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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:11 [#00692502]
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yep, read Krishnamurti's "Total Freedom" and you'll see why.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:11 [#00692503]
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Remeber that the Bible is just a book, thats all.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:11 [#00692504]
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hmmm, I said YOU have every right to be disrespectful... but I didn't mean you in particular, I really meant anyone... sorry...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:12 [#00692505]
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might the devil not give valuable input on how to seek enlightenment by clarifying error?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:12 [#00692506]
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to you... but Christianity views it as more... whether you believe that or not is up to you...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:12 [#00692507]
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i said a healthy fear, there is a difference in that type of fear. i meant the type of fear that leads me to make sound decisions and overcome adversity.
and i wish some people in here would go LOOK UP the word enlightenment one time. it means EXPADING your mind.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:13 [#00692508]
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heh, I always seem to get dragged into these discussions about religion...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:13 [#00692509]
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no. the devil is nothing.
i don't listen to him.
he digs his own grave.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:13 [#00692510]
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Christians view it as more because its their security blanket, without the Bible they are totally lost because they cant think for themselves. Its a crutch. It was written by the imprefect hand of man, not God himself.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:13 [#00692511]
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funk: i was just trying to make a recommendation i KNEW no one else was gonna make. hehehe :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:14 [#00692512]
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weathered: what's got you so angry? what is it you think God did to you? to not believe something is one thing, but you are genuinely hateful about this...
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-05-09 22:16 [#00692513]
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i dislike CHURCHES, not ideas or spirits or good thoughts
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:16 [#00692514]
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zebra: ah, but God DOES correct his children.... if you love someone or something, do you let it hurt itself, or do you try everything you can to help it?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:17 [#00692516]
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neeta: i also have an aversion to churches... it's more about the social aspect for me... i can't dig what "christian culture" has become.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:18 [#00692517]
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"funk: that is ALSO very dangerous... that is how things like jehova's witnesses, mormons, and catholicism got started.
people decided they figured out their OWN interperetation of God's word and ran with that. VERY dangerous"
nod... I do agree with that... I do also think things need to be questioned... I'm just trying to figure out what I believe...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:19 [#00692519]
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like i said: questioning is good. it is encouraged in the Bible itself.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:20 [#00692520]
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tibbar, you miss my point about the devil. i mean that you can learn from others mistakes without making them yourself.
and how is it possible to read the bible without interpreting it? the old debate, whose interpretation is the correct one?
you think your fear is healthy, because you believe that you must fear. what could you possibly fear?
you dig your grave, or you build your altar.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:21 [#00692521]
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read what i say, instead of trying to make a point.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:21 [#00692522]
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I am not angry and I am very close to the ONE TRUE GOD, not the God created by Christians to serve their own selfish need.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:22 [#00692524]
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of course you help however you can, tibbar. but a child must learn to walk, without a parent holding her up.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:23 [#00692526]
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hahahahahah and just WHO are you talking about???? selfish? hahahahahaha ok.
so what did you name your "god"?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:24 [#00692527]
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i made a point before you said what you said, tibbar. you responded to my point in a way that seemed to miss the point i had made.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:25 [#00692530]
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He has no name, even the name of "god" is an insult. We are all bound by his laws and whether or not you choose to realize it is totally different. I'm am part of no religion, I am part of reality which is simply what I can see,hear,touch,think,etc... nothing more.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-09 22:27 [#00692532]
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There is no God or gods.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:27 [#00692533]
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but see, how do you know your god is the right one? How does anyone know? No one does... all belief in this type of thing is a blind faith...
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:27 [#00692534]
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The truth is: there is no truth.
You can lead a Christian to knowledge, but you cannot make him think.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:27 [#00692536]
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No its just MY personal faith.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:29 [#00692537]
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tell me who or what god is, and i will tell you if he or she or it exists.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-09 22:29 [#00692538]
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There isn't one, period.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:30 [#00692539]
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there is no truth; the truth is.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:30 [#00692541]
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so then YOU are your god.
since you believe what YOU have seen and experienced is somehow tantamount of human civilisation.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:31 [#00692543]
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are we done here? Cuz I need to go masturbate to some pics of the virgin mary.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:31 [#00692544]
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mappatazee, doesn't that make you as rigid as the true believers?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:31 [#00692545]
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pride goeth before a fall.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:31 [#00692546]
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Getting warmer
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:32 [#00692548]
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nod, this is all about personal belief... we seem to forget that I think when discussing about religion, which is probably why it usually ends with people getting angry... it's all personal... you believe what you choose to believe, for your own reasons...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:32 [#00692549]
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weathered: no one held a gun to your head. you may leave anytime. unless you want to disprove yourself any more than you have.
PS: god is love. you seem to have missed this point entirely, as you have been MOST rude and hatefilled.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-09 22:33 [#00692551]
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heh, porn... that reminds me of something I need to do too!!! :)
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:34 [#00692552]
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That is your personal interpretation of me. Others may find me wimsical and funny. I see no hate, only you do.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:34 [#00692553]
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well then "stoner", why don't you go write off newton and einstein, since you obviously know more than those mean did... and btw, satan doesn't count as a god.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:34 [#00692556]
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yeah, and supposedly dahmer's family thought of him as a nice kid, too.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:34 [#00692557]
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Religion is fine, just dont organize it and try to recruit people.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:35 [#00692559]
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most importantly, no one *must* react with anger. one *chooses* to react with anger.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-09 22:37 [#00692560]
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I'm sorry Tibbar, honestly I think your a nice guy, but why are you so offended by what I'm saying?
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:37 [#00692561]
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tibbar, if god is love, then your ability to accept god's love is the same as your willingness to give it. you cannot accomplish this through judgement; this power of judgement is not given you.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-09 22:37 [#00692562]
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It makes me as rigid as someone who says there is no such thing as the easter bunny, there is no such thing as santa claus, etc. There is no such thing as God, there is no such thing as ghosts. I don't believe things I know them, a large difference between superstitious people and I.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-09 22:39 [#00692563]
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Belief is just declaring something to be true in your mind without reason to.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:40 [#00692566]
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you certainly have a lot of confidence in your knowledge, mappa. may it serve you well.
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2003-05-09 22:41 [#00692567]
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i suspect that much of what you know, mappa, is what you believe.
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-09 22:41 [#00692568]
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If you'd listen, I'm not talking about any sort of knowledge that I have. I'm talking about things that don't exist at all, which is a different thing.
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