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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 14:35 [#00719889]
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Well my 70 gig D Drive seems to have vanished. Going into My Computer, it just ain't there. I'm not running around screaming because I'm a backup hound and it's all on CD anyway, I was prepared for an event like this, mostly. But still, I AM grinding my teeth and pondering pulling my hair out.
Help me. How can I make Windows detect it again, what exactly do I do to get oladhgl kashg]0q3rehigr3q0j in4o1gh4mno3nhg3oigMOTHERFUCKER
What REALLY irks me is I had some movies there that weren't burnt to disc yet and now they're gone and it's hard to find them again.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-05-29 14:37 [#00719893]
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youll probably have to go into the bios and activate the drive.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-05-29 14:38 [#00719897]
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1. viruscheck 2. check cords and wireing 3. check BIOS setup 4. use fixdisk 5. check windows "system" setup - If it shows in Device Manager, you can try just deleting it from there, and reboot
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-05-29 14:45 [#00719908]
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maybe the hard drive gnomes took it, like off the south park episode, except they were underpants gnomes heheh
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 14:46 [#00719910]
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Cool, I'll try those out. I'm remarkably relaxed. After my last hard drive crash, there was some property damage.
Is my data gone?
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uzim
on 2003-05-29 14:47 [#00719914]
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...yet another one bites the dust!!! EVERYTHING is defective in this world, ach... i always think one day i might just commit suicide because of something like that #_# or just go out and become an ermit and never return again -_- yet i know i won't do it, because i'm addicted, i don't know anything but what i'm used to, modern life with computers and other things like that, all my life is in computers and music barely anything else... or maybe rather the real reason is that there is NO WAY to escape it, like she says "blood and sweat and tears will never stop", but i know i won't leave because i'm too weak... rraaaaaahhhhhh *_*
......courage, Ophecks, we all know how it feels like... ;(
you can lose all hope, maybe you'll cure it but it will return again etc... courage and good luck to you!!!! =(
never depend too much on anything. nihil, nihil, nihil.
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uzim
on 2003-05-29 14:49 [#00719918]
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"I'm remarkably relaxed."
> you serious? you can relax like this when you've got problems like that? whoa O_o
lucky you.
*takes anti-stress pills*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 14:52 [#00719925]
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Maybe I should replace ''remarkably'' with ''relatively''! The last time, I didn't have anything backed up and I wanted to grab a baseball bat, run outside, and rearrange some faces. Bash some heads in.
This time, I'm pacing around my room and growling, mumbling creative swear words... and I attacked my pillow, and I even violently bit it. So I wouldn't say I'm RELAXED... it's just that this time, I was ready for this GOD DAMN DEFECTIVE MOTHERFUCKER.
I AM angry because I was planning to back up some more stuff TONIGHT as a matter of fact. Asshole computer. I hope the date isn't lost.
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xceque
on 2003-05-29 14:55 [#00719930]
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I couldn't get windows to spot a hard drive I had recently. The BIOS detected it, it formatted ok in one computer but in another, Windows simply had no clue.
Well, after about 10 hours of frustrated screwing, unscrewing, pluging, formatting, installing, uninstalling, sweating, swearing and kicking I realised that the drive was being formatted on my XP machine as NTFS but I was trying to read it on a WIN98 machine (FAT32), thus proving that I also have no clue :/
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-29 14:55 [#00719931]
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Glad you know the merits of backing up files... so I'll run you through the basics of data recovery
First, what is the problem with the hard drive
Does the BIOS see it? Is it spinning up? Does it try to spin up and stop? ec, etc
Need more data, but I'm sure I can point you in the right direction
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-05-29 14:57 [#00719936]
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xq your avatar looks really weird. it looks cg or something.. 3d?
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xceque
on 2003-05-29 14:58 [#00719940]
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Quatch
from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-05-29 14:59 [#00719941]
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viruscheck is usually the last thing to do
unless you're a lame dummy :)
but Junktion is totally right, listen to him
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 14:59 [#00719942]
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What do I do to use the BIOS, I'm totally a n00b.
The Device Manager does NOT see it, I know that much.
