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offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 06:05 [#00717753]
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It's been dawning on me that we are at the start of the
mythic Armageddon. With the bullies in the United States
Government sowing seeds of future 'regime change' in Syria
and Iran lately (even tho Iran was the only middle east
country to stand with America after 9/11), it looks like the
West and the Rest of the World are about to engage in a huge
Holy War (whatever other name it may be given). I'm with the
Rest of the World, and I'll do whatever I can when the time
comes.

If you look at it from the Moslem World's point of view,
this is the next step in Western Imperialism, which has
stretched back over half a millenium. The systematic rape
and pillage of non-christian countries, normally under the
guise of 'educating' or 'converting' the 'primitive people'.
From South America to Africa to Asia, it's been a nonstop
plundering of mineral wealth and enlslavement of the people
- I call it genoslavery. Now the Middle East must be
thinking 'they're coming after us now', and I don't think
they'll take it if THe West invade another of their
neighbours. They tolerated Afghanistan and Iraq, but I don't
believe they'll tolerate another invasion.


 

offline diablo on 2003-05-28 06:29 [#00717766]
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Can u imagine what the 2nd World War felt like?

But I know what u mean... it does feel a bit like a Holy war
is about to kick off, it doesn't help that Bush & Blair both
call themselves Christians. But, hey I don't think this is
the end of the world right yet... ;)


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 06:49 [#00717792]
Points: 10836 Status: Lurker



I'd rather be at the onset of Ragnarok. Now THAT would be
something to see. Hollywood producers, take note!


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 06:52 [#00717800]
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Im not buying this whole armagedon thing.

But there could be some nasty fights because America wants
to be the superpower of the world.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 06:58 [#00717813]
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Some people (my mother included) seem to see the Moslems as
gasbags -- all talk - and that they'll do nothing if the
West decide to 'rid' the Middle East of 'evil'. If the West
starts trying to take over the Middle East, I don't believe
the Moslem World (and the other countries that the West has
fucked over in the past) will sit by and idly watch.


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-28 06:59 [#00717816]
Points: 10836 Status: Lurker



It's been dawning on me that I'm too stupid to post in this
thread.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 07:08 [#00717833]
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Probably not. But I doubt any of this will lead to "the end
of the world".

As long as Korea and some asian countries don't get involved
I think it'll be pretty "low-key" like the iraq war. Not
saying it was irrelevent because a lot of bad things
happened and a lot of people died. But speaking on a general
scale.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:11 [#00717835]
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A low-key take over of the Middle East? That'll take some
amazing brainwashing


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 07:14 [#00717842]
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Wasn't the Iraq war sorta "low-key"? I mean a lot of people
were suprised of how fast it was. There's a lot we didn't
see... but I don't know. A lot of countries don't have the
resources to fight America. But some do... and those are the
ones Bush better stay away from or he'll get fucked in his
tight lil ass.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:19 [#00717860]
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It won't be individual countries tho - that's my point.

I wouldn't say the Iraq 'war' was low-key - global
condemnation protestation and outrage accompanied it. That
will just rise and rise if they continue with their longterm
plan and decide to try to take the rest of the middle east.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 07:21 [#00717868]
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I guess... but that doesn't seem to matter much.


 

offline Laserbeak from Netherlands, The on 2003-05-28 07:23 [#00717873]
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"A lot of countries don't have the
resources to fight America."

I think a many people still don't realise how simple it is
to kill many people. Remember what happened with the WTC?
(12 guys with plastic knives). And then there's virusses,
etc.... :(


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:23 [#00717874]
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well, we'll see about that. This is a crossroads in modern
history - we can either enter the age of Horus and become an
enlightened world, or we can enter the pages of 1984 and
become even more zombified. I'm an upbeat fellow, and I'm
pushing for the former.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 07:26 [#00717884]
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"the age of Horus and become an
enlightened world"

Im hoping for this...

