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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2003-07-11 07:32 [#00774241]
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never heard of him. do you know which club they signed him from?
the other one: you mean kevin hofland :D he's quite good but he's just coming back from a disastrous injury which kept him sidelined for basically the whole season. wait and see if he's lost his talent in the process :|
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-11 07:37 [#00774246]
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dont know which club he came from a swiss one i think
sorry kevin i got him mixed with matt holand irish player
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-11 07:57 [#00774254]
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i like marquez very much, you will have a strong defense with puyol-marquez.
Real Madrid is adviced...
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nacmat
on 2003-07-19 05:22 [#00785978]
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ronaldinho goes to Barça!
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-19 05:26 [#00785985]
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man u gave a 6pm (gmt) deadline for the signing
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nacmat
on 2003-07-19 05:27 [#00785988]
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what do you mean?
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-19 06:46 [#00786017]
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i think theyt have had enough of being fcked about by ronnies agent and himself
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-07-19 09:09 [#00786099]
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Any of you guys want mikel arteta? You're welcome to him. Mono-browed twat.
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nacmat
on 2003-07-19 18:43 [#00786731]
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I think he is a good player... why?
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nacmat
on 2003-07-20 05:01 [#00787118]
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overmars....kluivert....cuaresma ..............ronaldinho................. .......cocu...............xavi............ ¿?.........marquez......¿?.....puyol .................rustu......................
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-21 05:27 [#00788060]
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LOL, I won't start, I promise...!
(Two words...painful....rejection) ;-)
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-21 13:36 [#00788540]
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i love arsenal not man u dont tar my good name
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-22 02:26 [#00789109]
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Then you're a fine upstanding gent by me! :-)
P.S. I'm wearing Arsenal socks today...don't ask! :-)
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-07-27 16:19 [#00795827]
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the Barcelona-Juventus tilt just ended... Barca won on penalty kicks... Juve has got to make some personnel moves if they want to be competitive with the big teams this year... Trezeguet played like shit again... i haven't seen him play well in a long time... they need to deal him away and free up some room for a marquee forward... del piero can't do it on his own... and even though Di Vaio did come through with 2 clutch goals in under 90 seconds at the end of the game to tie it up... i don't think he's the man to replace trezeguet... i miss the days of Inzaghi-Del Piero... when one wasn't scoring... the other was...
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nacmat
on 2003-07-27 18:26 [#00795938]
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and what about barcelona?
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-28 01:29 [#00796234]
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What the hell is a clutch goal??
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-28 01:33 [#00796237]
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im wearing a 1972 AFC home shirt
whats the keeper we just bought from brussia like, arsen says hes brilliant whats you thoughts?
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-28 02:10 [#00796244]
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Bit of confusion...I know it seems from that post that I'm a Gooner, but in fact I'm a Mighty RED! :-)
(Hence me saying that you were upstanding, for NOT liking Manure, rather than liking the Arse...see?) :-)
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-28 04:33 [#00796304]
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i know from the liverpool attacker/winger post i just like broadcastin about my team
are you from germany?
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nacmat
on 2003-07-28 04:35 [#00796305]
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yesterday in boston a match took place:
juve - barça
with barça three new players did a good job: quaresma, ronaldinho and rustu
woofer: who was new with juve? did you see it?
2-2 btw
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-28 04:37 [#00796308]
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barca vs man u in 7 days should be good
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 07:52 [#00796474]
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great friendly match yesterday! barça is really competitive this season, we're all lucky who Barça will not be in the next champion's league...
Rustu was great with penalties!
the new juventus players are:
Legrottaglie: (he made the error in the 1st goal) he's a young promise
Miccoli: he has good feet, good shoot, good free kicks, etc... he should be the del piero substitute for next year.
Another young promise.
Appiah: He should be an african Davids for the midfield... we'll see...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 07:55 [#00796478]
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Juve need another good defensor and a good midfield (I like Fiore from Lazio), imo.
About attack, I don't like Zalayeta very much, but Trezeguet, Del Piero, Di Vaio and especially Miccoli are great players.