Here's an error popup-
''The drive or network connection that the shortcut ''Bealtes.lnk'' refers to is unavailable. Make sure that the disk is properly inserted or the network resource is available, and then try again''.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-05-29 15:00 [#00719945]
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seriously, is there any photoshop manipulation going on, or did the picture just turn out like that?
i wasnt saying that you looked weird.. you appear to be a normal dude
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xceque
on 2003-05-29 15:02 [#00719950]
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I didn't notice anything weird about it. If there is anything it's cos it was grabbed with a camcorder, rather than a still camera, but grabbed at 720x576 and cropped and shrunk so I doubt that'd make a difference. It's just a pic of me in front of my CD shelves. I think I'm about to cry :(
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-05-29 15:03 [#00719951]
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reboot your system and hit the appropriate F-key to take you into the BIOS setup...
run a search on google for setting up a slave hard drive in bios or something like that to get a little official instruction. i douby your data is lost.
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Junktion
from Northern Jutland (Denmark) on 2003-05-29 15:03 [#00719953]
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maybe this can help
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-05-29 15:05 [#00719959]
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oh bummer. dont cry dude.. you like will oldham so you are my buddy.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 15:09 [#00719967]
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Thanks, lots of potential solutions there, I'm gonna try em all. I DREAD to go messing around with the BIOS and control panel, or opening up my PC case... I'm scared. :_-(
But I'm a man, not a mouse. Grr. I'm getting my data back by hook or by crook. Not gonna be pushed around by a fucking block of magnetic metal anymore.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-05-29 15:16 [#00719989]
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If it has previously worked then there is no point in touching the bios.
The first thing to check is the connections to both the drive and the motherboard. With the temperature PC's run at now cable creep is still a common occurance. In case you don't know, all cable creep is the changes in temperature causes the plastic on the connectors and the connector blocks to expand and conract...over a period of time this can cause the connector to work so loose it is no longer recognised by the computer.
Just take the back off your comp and push the ribbon cable connectors from you HD into the drive and motherboard and you may be OK.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-29 15:19 [#00719994]
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If it's not seen by the BIOS there are different reasons than if it is that it might not be working... it's the first step of many. I hate dealing with data recovery
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-29 15:21 [#00719996]
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Is it on the same IDE channel - that is, using the same cable - as your main drive? Does it show up as being detected in the POST messages? It's possible it's just a loose power or data cable.
Shut down, open the case, disconnect the main drive, then power up and see if you hear the 70 gigger spin up. It'll be a whining sound easily distinguishable from the fans.
In the bios, make sure all your IDE drives are set to auto-detect.
Keep us informed!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-29 15:23 [#00719997]
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:: wonders if ophecks is offline cutting himself on sharp metal edges of computer case ::
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-29 15:56 [#00720018]
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ack!! why does this keep happening to you.......is it caused by a VIRUS?
i'm so glad you BACK things up! and i wish you the best in 'finding' your lost files.
i'm very curious why this keeps happening, i back up my files as well, is there something that causes this???
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uzim
on 2003-05-29 15:59 [#00720023]
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LeCoeur > seems like computer problems happen more often to some people, without any reason (or does it?)... : (
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uzim
on 2003-05-29 16:04 [#00720032]
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from all my friends who have macs, i'm the one who has the most problems and by quite far, yet i don't do weird things with my computer...
or maybe i use it more than they do?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-29 16:06 [#00720036]
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Cathy?!
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uzim
on 2003-05-29 16:09 [#00720042]
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-05-29 16:10 [#00720049]
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hahaahahahah
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-29 16:12 [#00720055]
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well i know jay d/l's a lot of stuff so i was curious if there's some kinda virus that happens when you do that, that creates problems.
i dunno about all ya'll but when i use slsk a lot, it WRECKS my files major. i have to defrag everytime i use it......dunno why but it sucks a lot recently.
also i know jay built? i think he did, his own computer.....to add more space....does having too much memory do something?
mousey.....cathy who who who ?!?!?!?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-05-29 16:15 [#00720058]
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*pinches his nipple*
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 16:22 [#00720076]
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I went into the BIOS, (standard CMOS setup) and I saw my D Drives stats... showed the 70gig size. That seems odd considering Windows doesn't see it... I didn't screw around with anything after that. What EXACTLY should I do in that setup...