Sorry Laserbeak I forgot about terrorists, you're right. Im
a bit suprised there hasn't been that many in the US so
far... I mean.. I sorta feel like something big is being
planed.. maybe or maybe not.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:29 [#00717889]
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I hate the word 'terrorist'. It should never be used.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 07:30 [#00717894]
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What would you suggest?


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:31 [#00717897]
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there's lots of different types. Some so-called 'terrorists'
are freedom-fighters.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 07:33 [#00717903]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



although I am also somewhat of the opinion the end is
near...

it should be noted that at the turn of every century, people
ALWAYS think the end is near. Its an interesting
occurance... I dont know why it is either...

so, are we all just repeating history... or is there really
just cause?

Think about that carefully...


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-28 07:37 [#00717913]
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Maybe this paranoia of something big being planned on
America, is because the US of A actually has something to
fear. After having dicked over every small country(and some
big ones too) over the past few years, they know that their
time too will come. I just pray that the ones that do take
revenge do it in moderation, because if every American had
to pay for every sin committed by his government against
other people, every American would have to face something a
million times as bad as the WTC a million times over and
over again.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:38 [#00717918]
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several ancient civilisations, independantly (which is THE
crux of the matter) placed the end of the current age to be
in 2012. The end of Ages is traditional bloody, and the way
things stand at the moment, with the incredible tension and
friction between East and West, that something big just HAS
to happen soon. That's my inclination right now. This is the
natural conclusion to it all.


 

offline JAroen from the pineal gland on 2003-05-28 07:39 [#00717919]
Points: 16065 Status: Regular



.. i dont fear the end of the world..

when it comes, you aint gonna stop it and if we go, we all
go together...


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-28 07:42 [#00717927]
Points: 1113 Status: Lurker



I am not a pessimist. I feel that someday we will redeem
ourselves and peace will prevail. Atleast, I hope it will.
It would be frustrating to see something as promising as the
human race self-destruct into pettiness. And illogical (and
consequently unnatural, as nature is logical) to boot.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 07:45 [#00717935]
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I don't care if we all get blown apart. But while we're
alive here, I care.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 08:15 [#00718004]
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"Freedom fighters" .. you mean Hypocrites?

Still makes them terrorists if they do harm.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 08:17 [#00718007]
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I think America makes me paranoid by their stuped orange
terrorist alert scale. They wnat everyone to think that they
might be blown up by terrorists so they go out and consume
duct tape and bottled water... it's good for the economy.

Im not scared, I don't live in the US... Im not sure if I
would be if I did...


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 08:21 [#00718014]
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Well it wouldn't be the end of the world.. just the end of
the human race and a lot of innocent species of animals and
plants. It'd have to be from nuclear weapons, big ones...
a-bombs to distroy all of us. I just don't see any country
doing that , atleast not yet... there's still lots of power
to have.

but if it did, they'd be another form of life, probably,
after us... which might be better. I wish I could see how
the world would evolve after humans.. that'd be soo
interesting.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 08:22 [#00718016]
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01) I did not call all so-called 'terrorists'
freedom-fighters.

02) why is being a freedom-fighter hypocritical?

do you define terrorism as someone who does harm? in which
case, we're ALL terrorists.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 08:28 [#00718029]
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First I didn't say you called all terrorists freedom
fighters. It's hypocritical because they fight for freedom
by removing other people's freedoms.

Second, I meant cause harm as in do terrorist acts. Not just
harm in general.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-05-28 08:29 [#00718035]
Points: 11512 Status: Lurker



Phew, an armageddon couldn't come soon enough. I'm
tired of this 'living' shit.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 08:30 [#00718037]
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they fight for THEIR freedom. there's a difference. If the
oppressors have organised it in such a way that innocent
people may be slain so the oppressed may gain their freedom,
then so be it. That's how it has to be. Don't blame the
freedom fighter's - blame the Oppressors.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 08:31 [#00718039]
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Sorry, but to me they're just as bad. Just because their
freedom is taken away doesn't give them the right to take
others away as well.


