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is orbital idm? what makes an artist to be idm?
 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 09:36 [#00691263]
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I think it is, but many dont seem to think so


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-05-09 09:39 [#00691272]
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i think for me it's when you know the music is techno, but
it can't be classified well into groups. Even though it may
be drill and bass, it's different than the other musicians
in the category.



 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-05-09 09:41 [#00691278]
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yeah i was tghinking techno also, they try real hard to have
conventional songs, they are not idiot dorks that just throw
shit together, slap minimalistic artowork on thier cds ad
call it good

NNNNAAAACCCCMMMMAAAATTTT--do you have snivilization ? want
it ?


 

offline alnuit on 2003-05-09 09:45 [#00691291]
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Until The Altogether I would have said that they were ...
somehow they seem to me to me the kind of band that knew
their stuff back in the day when they made the masterpiece
trilogy of "The Brown Album - Snivilization - In Sides". But
now they seem to be content just hashing out
orbital-by-numbers tunes. But the older stuff is still some
dope shit.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 09:48 [#00691299]
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I have it and its great?


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-09 09:50 [#00691305]
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still freaking my head.


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 09:51 [#00691306]
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what?


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-05-09 09:57 [#00691320]
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you mean "so-what", on this occasion :0)


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 09:58 [#00691322]
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lol yes


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-09 09:59 [#00691329]
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u know, freaking my head, orbital is still freaking my head?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 10:02 [#00691335]
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my english is quite bad...

so you like orbital or not?
and do you think its idm or not?


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-09 10:04 [#00691342]
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i like orbital, they are still freaking my head.. if i say
that idm stands for intelligent dance music, then i would
say that orbital is idm.,


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 10:09 [#00691359]
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thats true... maybe I have been a bit too slow.

thanks for your comments then.

indeed thay are still freaking my head too.



 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 10:10 [#00691364]
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which is their album or ep that you prefer?


 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-09 10:11 [#00691365]
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in sides


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 10:13 [#00691372]
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mine too, but very close to brown album

I am now listening to satan live cd2


 

offline Scabs Codeine from L.A. (United States) on 2003-05-09 10:35 [#00691415]
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If you have to use the term "Intellegent DANCE Music" then I
would say yeah they are........by definition anyway.

Orbital owns BTW.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-09 10:41 [#00691425]
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magazines record shops and buyers who neded to create a new
(smug as fuck) genre created the term idm - it was realyjust
areaction to tired hardcore around 93 ish - unfortunatley
the idm genre is more purposeless boring and confused than
hardcore ever ws so i wouldn't worry about it.


 

offline Morgoth from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-05-09 10:46 [#00691433]
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Does it matter wether or not one could label orbital as
IDM?

I don't really care for labels whatsoever, they're only
convenient to describe something to someone who hasn't heard
it yet, but with IDM you still are left clueless as it's a
real varied genre.


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2003-05-09 10:49 [#00691436]
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nac, creo que mereces el premio de reivindicador oficial de
orbital... (cosa que no se decir en ingles, sorry)


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 10:51 [#00691437]
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lol... si, la verdad es que soy de los que mas les nombran,
pero es que me gustan mucho, son sencillos pero buenos.


 

offline Snakejuice from Eastern (Western Sahara) on 2003-05-09 10:53 [#00691440]
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It's friday and i's gonna get to' up, but I'm not sure what
to think about Andrushka


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2003-05-09 10:54 [#00691443]
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te prometo que algun dia lo intentare i me comprare algo...
de momento todavia tengo algunos artistas por descubrir en
mi lista (prefuse73 de los primeros...)



 

offline cuntychuck from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-05-09 10:57 [#00691445]
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please stop the crap spanish talk, no fucking use here.


 

offline cataLYST from Waldorf (United States) on 2003-05-09 11:03 [#00691451]
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I truly truly hate when I'm explaining what kind of music I
listen to. I've chopped myself down to sayin I listen to
"instrumental electronic" because if I say techno they think
"ooo the repetive rave shit" or if I say IDM they think
"eh?".....ah well next time I'll just say I listen to "REAL
music." :)


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2003-05-09 11:03 [#00691452]
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que quieres decir cuntychuck?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 11:20 [#00691484]
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no le hagas ni puto caso es un perdedor que no hace mas que
quejarse todo el dia por todo.
ademas aqui la gente habla en el idioma que le da la gana.

me encantaria hablar contigo en catalan, pero no se...