Listen me... give a special attention to Miccoli, between some month he could be very famous in Europe...
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-28 08:00 [#00796487]
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football is a great sport! I haven't played it for over a mounth!!! =/
one of my fav activities during the summer though :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 09:12 [#00796674]
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i play soccer (5 vs 5) with friends and i'm goalkeeper ;)
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-07-28 09:15 [#00796678]
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yes! kinda like what we do to... but usually we're just 3 + 3 players. but we play on a real small soccerfield... so it's ok :) and real fun! :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-28 09:42 [#00796727]
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cool, it should be really funny 3 vs 3... i remember the nike's spot on tv
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nacmat
on 2003-07-28 19:10 [#00797590]
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I play 7 vs 7
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:50 [#00797832]
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Barcelona kicks it back into gear
After blown lead, it takes extra push to top Juventus
By John Powers, Globe Staff, 7/28/2003
OXBOROUGH -- It was just a soccer exhibition on a steamy Sunday afternoon in a place that neither club's supporters had ever heard of (a borough of foxes?). FC Barcelona and Juventus were rusty, jet-lagged, and still trying to sort out starters from reserves for their upcoming seasons. But when the clock approached 90 minutes yesterday before a crowd of 30,912, the big-match vibes kicked in.
''Of course, you cannot win a big prize over here,'' mused Barca coach Frank Rijkaard, after his squad edged its Turin rivals, 6-5, on penalty kicks after blowing a two-goal lead in the final five minutes of regulation. ''But big clubs like Juventus and Barcelona always have to play well.''
Especially Barca, which is coming off a wretched sixth-place finish in the Spanish league and needs to show its 100,000 club members and the rest of Catalunya that the ''Blaugrana'' are back in the game.
''We can be satisfied, because we didn't do a lot of work until now,'' said Rijkaard, who was making his debut as the club's third coach since last winter after barely a week of training. ''It was our first game against a big club.''
And when it was best 11 against best 11 in the first half, Barca dominated, scoring a pair of goals -- both by striker Javier Saviola -- against a Juve team that appeared to be sleepwalking. ''The players weren't sharp,'' conceded coach Marcello Lippi, whose players had six weeks off after they lost to AC Milan in the European Champions' League final. ''They gave away too many balls.''
Barca's attacking style, which Rijkaard is stressing, had much to do with that. The first goal, in the 28th minute on a penalty, came after defender Nicola Legrottaglie tackled Saviola from behind in the penalty area. The second, off a corner kick in the 41st, was a header from an unmarked Saviola after keeper Gianluigi Buffon had made a one
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:51 [#00797834]
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The second, off a corner kick in the 41st, was a header from an unmarked Saviola after keeper Gianluigi Buffon had made a one-handed save off Patrick Andersson.
In between, Barca keeper Rustu Recber, Turkey's World Cup star and one of the club's key offseason pickups, made two marvelous saves within seconds, busting up David Trezeguet's breakaway and thwarting Alessandro Del Piero's point-blank blast.
Once both clubs went liberally to their benches in the final half hour (with Brazilian star Ronaldinho making his Barcelona debut), Juventus came alive, just as it did last spring, when the ''bianconeri'' knocked Barcelona out of the Champions' League quarterfinals in overtime while playing a man down in Barca's own stadium.
This time, the Italian champions stung Rijkaard's reserves (including backup keeper Victor Valdes) with goals in the 86th and 87th minutes, with Fabrizio Miccoli sending in Marco Di Vaio for the first and dashing in himself for the second.
So they went directly to a shootout (only in America would they skip overtime), and after Buffon and Valdes each blocked one kick, Ronaldinho walked to the spot as fifth man up for Barca, knowing that a miss would make Juve winners.
''I wasn't nervous at all,'' said the $29 million man, who boomed the ball past Buffon to keep Barca alive. ''I was just excited. It was a thrill to put on the uniform for the first time.''
