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offline wizards teeth from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-09 15:22 [#00691926]
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I have one hundred pound that I have saved.

Can anyone suggest some books to read that may change my
life / enlighten me ?

I want to change the way I think about things.

I want to realise there are new ways in which to view the
world and people.

I hate capatalism.

Thanks
Teeth


 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-09 15:23 [#00691931]
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American Psycho


 

offline corrupted-girl on 2003-05-09 15:24 [#00691933]
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Frannie and Zooey - J.D Salinger


 

offline Morgoth from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-05-09 15:24 [#00691935]
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Books of Marx maybe?
Das kapital if I'm not mistaken is one of his most important
works.


 

offline X-tomatic from ze war room on 2003-05-09 15:25 [#00691937]
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way of the peaceful warrior by Dan Millman, it's a fun read
and you might learn something if you're at the bottom of the
ladder.


 

offline w M w from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-09 15:25 [#00691938]
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the selfish gene and the pattern on the stone. Don't take
other people's suggestions. These are better.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-05-09 15:25 [#00691939]
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read "just a couple of days" for fiction

"one river" for historical narrative, richard evans shultes
in the amazon

i really havn't read very many books


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-05-09 17:58 [#00692224]
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The Joke - Milan Kundera
Truth and Method - Hans-Georg Gadamer

for perhaps a more directly life changing book
Being and Nothingness - Jean-Paul Sartre


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-09 18:00 [#00692227]
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If you wnt to change the way you think by a book teaching
you Chinese...then you can think in a whole new language.


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-09 18:00 [#00692229]
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Hermman Hesse - The Glass Bead Game (also published as
Magister Ludi)


 

offline AMinal from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-09 18:01 [#00692230]
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it has nothing to do with politics... except in the way that
it has to do with, literally, EVERYTHING.


 

offline qrter from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-05-09 18:02 [#00692232]
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Fight Club


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:23 [#00692253]
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"Total Freedom" - Krishnamurti


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:27 [#00692265]
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The Bible


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-09 18:28 [#00692268]
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You can get the bible for free, he would be better spending
his money on something more interesting.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:29 [#00692270]
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The Bible


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:30 [#00692271]
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nothing interests me more than where i came from and where i
am going, and the fine line in between the two.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 18:33 [#00692278]
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he wanted a book to enlighten him, and no book do i finds
more enlightening than the Bible. try it one time, alot of
intense and deep stuff to think about in there.


 

offline ecnadniarb on 2003-05-09 18:34 [#00692281]
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The Qu'ran in pretty funky


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2003-05-09 18:42 [#00692292]
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Beyond Good and Evil (and/or) Thus spoke Zarathustra -
Friedrich Nietzsche

Nietzsche and the Vicious Circle - Pierre Klossowski


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-05-09 18:46 [#00692296]
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cat's cradle by kurt vonnegut is great, short read, makes
you think of life differently


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 21:21 [#00692427]
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if you do decide to read the bible, you absolutely should
also seek out a compendium of the complete gospels (which
includes the existing texts that were excised by the
political powers that shaped christian orthodoxy) and the
nag hamaddi library, which is available in english
translation.

try "i am that" by sri nisargadatta maharaj, dialogues
about self and reality

"tao te ching" translated by stephen mitchell, the classic
chinese metaphysical text by lao tzu

"the lathe of heaven" by ursula leguin, science fiction
about a man who discovers his dreams change the present,
reordering history to conform with the changes, and another
man who seeks to control his incredible power

"valis" by philip k dick, a mix of autobiography and science
fiction about an author whose model of reality is turned
upside down

"true hallucinations" by terence mckenna, about an
autobiographical search for logos (and psychedelic plants)
in the amazonian rainforest, very openminded and speculative
with humor and intelligence

and if you have immense patience and interest in
neo-christian, gnostic ideas you might try
"a course in miracles," but this last one is not for
everyone, to say the least


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-09 21:31 [#00692435]
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beh, don't read something heavy if you just want to get a
general feeling of difference. try something angry or driven
by madness ;)
do the master and margarita by mikhail bulgakov, or notes
from the underground or crime and punishment, both from
fyodor dosteovky. ah, the russians ;)


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-09 21:35 [#00692441]
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non-fiction , in my opinion, even if it points to an
opposite stance on something such as a specific political
view or religious/spiritual view, is in the end - a dry
specific political or religious view. it comes full circle,
in most cases. lacks imagination of absurdity and has too
much planned rhetoric. i know, im being an ass.
on the other hand, i find fiction to be a little more
uplifting and not steaming at the ends with pressure and
rigidity.
maybe on top of the suggestions i made above, enjoy reading
about a drunk who fucks women and writes poems and loses
jobs - the late charles bukowski ...


