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bla bla bla i like you guys , fine talking, even your disqusting love to afx is not disturbing my selfish ae mind. point for me - ha ha ha , i really will put this fuckin interview here , believe me |
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no no ae are better than afx believe me , we can bet |
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dont get me wrong-all the releases around "chiastic slide" were fucking amazing, but, what was that one album called? cornwell? cornfeld? corny crap if u ask me. there are no rdj releases that are collectively shitty, and that's that. |
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fuck me for no liking afx , what is this , gathering of richards ? hell i want to be eaten by you , you sound like those monster from come to daddy clip |
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eat me im prepared to die for my ae gods |
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WE are the music-makers, And we are the dreamers of dreams, Wandering by lone sea-breakers, And sitting by desolate streams World-losers and world-forsakers, On whom the pale moon gleams Yet we are the movers and shakers Of the world for ever, it seems. With wonderful deathless ditties We build up the world's great cities And out of a fabulous story We fashion an empire's glory One man with a dream, at pleasure, Shall go forth and conquer a crown And three with a new song's measure Can trample an empire down. We, in the ages lying In the buried past of the earth, Built Nineveh with our sighing, And Babel itself with our mirth And o'erthrew them with prophesying To the old of the new world's worth For each age is a dream that is dying, Or one that is coming to birth. If all Mr James had ever created was "IZ-UZ" he would still have said more in that track than a 1000 autechre's ever will. |
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i agree |
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youre right , i was stuopid to lkie ae , now i know that i make mistake !!! long live afx !!! |
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ae will never be as melodically correct as afx. they are trying too, too hard to sound "new" and "different". i think they have the potential to be soooooo much better. i think they are on too many drugs....maybe not enough!!!! |
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if ypu like afx give your ass likely stiks put it in put in up you will glidely pull out crap after morning after dark ae always sings good mark if u dont want to be stupid buy a stolen figure of cupid If all Britney had ever created was "take me honey" she would still have said more in that track than a 1000 afx's ever will. |
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but i do absolutely love all the old ae. amber-anvil vapre-outstanding! but they are no afx! |
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don't get mad at me because afx is better than autechre! |
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gimme gimme afx gimme gimme slicy stiks bubblebath coming in analouge , make it spin comme to daddy come to mummy i will eat you yummy yummy |
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ae likes afx's music. |
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well i dont know , they never told me that |
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afx paved the way for ae. can u say that that isn't true. |
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it isnt true , make your own words , dont type what was said before |
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afx stinks like onion |
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this thread wasn't about who is better (which is subjective anyway and hence a pointless debate) This thread was about whether or not AFX is an innovator and whether he has contributed anything new to music. To say that he has not is pure ignorance, whether you like him or not. Read any AFX review, Read the heaps of interviews by countless artists in dozens of different genres. You can see his influence in new hip hop(see timbaland), indy rock (see Radiohead, the Notwist, Postal service...), metal/industrial (see NIN), techno, even fucking boy bands (listen to n'sync's latest and tell me BT hasn't taken a lesson from afx no matter how perverted). like it or not, afx has contributed emmensly to contemporary music. its a fact. |
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for me like i said before he is still part of very sofisticated machine called AFX Merchandise Shop i dont think that number of artists who was influenced by him makes him innovator innovator nakes something new, not someone who is called as innovator |
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*nods head in total agreement* |
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the beginning of this thread was so good, why did you have to mess it up, hyakusen .-) seriously, lets get back on discussing styles or development and not on likes of one another. btw: unseenmachines poem is nice. is it an actual lyric? if not it should be performed by squarepusher, did he even got mentioned in this discuss so far? |
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best thread in months... imo for me he is a genious with melody |
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thats short but i agree. melody in love :) |
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your such a fucking wanker. |
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not only does someone have to make something new to be considered an innovator, innovation is also reinventing and revolutionizing. all of these things AFX has done with music. Shall we grab a dictionary? this is getting silly. |
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do you think? i think it's exactly the kind of stinky-shirtty topics with peoples arguiing about things that don't matters, and OMG the numbers of false and stupid things said troughout ! never ever the best topic , + there's many like this one deeper buried here... |
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heh Amether will be surprised how many reaction he got on his first topic :) |
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the aphex myth was the creation of wanker music journalists who had never heard of house till the KLF exoplded like a truckload of smelling shit in their face...and then they licked it up. So I guess the whole Aphex myth is just that...a myth. But that does not take away from the fact that he is a master craftsman with a ear for melody and a love of noise. And a dance music producer par excellence. 20 years later we still listen to the beach boys and the beatles. 20 years from now, they will listen to Aphex the same way. This does not in anyway make Aphex a Brian Eno or a stockhausen. But it does make him a great pop music maker. And thats what he is. Selleable, commercial, but not disposable pure pop. Forget the myth and enjoy the music. |
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aphex sounds good ae sounds good too! they both sound good! |
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the whole ae vs twin thing is ABSOLUTELY retarded. try to step outside your four corners for a second and realise that music is not a sport, ok? its not competitive. if you think it is, youre not getting much out of it. you preffer someone's work in general? fine. but as far as superiority or claiming a territory on behalf of these people is ABSOLUTELY CHILDISH. sorry for sounding preachy, but give it up already! qut this rating system garbage and ENJOY IT UNCONDITIONALLY. music is freedom, in so many ways. yet some see fit to cage it. |
