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offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-15 11:37 [#00699438]
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Shit i just saw the movie and read some interviews with the
id guys.
"we don't want to make just a game. the player is a part of
it all. we want to break the border between game and
reality. you survive the most horrible nightmare ever."

fuck that's insane. fuckin paranoia. i couldn't get through
the demo of system shock 2 cause it was scarry and now that
?

do we need such games ? i mean i can think that the suicide
rate will hop over 300 % after this game is released.


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-05-15 11:40 [#00699445]
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Cant wait for DOOM 3 ! As long as you wont get physicly
hurt, I dont see any problems HEH !?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-15 11:41 [#00699446]
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that's what i mean. this game just hurts


 

offline Clic on 2003-05-15 11:41 [#00699447]
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You are a fucking idiot if you commit suicide over a video
game.


 

offline Clic on 2003-05-15 11:42 [#00699449]
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I really want to play it, but I don't have the cpu for it.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-05-15 11:43 [#00699451]
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why would one commit a suicide over doom III? "oh i'm so
scared!! instead of exiting the game i'm going to kill
myself, no that won't do it, THE IMAGES ARE STILL IN MY
HEAD!! WHERE'S THE GUN....must kill...self"

yeah i could see that happening


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-15 11:48 [#00699466]
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you misunderstood me. i didn't mean that someone after
playing that game gets his gun and shoots himself (but i
could imagine that).

i just mean that this game really has the grafical
potential. i mean this is pure horror. games just get more
realistic. i think this has some influence on people.


 

offline giginger from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-15 11:50 [#00699472]
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This game is going to fucking rule. The fact that they're
making it involving is good.


 

offline Clic on 2003-05-15 11:58 [#00699489]
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No, I got you. I was just commenting because people have
done it before. None of it was directed at you either.


 

offline rockenjohnny from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-15 12:02 [#00699496]
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know what youre saying... i couldnt play system shock 2 or
alien vs predator cause they upset me too much

but you know im dead soft.




 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-15 12:02 [#00699497]
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In our genetic past, warfare, violence, being scared, etc.
were such a huge part of our evolved psyche that we
need to recreate that environment just to feel
normal. I want to play this game pretty bad. I want to again
play doom2 and all the additions like the master levels but
they don't work on this stupid computer for some reason.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-05-15 12:04 [#00699501]
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I wish games would get more realistic.
Would be cool. I didn't like 3D games until they began
looking good.
I still love pixels more...


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-05-15 12:05 [#00699505]
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My CPU isn't good enough to run Doom 3 at an acceptable
level, I'll betcha. I never cared too much for first person
shooters anyway, especially ones with monsters and stuff.
Only spies and army dudes.


 

offline Key_Secret from Sverige (Sweden) on 2003-05-15 12:06 [#00699508]
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well... sprites is what I mean.
A lot of genres have been improved by 3D gfx but it has
resulted in that 3D games are pretty much all alike, and
some genres have died (like platform games)...
Some games work better in 2D than 3D but aren't being made
cause "everything has to be in 3D". Kinda sad.
Kills creativity from scratch.


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-15 12:19 [#00699536]
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do we really need this ? do YOU feel the need for this ?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2003-05-15 14:14 [#00699805]
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I WILL HAVE SUICIDE IF I CANNOT HAEV IT BEFORE SEPTEMBER!


 

offline Jedi Chris on 2003-05-15 14:22 [#00699814]
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What is the spec for Doom 3?


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-15 14:35 [#00699827]
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too much for me


 

offline WeaklingChild from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-15 14:35 [#00699828]
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now, back in the 70's and 80's and shit, video games
sucked.
well, i guess theyre known as "classic" games now, but bare
with me....

if people who played games such as pacman and space raiders
can become serial killers and murderers, what will become of
the kids who play GTA £, Doom and Medal of Honour and
stuff?

Weaklingchild disclaimer: I'm not having a dig at video
games in any way, i'm simply suggesting that, people,
especially children do get influenced by games they play, tv
they watch and so on.
yes i KNOW they shouldnt be playing doom 3 becuse it is for
18 year olds, but how many parents give a shit about these
things anyway?

please dont hate me....


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-15 14:39 [#00699835]
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Put it this way... any child that can afford a PC fit to run
it is very spoilt and likely to become a psychopath
regardless of PC games ;)


 

offline child810 from boston (United States) on 2003-05-15 14:42 [#00699841]
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Doom 3 looks good but check out Half Life 2, now this game
is gonna rock.