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:45 [#00692454]
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The bible is shit. Well, everything except for the Goldren
Rule.


 

offline jenf from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-05-09 21:47 [#00692457]
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the bible seems like one very long and extravagant rpg


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:49 [#00692460]
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i wouldn't expect anything less from this message board.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-05-09 21:49 [#00692461]
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bernard werber - the ants

makes you view stuff from the other perspective

also, naomi klein - no logo


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-05-09 21:50 [#00692464]
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people say bible is shit even though i doubt they even read
it


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 21:53 [#00692475]
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weathered, you are close to the truth, but i think you meant
toilet papyr.

"he who spents too much time hanging out in his rectum
always thinks he smells shit." -discordian pope pyrus the
inflamed


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:54 [#00692477]
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Read the bible, but dont let it run your life.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:56 [#00692478]
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you read it?

cover to cover?

then explain to me EXACTLY how it is toilet paper?

if you can.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 21:57 [#00692479]
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i suppose since humor can shroud one's true opinion, i
should say that i think everyone should read the bible. i
don't think anyone should uncritically believe any of it,
but i think especially the gospels are very important to
consider.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:57 [#00692480]
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neetta: i know. not everyone is as reasonable and mature as
you. :)


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:58 [#00692482]
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so then it's not exactly "toilet paper" huh?


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 21:59 [#00692485]
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tibbar, i was simply making light of weathered's dismissal
of the book. i hope my irreverence did not offend.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:00 [#00692487]
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I really don't understand how some people can be so
disrepectful to certain religions...


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:00 [#00692488]
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if someone is searching for enlightenment with blind eyes,
how cxan they see truth?

so i agree with not blindly beliveing everything. besides, i
think part of being a Christian for me has always been
asking questions and NOT always understanding things.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:02 [#00692489]
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after all, i had just recommended the complete gospels and
the nag hamaddi library (some of which was unwittingly used
as kindling by the family of the man who discovered the
texts in 1945). to some, the bible is simply paper with
words printed on it. i don't intend to cast judgement on
them.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:04 [#00692490]
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right... well, me personally, I'm in kind of a "transition"
phase so to speak... not really sure what to believe... I've
kind of strayed from the path, so to speak, because I've
begun to question some things about the bible and stuff... I
ain't letting any priest or pastor tell me what the bible
means... I'm interpreting it for myself thank you very
much...


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:04 [#00692491]
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I hate all religions equally.


 

offline weatheredstoner from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:05 [#00692492]
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*correction: all ORGANIZED religions.


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:05 [#00692493]
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why shouldn't they be disrespectful? what gives you the
right to judge them? a child scolds his mother. let them
learn.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:05 [#00692494]
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no.

but i have a healthy fear of my maker.
and to offend him is something that i dread.

in defense of what you said, the Bible has made it clear
time and time again that man is not to be foolish or
gullible... i agree, especially in a world where there are
SO many people posing as one thing, only to turn out to be
vicious wolves.


 

offline mappatazee from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-09 22:06 [#00692495]
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I am disrespectful to all religions.


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:07 [#00692497]
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funk: that is ALSO very dangerous... that is how things like
jehova's witnesses, mormons, and catholicism got started.

people decided they figured out their OWN interperetation of
God's word and ran with that. VERY dangerous


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:08 [#00692498]
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i also hate the word "religion" being applied to
Christianity.

there is truth and their is lies.

there is no "religion".


 

offline tibbar from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:09 [#00692499]
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and so people who admittedly hate or disrespect all
religions are fit to give someone suggestions on
enlightening books?

bah.


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:10 [#00692500]
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well, you have every right to be disrespectful... I just
wonder why you would be... if someone chooses to believe in
a certain thing, and they aren't bothering anyone else, why
would someone feel the need to stamp all over their beliefs?
Not saying that anyone is stamping all over my beliefs
really... just, the comments about the bible being shit, and
toilet paper were pretty disrespectful imo...


 

offline plaidzebra from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:10 [#00692501]
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personally, i think it is a mistake to fear your maker. who
gave you courage? would you be so rude, as to not accept
that gift? you were given the gift to choose light or
darkness, and if you call accepting the consequences of your
choices punishment, so be it. your maker is too busy loving
you to waste a second punishing you.


 


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