When Valdes blocked Gianluca Pessotto's bid and Carles Puyol converted with a far-corner skimmer, the Catalans walked off winners. But Juventus, which figures to be playing from now until late May, was already thinking about next weekend's Italian Super Cup showdown with AC Milan at Giants Stadium.
''Barcelona and Manchester United are great teams,'' said Lippi, whose squad plays Man U in the Meadowlands Thursday. ''But the match that will count is Milan. Because if we win, that provides the first trophy of the season.''
This story ran on page D1 of the Boston Globe on 7/28/2003. © Copyright
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:53 [#00797835]
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Satisfaction guaranteed
Rare poor stretch prompts changes for FC Barcelona
By John Powers, Globe Staff, 7/27/2003
ARCELONA -- When he heard about the ''gira yankee,'' his club's preseason tour of the Northeast Corridor, Marc Overmars thought it sounded like an enjoyable summer junket with a few fun friendlies along the way. ''Who are we playing?'' he inquired. How about Juventus, AC Milan, and Manchester United, three of Europe's top four soccer teams. Why not bring the pain right away? ''For me, I like it,'' says the Dutch forward, whose FC Barcelona teammates take on Juventus's zebra-striped legions this afternoon in a marquee exhibition at Gillette Stadium. ''You play against big teams, you cannot afford to step down even a little bit.''
After a nightmarish season -- a sorry sixth place in the Spanish league and a revolution at the top -- the club is eager to show that Barca is back, with a new president (Joan Laporta), a new board, a new coach (Frank Rijkaard), and a bunch of new players, most notably Ronaldinho, the Brazilian star whom Barcelona snookered away from Manchester United last week for close to $29 million.
''Barca must aspire to everything,'' says captain Luis Enrique, who is convinced the revamped roster can win its accustomed domestic and international hardware once again. ''We can win the titles.''
Barca has always counted on a cornucopia of cups. Besides the 1992 European Champions' trophy, its award case boasts four Cup Winners' Cups, three UEFA Cups, 16 Spanish league titles (six of them in the '90s), and two dozen league cups.
But after four rough years, the pride of Catalunya barely qualified for next season's European competition, grabbing the last Spanish place in the second-tier tournament for also-rans. ''We didn't make the Champions League,'' says Overmars. ''That is not possible.''
Or acceptable. For the ''Blaugrana,'' whose hallmark blue and claret jerseys go back more than a century, the Champions League is
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:54 [#00797836]
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the Champions League is the only place they belong, alongside blood rivals Real Madrid.
For the better part of the last three decades, Barcelona has been Europe's glamour team, a showcase for international stars such as Argentina's Diego Maradona, the Netherlands' Johan Cruyff and Ronald Koeman, Denmark's Michael Laudrup, England's Gary Lineker, Bulgaria's Hristo Stoitchkov, Portugal's Luis Figo, and Brazil's three Rs -- Romario, Rivaldo, and Ronaldo. ''We have a club that belongs to the elite of the football world,'' says Laporta, who has promised to put Barca back on top.
Which is why last season's fall from grace, during which the club teetered on the verge of being relegated to the second division for the first time, was so dispiriting. While performing superbly in Champions League play, going undefeated until Juventus knocked them out in the quarterfinals, the Blaugrana suffered through a wretched domestic campaign, sinking as low as 16th.
After Seville, which had managed only two away goals all season, hammered Barcelona, 3-0, at its Nou Camp home, the rest of the league got a taste for Catalan blood. ''They see that it is possible to beat Barca,'' says Overmars. ''They were putting pressure on us. Normally, it has been the other way.''
The turning point came last winter amid a five-match winless streak that provoked a fan revolt that got coach Louis van Gaal fired and forced president Joan Gaspart to resign. ''For four years, our team won practically nothing,'' says Laporta, a dashing and dynamic local attorney who promised to shake things up when he took over last month. ''Change really was necessary.''
Laporta and his new young board, who've been dubbed Kennedyesque by local boosters, dumped replacement coach Radomir Antic (who'd been given a contract extension by the interim regime), hired Rijkaard, the former Dutch star who still looks and thinks like a player, and went after English pop deity David Beckham, the world's most visible player, as Laporta had
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:55 [#00797838]
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as Laporta had vowed he would.