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the first 50 posts were very interesting for me... thats what I can say and the first post was very nice to start a nice discussion |
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Nobody does it better Makes me feel sad for the rest. Nobody does it half as good as you. Baby, you're the best. I wasn't lookin' but somehow you found me. I tried to hide from your love light, But like heaven above me the spy who loved me Is keepin' all my secrets safe tonight. And nobody does it better Though sometimes I wish someone could. Nobody does it quite the way you do. Did you have to be so good? The way that you hold me whenever you hold me. There's some kind of magic inside you That keeps me from runnin' but just keep it comin' How'd you learn to do the things you do? And nobody does it better Makes me feel sad for the rest. Nobody does it half as good as you. Baby, baby, darlin' you're the best. Baby you're the best. Baby you're the best. Baby you're the best. Darlin' you're the best. Darlin' you're the best. Baby you're the best. Baby you're the best. |
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exactly |
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Yes. I am surprised. Cor. Must go back and read them ALL now... And yes, Ae vs Aphex is a little silly (I Stockhausen may seem to many to be rather pointless, but think Raymond Scott, Bruce Haack - what Bruce Haack was making in the 60s sounds like Acid House... When I saw Aphex live (well, DJing) at Dedbeat 2002 he was one of the worst people there... an hour of shitty jungle. Really quite crap. And I would agree, if it weren't for Aphex - bedroom DJs wouldn't be half as good as they are. ICBYD is great but RDJ I would hardly call innovative...??? |
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i can't believe you can say that with a straight face man... (albeit a skushed one) just because someone doesn't fancy something like the RDJ album doesn't change the fact that NOTHING SOUNDS LIKE IT if aphex is not to be remembered as one of electronic music's innovators... then i ask you who? you can pull just about any name from contemporary techno... and none of them come close... oftentimes one finds Afx's fingerprints all over them... there were 2 innovators in this past decade: afx and ae... both are fantastic mind bending artists... both wield sounds which are unique beyond reprove... |
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the thing is that there are so many bands out there creating original material, always breaking new ground, its up to people like aphex twin to take the best out of all and create a marketable, sellable on a larger scale album to get out to people like me who got into ambient techno etc, thru aphex twins big name, now i am stuck in low-fi no-name band heaven, and i like it |
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give me one name that comes close to afx or ae and i will be your friend for all eternity |
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better yet, give me the names of the so many bands out there that are really creating original material, and always breaking new ground. |
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A name that come close to Ae or AFX- FSOL? Hi-Fi electronic music. The problem with Afx, is that - well, sometimes (although not recently apart from the remixes on Cash which are old) there are... well... mistakes. Autechre's LP5 is an utterly astounding piece of electronic music. SAWII is as well, but in terms of technique, and concepts contained in each piece - LP5 is very special. And when you think the Dr Who theme was created in the 60, everything else just looks silly in comparison. I have heard that Chris Cunningham actually had ... an important influence on the music of Windowlicker - being a musician himself... There's a compilation - OHM- Gurus of Early Electronic Music... lots of fucking good stuff. Holgar Czukay (from Can)'s Boat Woman Song makes IDM sound so lame it makes me cry. |
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ok , let it be - afx has great influence on others , but now he's innovating like shit - last innovating thing that he created was "comme to daddy" , ceause i think that druqgs and mixes are just ...normal ? and i dont think that's a complement to person like him |
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And his piano thing (sticking things in the strings) was around at least 50 years ago... |
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heh it's like that : when i listen to afx albums i'm never suprised when i'm listening Ae - i'm waiting with mystery in eyes and ears - what these guys are going to do in next song.... ....this is what afx haven't got on any album |
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Aren't we the ones creating the hype? Imagine how boring life would be with 13 Ae's and 14 Afx's Of course their music is different and it's all a matter of personal taste. If you don't like an album then don't buy and certainly dont download it. You don't HAVE to buy it... |
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there is definitely mystery to the twin. he wont even release his best/weirdest/most original stuff so we haven't heard the whole of him. theres nothing wrong with being more commercial - in some ways thats more of an achievement. |
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I've never really known what to make of this "I won't release my best stuff because I don't want people ripping me off..." thing - sounds like empty promises more than anything... I mean - what COULD it be, that's so great (I guess that would be the point though- that it's SO new and SO great...) and why would he not want to - it is certainly true he's a/the influence behind Radiohead/Notwist styleee things, and a great deal other pop/rock... I dunno, he could be just full of shit, and I guess that's the point. A friend of mine -after we had been discussing the downward Aphex Spiral- had the genius idea of finding him at a concert, just tapping him on the shoulder and saying "Look, you're trying too hard, mate..." To me that just kinda summed up the problem. :) |
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i dont know if he's inovative or not, but he's definitely the best electronic musician in the last 10 years or so... |
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for me it's pretty simple. I have never heard any AFX that really surprised me. lots of ae I have heard has surprised me. does sound to me like people are a bit too hung up on the "melody"-thing - if there isn't a melody, it isn't good music, or even worse, it does not have emotion. bullshit, ofcourse. all music is just a set of sounds. you do NOT need melody to convey emotions. |
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and the AFX-hype was indeed started by irritating journalists and after that hungrily fed by AFX himself (dishing up ridiculous lies). but I think the myth is now being kept alive by his fans - a new release is coming? DROP EVERYTHING! etc. |
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Word. |
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