But as of right now, I'm going to take the case off and shove some wires around. God willing, it'll work. If not, the next time you see me, I'll be a red stain underneath Marion Bridge!
And my uncle built this thing for me for high school graduation, and it's NOTORIOUSLY spazzy! I'm getting a new one soon, I've had it. A nice fast POWERHOUSE that will take all the energy from the Cape Breton Power Plant to run.
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-05-29 16:32 [#00720092]
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you better stay on SOLID ground, no sky diving w/o a CHUTE! =0)
anyway.....things will work out, and you backed up files so i'm confident it will all work OUT!
*hopes battle royale wasn't lost* eeeeep
GOOD LUCK JAY!
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-29 17:48 [#00720183]
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well, my harddrive dissappeared like that one time, and that was because it was fried! Had to get a new one...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 19:08 [#00720265]
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Now THAT is depressing. Please God, don't reserve the same fate for me.
And Battle Royale is safe and sound on CD-R, didn't lose that. Lost the ''Let it Be'' documentary by the Beatles and that really has me in agony.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-29 19:10 [#00720271]
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If you're getting it to spin up, there is a 99% chance you can get useful data off it
Don't panic
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xceque
on 2003-05-29 19:15 [#00720288]
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Give us the full history on the drive. Did it work fine, then just stop? Did it work fine, then you took it out and put it back and it stopped? Did you take it out of another machine where it worked and put it in your own and it stopped?
If your BIOS detects the drive and reports capacity, cylinders, etc etc then I'm pretty sure it's not knackered. Must be a format problem.
What Windows version are you using?
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-29 19:15 [#00720289]
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Easy Recovery 6.0 from Ontrack:
http://www.ontrack.com/easyrecovery/
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 19:16 [#00720291]
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I can't tell if it's spinning, can't tell the difference between that and my C drive. And nothing SOUNDS different...
I can see the missing HD in the device manager profile now, oddly... but still can't access it or use it... and Windows doesn't detect any problems with it. Fuck you Windows, open up your eyes, fool.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 19:18 [#00720294]
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Windows XP...
The life story of my drive:
Got it 6-8 months ago
Worked perfectly up until tonight
Sterling record up till now! As for format problem... I hope that doesn't mean I'll have to format it...
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-05-29 19:18 [#00720296]
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it's probably a softwareproblem.. why not install the HD on some other puter (and check if it works)?
can you do that?
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-29 19:20 [#00720297]
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shut down power off and disconnect the power and ide cables on one of the drives. If the system won't boot, that's your C:
process of elimination my friend
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xceque
on 2003-05-29 19:23 [#00720304]
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Maybe you should go to Start/Settings/Control Panel/Administrative Tools/Computer management.
Then choose Storage/Disk Management and see what it says about the drive there, if it says anything.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-29 19:25 [#00720310]
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You should also try downloading Partitionmagic, I'll find a link if you need it... this tool is LOADS better than the default windows utilities
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-29 19:32 [#00720323]
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Yeah, gimme that link please... and thanks for your help, I've got this topic bookmarked and I'll definitely try that Easy Recovery thing (and everything else) if it comes to that, but right now I just feel defeated and tired. Beaten and battered.
Disk Management didn't work for some bizarre reason... I do find it funny that Windows says ''this device is working properly'' though.
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-29 19:45 [#00720333]
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I'd check for it on Kazaa or whatever your friendly file sharing network is first... it's a pay product online, couldn't find any demo/shareware versions
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Sanguine
from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-29 19:46 [#00720334]
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That means it's being read... try reinstalling any hardware utilities from the manufacturer, drivers for the IDE bus for the hard drive, etc... lots of things could have happened
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Key_Secret
from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-05-29 20:19 [#00720371]
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Seems like more people than you are having troubles with their (various different types of) HDs...
http://science.slashdot.org/articles/03/05/29/1943216.sht...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-05-29 20:24 [#00720379]
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i'd be quite happy to come around your house and fix the problem for free, just book me a ticket and ill stay overnight
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