Sort of big file..

right click this: open with quicktime

The interaction with the enviroment is fucking crazy!


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-05-15 15:25 [#00699927]
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yes. doom 3 is nothing compared to half life2. half life 2 ,
what ive seen so faar is da thing!!!!! wooooow!!!!!!!!!!


 

offline catharsis from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-15 15:35 [#00699955]
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NO SHIT!!! SYstem shock 2 scared the hell out of me too!!!
I stopped playing and gave it to my bro.


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-15 15:41 [#00699970]
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have to admit, DOOM did give me nightmares :S:S:S always
that MASSIVE demon thing with the rocketlauncher for an arm,
who shows up on the tower of babbell level



 

offline mute from hell (United States) on 2003-05-15 15:47 [#00699979]
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sadist, if you have issues seperating life, meaning and
culture from games death and entertainment you should go
seek some psychological help. its you and people with your
opinions that scare me.. not the video games and their
average user.


 

offline AlbertoBalsalm from Reykjavík (Iceland) on 2003-05-15 15:56 [#00699989]
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Jim Dose, id Software programmer: "The main purpose of DOOM
III is to scare player and make him believe in what's
happening on the monitor. We want him to recall his DOOM
experience even when his computer turned off. We want DOOM
III to be a new reality for him"

http://articles.dailytelefrag.com/eng/previews/2002/06/04/d
oom3/


 

offline mylittlesister from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-15 16:02 [#00699998]
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my god, that video for half life looks ABSOLUTELY AMAZING!
(shame the person playing wasnt that good) :)


 

offline Jon Beilin from United States on 2003-05-15 21:20 [#00700358]
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system shock one freaked the hell out of me back when i was
in 5th grade. played it again recently and it still is
intense as hell.


 

offline listentoparka from Fisherman's Cove (United States) on 2003-05-16 01:41 [#00700614]
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yeah right, are you kidding? go here to read
something interesting about the halflife2 engine, then take
a look at those greasy doom3 screens again


 

offline Loopz from Brum Land on 2003-05-16 03:04 [#00700680]
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Who cares which one looks better than the other. Im playing
both :)

Ive seen worse on the cinema to be honest and films can be
watched by any age.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-16 03:10 [#00700692]
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Just as Doom one now looks harmless, almost laughable, so
will Doom 3 in ten years time. Your kids will ask, "Daddy,
were you really scared by that old game?"


 

offline wilcoooo from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-05-16 03:16 [#00700695]
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i hope santa will give me a new computer


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-16 04:21 [#00700729]
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hm that seemed very offensive. i don't have a problem with
separating live from entertainment. though i have to say
that after watching the movie "the ring" i couldn't sleep
for two days. it really scared me.

the thing why i opened this thread is, that some people
really are influenced by stupid pc games.

and then there's another thing. as i said, nobody was
influenced by old games cause they weren't REALISTIC. now
doom3 looks almost like a movie. and in a few years when
you'll have your 3d stereo glasses on your head and virtual
reality will be almost as real as reality, how do you want
to define then that the game is over.

i know i watched to much movies with such a story and that
the things i'm talking about maybe be really not realistic,
but they of course might happen.


 

offline Loopz from Brum Land on 2003-05-16 04:26 [#00700731]
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they said years ago that we would be all into virtual
reality and alas it never happened. Maybe many many years
things will look more realistic and you will have more of a
cause to shout "panic" but really its just a game.

As for "The Ring" - i really cant understand what the fuss
was about. I know loads of people who think the same as you
though. Its all about mindset i suppose.

To be honest i dont know anyone who is influenced by
computer games but i know loads of people who have been
influenced by films.

so do we ban films as well ?


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-16 04:27 [#00700732]
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but where does it end then?
they can't keep going on with making it more and more
scarier right? is has to end somewhere i think..


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-05-16 04:33 [#00700736]
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I disagree, people's perception of "realistic" changes as
technology improves... People said Colin Macrae Rally 1 was
realistic- look at it now, it's patently not. Look at GT4-
people say that is "photo realistic". Look at the pictures
objectively- in the frame of mind, is this real or is it
CGI? still frames are hard enough to render to look
realistic, let alone movement, particularly of humans.
People have an inate ability to recognise the way humans
move, hence it's one of hardest thing to do accuratly in 3d
graphics.