Beckham opted for Real Madrid, but Barca had made a statement: The club would be back in the chase for the game's biggest names. ''We don't want to spend more money than we can,'' says Laporta, who is facing an inherited deficit that has been estimated at $115 million or more. ''But for some players, we will make an effort.''
The acquisition of Ronaldinho, who is expected to be in the lineup today, was a clear sign to the Gent del Barca, the loyal but restless supporters, that the club is on the rise. ''They love their club, they are proud of their club,'' says Rijkaard. ''But because for the last four seasons Barca doesn't win, the delusion is great and the expectations are even higher because they want to win again, and I can understand that.''
Catalunya's club FC Barcelona, which has more than 100,000 members, 1,500 fan clubs, and an estimated 5 million global supporters, is more than a soccer team. It's the biggest athletic club in the world, offering more than a dozen sports, including basketball (the European champions), American football (NFL Europe's Dragons), track and field, baseball, rugby, team handball, volleyball, field hockey, ice hockey, and figure skating.
Barca, says its motto, is ''more than a club.'' Though the city has another top-division team in Espanyol, which plays in the Olympic stadium atop Montjuic, Barca always has been Catalunya's heart and soul -- creative, passionate, proud, rebellious, irrepressible. ''When people think of Barca, they think of something authentic,'' says Laporta. ''Something that has a strong history, that has quality. People think about Barca as something special.''
In the dark years after the Civil War of the 1930s, when Franco had his generalissimo's boot planted across Catalunya's throat, there was always its soccer team. ''Our language, our culture, our institutions were forbidden,'' Laporta says. The Blaugrana played on, as they always had, even though Franco's thugs murd
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:57 [#00797840]
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The Blaugrana played on, as they always had, even though Franco's thugs murdered their president and forced the club to change its name to Club de Futbol Barcelona to make it more ''Spanish.''
Though Real Madrid took over as the country's and the continent's dominant club during the late '50s, Barca became the hot destination soon after restrictions on foreign players were eased in the early '70s. Overmars, who won a European championship with Ajax of Amsterdam, says he always wanted to play for Barca.
So does Ronaldinho, who spurned Manchester United's bid after his Brazilian predecessors told him Barcelona was the place to be. ''I always dreamt of playing for Barca since I was a kid,'' declared the former Paris-St. Germain winger, who was greeted by 30,000 fans at his introduction after signing a five-year deal.
His new home is an alluring Mediterranean city with an easygoing, tolerant atmosphere, a distinguished soccer heritage, and one of the world's most impressive stadiums in the 115,000-seat Nou Camp, which was built in 1957. ''When it's full,'' testifies Rijkaard, ''it is a magical atmosphere.''
Though tickets are scarce -- more than 90 percent are snapped up by club members -- empty seats have been on the rise as Barca has slipped from first to second to fourth to sixth over the last four years. ''Normally, you drink the poison once and you rebuild,'' observes Overmars, who arrived here from Arsenal three years ago figuring he'd win a title. ''We keep drinking the poison.''
The Gent del Barca can't abide another toxic season around Nou Camp. ''I don't think they have really a lot of patience,'' Overmars says. ''We have to play direct for the big prizes.''
The club began turning the corner at the end of last season, winning its final four matches by an aggregate 10-3 and qualifying for Europe, as Barca has every year since competition began in 1955. ''That is the most important thing,'' says forward Patrick Kluivert, who's agreed to stay on
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:58 [#00797841]
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''That is the most important thing,'' says forward Patrick Kluivert, who's agreed to stay on after contract renegotiations. ''I hope that was the lift up for this season.''
Kluivert probably won't be giving his team a lift today. The striker was not allowed through passport control at Logan Airport Friday because of his involvement in a fatal car accident eight years ago in Amsterdam, according to published reports.
Costly turnover The club's officials, coaches, and players acknowledge that the spring shakeup will continue. ''If you have some players for three or four years and they don't win, it's a bad sign,'' says Rijkaard. ''You have to change.''