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-09 11:20 [#00691485]
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exactly - it's a tactless snobbish genre name


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2003-05-09 11:30 [#00691498]
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hahaha
ok ya me lo habia parecido por otros posts... ademas, su
avatar ya lo dice todo sobre él...
hahaha, nac, ets un cabronàs, com tho fas per ser tan
simpàtic sempre?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 11:35 [#00691511]
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no sé, pero teneis un idioma que suena cojonudo...


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2003-05-09 11:42 [#00691536]
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hahahaha, gracias nac...
a mi, no se pq, me da especial morbo el acento de una basca
hablando castellano...

tema aparte: anybody knows why i cannot upload a new avatar?
its the correct size (60x80 and 12 mb) and i the computer
says everything its ok, but the image doesnt change...


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-09 11:46 [#00691546]
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I had that problem too... its something about the cookies...
but no idea really... ask tune

when you said basca you meant a girl from the vasc country
or basca as a bunch of people?


 

offline melack from barcielwave on 2003-05-09 11:49 [#00691554]
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i mean basque country girls in general (specially if they
are beautiful...)...
dont know why, surely because i know one that its...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-09 11:55 [#00691567]
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i met a very nice spanish girl some 6 years ago...you lucky
spaniards...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-05-09 11:56 [#00691572]
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have no idea whether orbital classify as idm...dont care
neither...i like some of their music and that is awesome!


 

offline SCHIZOPHRENIC from Los Angeles (United States) on 2003-05-09 13:07 [#00691740]
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I just call it ALL techno!

Keeps it nice and simple. :-)


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-05-09 14:54 [#00691874]
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nacho, if you want orbital to be IDM, they're IDM. i saw a
kid on here call godspeed you! black emperor IDM a few weeks
ago, so i guess anything goes.

now if you want my opinion on what makes something IDM--a
very loose and poor description for a type of music--all you
have to do is click here. it's explained in
thorough detail.


 

offline revpersona from Plainfield (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:12 [#00692422]
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I really can't classify them, and no I don't mind genres all
that much, order is good.

In-Sides I would think qualifies as that, but the Brown
Album was more Trancier while the Green album was straight
up early 90's techno.

I never knew what genre to stick them into other than the
broad "electronic" category.

I can't even classify my favorite group :[


 

offline pachi from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-09 21:14 [#00692425]
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the artists have to be intellectual dancers.


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-05-09 22:42 [#00692569]
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Orbital doesn't really fit anywhere in any genre; their
ideas come from a plethora of sources. Pigeon-holing them
is nigh impossible given their body of work...


 

offline grm from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-10 18:04 [#00693503]
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industrialised dog masturbation?


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-05-10 18:34 [#00693521]
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Nah, I was thinking more "incidental donkey manure"...

;)


 

offline grm from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-10 18:37 [#00693522]
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how about "ingenius donkey mother"


 

offline mediocre on 2003-05-10 18:44 [#00693527]
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oh man i just love orbital, they're like, the classic of
electronic music...

i think their albums should be divided into 3 categories:

1. TrancyHavoc-like - the albums not fast or hardcore but
which make you think of trance or something like that
2. Marple - the albums that are not too mellow but bring to
mind.
3. Nebula - albums which are SOOO fucked up, so just buy
them and listen to them NOW


 

offline DaWeeze from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-05-10 18:48 [#00693529]
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1. "Green" and "Brown"

2. Snivilisation and The Altogether

3. InSides and The Middle of Nowhere

That's pretty much what you're saying?


 

offline nacmat on 2003-05-10 20:04 [#00693584]
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thats just the way I think of them
and what is amazing is that the three groups are represented
in a row:

brown
snivilisation
insides

what a trilogy!!!

(this is an idea taken from somewhere in the mb)


 

offline The_Funkmaster from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-10 21:59 [#00693682]
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actually, in my mind, I've always figured that Orbital was
one of the groups that initiated the whole intelligent dance
music thing... and then Aphex Twin, and all these guys were
lumped in there too... but I've read lots of stuff calling
Orbitals music intelligent dance music, so I figured this
type of music, and any other dance group like orbital, were
the ones who really sparked the whole thing...


 


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