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-28 08:31 [#00718042]
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I blame both. the opressors as well as these so called
"freedom-fighters".


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 08:33 [#00718045]
Points: 24591 Status: Lurker



Oh, have you come up with some miraculous peaceful way for
the Physically Oppressed people to gain their freedom? I
think you should advertise it to the world so everything
suddenly heals.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 08:33 [#00718046]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



the fact that ancient civilizations predicted the end of the
world, means nothing to me.


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 08:35 [#00718050]
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I'm assuming you know nothing about them then. I'm not being
mean btw. I think you should read up on them - it will
hopefully blow your mind. I didn't mean that it in a mean
way either! :D


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-28 08:37 [#00718055]
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No, unfortunately I'm going to live to a ripe old age.
Although the prospect of watching a nuclear war from afar,
or even CLOSEBY, has always interested me. I don't want to
die without seeing a mushroom cloud or three.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 08:40 [#00718060]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



i have read a bit about them... but I really just dont
beleive that they could have accuartely predicted the end of
the world...


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 08:41 [#00718063]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



the only way ill be convinced is when, in 2012, the world
ends

but then I wouldnt realize it

unless it wasnt immediate... and I wasnt the first one to
go...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 08:42 [#00718064]
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no no, it's not THE end of the world... btw, considering
their staggering cultural and scientific advancement, I
believe it's proper to treat them seriously.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 08:46 [#00718074]
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well, if you truely beleive them

1. what do you plan to do with the next 8 years of your
life

and 2. I would be interested in links to read about them.

But I just really dont believe in fate or destiny... and
thats what you're talking about. When someone predicts the
future, its assuming its destined to happen. I dont believe
in predeterminism


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 08:50 [#00718080]
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I'm studying shaolin kungfu and survival. I'm attempting to
cram as much knowledge as I can in the next 8 years.

Predeterminism doesn't naturally mean EVERYTHING is
predetermined - it can just be certain things. who knows
though. We'll find out when we find out.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 08:56 [#00718087]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



so, its not like, end of all life

its just the destruction of the modern world?

if I truely believed the world to be ending in 8 years, I
wouldnt be hanging out on MB's. No offence.


 

offline DJ Xammax from not America on 2003-05-28 08:57 [#00718088]
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"no no, it's not THE end of the world..."

So.. A end of the world then?


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-28 08:59 [#00718091]
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I'm a survivalist too, despite the fact I don't think the
world will end soon, I accept that there is a chance and
have made small preperations. I even have my eye on a
potential place to live in the event of bioterrorism...


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 09:02 [#00718095]
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I'm here because I'm waiting for my Immigrant Visa to get to
Arizona. My life has been on hold for two years. And
anyways, it's not a big deal to me - I'm not attached to
anything Western; not money, cars, clothes, houses &tc. So
if it kicks off in 2012, I'll have my shaoling and
survivalist skills if I need them, and won't be crying
because my gucci handbag was gone :D


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-28 09:08 [#00718104]
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Yep, the wide open spaces and comparativly light population
density of America are certainly attractive from a survival
point of view. Not mention the fact you can get firearms
easily out there.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-05-28 09:10 [#00718107]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



:'(

I love my gucci handbag

*strokes it lovingly*


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-28 09:10 [#00718108]
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especially where i'm from!


 

offline marlowe from Antarctica on 2003-05-28 09:10 [#00718109]
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hell yeah - first thing I'm gonna do is buy a gun and learn
to fire it well. I'm a pacifist ideally, but these sure as
hell ain't peaceful times. Action is needed


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-28 09:19 [#00718122]
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well, in case all hell does break loose, i have a
compound bow w/ arrows in my bedroom closet, as well as a
couple of 12-gauge shotguns laying in cases out in my
garage. very easily accessible. they are hunting weapons, of
course.

i shall be a black belt in whichever martial art i pursue by
then as well.

;)



 


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