Doom does not look realistic in the sense you could
mistake it for real life- it has good graphics, by today's
standards, but the subject matter alone should allow all but
the mentally ill to distinguish between reality and the
game.

There was outcry about GTA1 and it was close to getting
banned. Look at it now, everything about it looks like a
toy...


 

offline Lust Incarnate from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-05-16 04:51 [#00700754]
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Argh! Personally, I hate shooting games. Some of them are
okay (I suck at them... I only work well with Mario & Co.
^_^) like the ones where there is a purpose for shooting the
people (like theres a plot and there are specific bad guys
and a reason they are bad!), but the shooting people for the
hell of it games make me almost uncomfortable. I look at
Spookyluke and hes "shooting" someone and going "Yeah yeah
got him look at the blood thats awesome!" and I think to
myself... "Im dating THIS guy?"

My sweet gentle Spookyluke disappears when he plays this
game. :|


 

offline Lust Incarnate from the edge of the deep green sea (United States) on 2003-05-16 04:52 [#00700755]
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wooww... I sound so pathetic. :)


 

offline sadist from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-16 05:35 [#00700784]
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of course games don't look realistic yet. i just meant that
doom does a BIG step forward to it.


 

offline wilcoooo from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-05-16 05:47 [#00700793]
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i cant wait when computer games get realistic, you'll get
awesome games, driving in a formula one car or flyning in a
helicopter or slaughter hundreds of people with my supa dupa
sci fi guns......
yes cant wait


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2004-07-22 18:03 [#01283749]
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Is it just me, or do the newly emerging screenshots of Doom3
and Half-life 2 look less and less impressive as their
release dates near? Farcry actually looks better if I'd have
to compare them now. :S



 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-22 19:52 [#01283779]
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Yeah, PC games like Far Cry, among others, have caught up
and killed that ''holy shit'' factor that Doom and HL had
going for them 12-24 months ago. And I'd be shocked if they
got Game of the Year over Halo 2 anyway, or if Doom was half
as scary as Silent Hill 4.

Even console games gained a lot of ground, graphically...
obviously the 128 bitters will never look as good as Doom 3
on a high end PC, but a game like Riddick compares to Doom
very favorably, especially on big home theater systems. So
the jump just isn't as impressive as it could have been. The
videos still look great, still probably the best looking
games ever, but it's not a big deal anymore. They'll have to
be judged on their gameplay now, fittingly.

Good news, Half Life 2 is getting closer... they've
reportedly worked out 99% of the bugs, and it's getting
nearer to Gold status (100% complete and ready to ship). But
who fucking knows.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-22 20:00 [#01283787]
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128bit?


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-22 20:00 [#01283788]
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no, they didnt say anything about it going gold
they just said 16bugs down


 

offline Ophecks from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-07-22 20:06 [#01283793]
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Well yeah, I didn't say it's GOLD (I wish), I said they're
getting closer. A couple of weeks and they think they'll
have the bugs worked out. IE, nearer to gold.

Redundant statement I guess, of COURSE they're getting
nearer. They ain't getting farther!


 

offline epohs from )C: on 2004-07-22 20:10 [#01283796]
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this may be old news, but:

Todd Hollenshead, id's chief executive, said Doom 3 will
require:

• A 1.5-gigahertz Intel Pentium 4 chip or AMD Athlon
1500.
• 384 megabytes of memory.
• Two gigabytes of hard drive space.
• An nVidia GeForce 3 graphics card or better; or an ATI
Technologies 8500 or better.
If your existing rig doesn't meet these specs, here's a
guide to beefing it up to play Doom 3 in all its gory glory.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2004-07-22 20:41 [#01283801]
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The video didn't look very good.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-22 20:43 [#01283802]
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hardocp has had some benchies up today

www.hardocp.com for those who just got the internet
yestreday


 

offline horsefactory from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2004-07-23 03:10 [#01283889]
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Yar, I read that yesterday, I think I'm gonna get a g800
ultra.


 

offline elusive from detroit (United States) on 2004-07-23 06:11 [#01283962]
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6800GT is a better value

get the BFG ; itll overclock to ultra no problem

too bad you cant find them ANYWHERE

GRRRRRRRR


 


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