I have no idea what he's going to do next after Smojphace... and I don't even know what THAT will sound like. I have a very good idea what direction the next AE will go... And mystery in the other sense... well, I think his songs are deep as fuck, I always hear new things every listen. There's a lot going on in those mixes, with both parties. |
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