So the new faces have been arriving by the week -- besides Ronaldinho, there's Turkish goalkeeper Rustu Recber, Mexican defender Rafael Marquez, Portuguese midfielder Ricardo Quaresma, and forward Luis Garcia, with more likely on the way. When Barca began camp 10 days ago, Rijkaard had 33 players on his roster and little time to sort them out. ''It's not my favorite way of preparation,'' he says.
Normally, there would be a dozen days of double sessions, a visit to the Netherlands or Sweden, and some undemanding tuneups against lesser rivals. Instead, the Blaugrana get a trans-Atlantic ticket, and the equivalent of a European semifinal.
After today's not-so-friendly with Juventus, the storied Turin club that lost the Champions League final to AC Milan on a penalty shootout, there's a Wednesday match with Milan in Washington, then a Sunday date with Man U in Philadelphia. It's a tall order for a club in flux, but an excellent way to make sure that Barca is at full throttle when the domestic league begins at the end of next month.
So far, there's been little but optimism and approval of the club's bold new approach from the Gent del Barca, who were clamoring for radical changes. ''They believe in us and they forgive us a lot of things,'' says Laporta. ''But we are in a period when the ball is not yet rolling. In S
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 04:58 [#00797842]
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''But we are in a period when the ball is not yet rolling. In September, it will be different.''
Once the season begins, the expectations will be what they always are -- that Barcelona will be knocking heads with Real Madrid at the top of the ladder and that Luis Enrique and his ''chicos'' will bring another European trophy back to Nou Camp. Ever since Swiss businessman Hans Gamper founded the soccer team in 1899, it has been more than a club. It has been a style, a philosophy, a political and cultural statement. ''Si ho sents, ho ets,'' the club urges its fans in Catalan. ''Feel it, be it.''
The names and faces come and go, but the club and its blue and claret jerseys are eternal. ''In the worst moments and the best moments, it is Barca,'' says Laporta. ''Always Barca.''
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-29 06:05 [#00797919]
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Nah, just live here...for a couple more months anyway...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-29 06:16 [#00797945]
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Today Italian newspapers reported: Ronaldinho during an interview asked: "Who is that little guy? He played like a phenomenon..."
Well, Ronaldhino was speaking about Fabrizio Miccoli... believe me, he will be the new Juventus star soon.
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nacmat
on 2003-07-29 06:17 [#00797949]
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I will be watching him... (evil laugh)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-30 06:59 [#00799819]
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yesterday, Inter-Stuttgart:2-0 A good start for Inter.
namcat: bad luck for Rustu :-/
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-30 07:07 [#00799829]
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LFC have got a gem in Le Tallec...remember the name ;-)
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-07-30 07:23 [#00799861]
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same with an AFC defender called 'Garry' (last name) amazing player future england star
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-07-30 07:32 [#00799885]
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Erm, and you don't even know his name?!? Yeah, he must be good! LOL ;-)
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nacmat
on 2003-07-30 07:36 [#00799899]
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tonight milan - barça
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-30 09:01 [#00800132]
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it will be a great match!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-07-31 02:09 [#00801701]
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Milan-Barça=0-2
unfortunately i didn't see the match, but this Barça seems really strong, man!
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nacmat
on 2003-07-31 17:53 [#00802937]
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did you see the first goal?
and the saviola occassion?
and the pass quaresma did?
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-08-01 00:41 [#00803281]
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yeah, this barça convinced me.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-08-01 00:44 [#00803282]
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manchester utd. - juventus = 4 - 1
my goood...
these're last 3 results between manchester and juve.
champion's league
manchester utd.-juve=2-1 juve-manchester utd.=0-3 manchester utd.-juve=4-1 --------------------------------
total scores: manchester=9 goal -----------------------juve=2 goal
it's official: juve, hasn't chance against the red devils.
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nobsmuggler
from silly mid-off on 2003-08-01 03:18 [#00803365]
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ryan garry
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