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no they cant - they have to kill things. i hope you lot dont kill spiders etc after quoting every tom dick and harry! |
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loopz, could you be a little clearer? maybe thinking that animals are "things" is part of the problem. i do think that these quotes are valuable food for thought, not the ramblings of tom, dick or harry. and, for the record, i indeed do not kill spiders, i like them. i will kill parasitic, biting insects, though. i don't think that killing for sustenance is really the issue. though i am a vegetarian, i don't expect everyone else to become one. compassion for animals is not refusal to eat them. however, our desires for meat have put enormous strains on the planet to support the massive, factory-farmed meat production; and, as has been acknowledged, contributed to the depletion of our oceans' fish. i can accept that fishing in public waters and leaving the fish to die on the beach could be considered a petty offense. but fishing for sustenance is part of life. fox hunting, on the other hand, lacks the parallel of necessity. it is brutality for the thrill of brutality. |
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There's a lot of fishing laws here.. can only fish certain kind of fishes, certain sizes.. only allowd a certain amount and you will get fined if you disobey the rules. And fishing licenses... I think it works well. |
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He he, whilst I have no problem with fishing, I never kill spiders or ants. I really like insects and they're not that good to eat (yes, I've eaten insects...). |
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yes, ban this Fishing person, I never liked him!!! |
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fuck banning fishing. no way, fish arre fish, i'm sorrrry, they may have feelings and a family to supporrt but i don't carre because they arre fish. |
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I don't think it should be banned. There should be fishing licenses, laws and a limits. We need to keep endangered fishes in mind. We can still fish and protect the wildlife. |
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"There should be fishing licenses, laws and a limits" therre is so... |
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I happily coexist with spiders provided I never see them. |
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That's my attitude, sort the human issues out first. well if you look at it more deeply, in the end this is also a human issue. Btw, I read in the papers today that researchers found out that fish, contrary to popular fisherman's believe, do feel pain and stress. |
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"As long as man continues to be the ruthless destroyer of lower living beings, he will never know health or peace. For long as men massacre animals, they will kill each other. Indeed, he who sows the seeds of murder and pain cannot reap joy and love" Pythagoras beautiful quote and so true. |
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I have no problem with thinking that animals are "things". isnt it you that has the problem ? :) and i would class myself as a vegetarian in some respects. Only because i dont eat meat. Go on i know i will get the but you eat cheese etc etc. Im not an elitist vegetarian just someone who doesnt eat meat and doesnt throw it in to get some random point across. or maybe i just did! :) aha! Isnt it also natures way to have a bit of a killing going on ? they blame it on the food chain but even animals sometimes kill to protect or for play i think a lot of people have said it already. Killing fish is the least of our problems on this earth! |
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If killing fish means the destruction of ecosystems, it is a big problem. Fishing isn't the only cause of it, but this ecosystem needs every part of the food chain and what not to keep itself intact. I'm not talking about fishing as a hobby but about fishing on sea for food-production. |
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the day they ban fishing is the day I move to mars... |
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fishes aren't cunning cute cuddly littow mamal-y wowsies |
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*me and the the REST OF THE BORG will join you there, grower of ze corn* =0) *eats some sushi* =o)~ |
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If a fish ever got a chance, he'd eat you and everyone you care about! |
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that's true though! |
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what the fucking is wrong with eating meat? nothing how else besides fishing do you propose we get fish besides fishing? case closed |
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OK, but what about East End weasel wrestling? |
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Check webpages from several vegetarian/vegan society's... Read "Diet for a new America" Check the site from the american Dietists association, and check the site from the physicians commitee for responsible medicine, and you will find out why people stop eating meat. |
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redusing the fish population means less food for the osprays. Think of the osprays! |
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Some girl I used to work with was a veggie but she had so start eating meat again as her hair started falling out. |
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I'm a veggie for 6 years now and am perfectly healthy. I know some guys that are vegan now for 15 years and are in perfect condition. For vegans:they should know what they're doing. And for vegetarians, if you eat varried enough, there should not be too much problems. |
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what is really bad is seafood fishing....they are caught in a net, fine....but they are boiled alive before eating, and that is soo wrong to me |
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I used to be a vegetarian until my early teens, not for any health/morale reason, just I didn't like meat. I didn't eat chicken for a while after that as we kept chickens as pets and for eggs and I couldn't bring myself to eat one. I don't care if people do or don't eat meat, but people who protest against others eating meat really make my blood boil. Have a read of this article... |
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http://maddox.xmission.com/irule.html heh love that site |
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I love the way he got hate mail pointing out his misspelling of "insane" (he was actually writing inane...) |
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I agree, I don't eat meat but I do not have any problem with people eating meat. There is still a lot of people that dislike people for eating meat, and the other way around. I've had to explain myself not eating meat severall times to people who just don't understand. We should just respect each others habbits. |
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I'm sorry but I keep reading this read as Should fisting be banned. I'm twisted. Sorry. |
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funny how he blames all vegetarians by a sentence used on a restaurants menu-card. Unfortunately, poor maddox doesn't seem to understand the meaning of the word murder, which is: to kill with a premeditated motive (animals grown and bred for slaughter on a massive scale comes to mind), whereas his point of the animals being killed during harvest does not happen with a premeditated motive. It's not like the creature is being overrun by the machine on purpose since the farmer can't see the creatures moving about the wheatfields. So unintentional murder is a paradox since murder cannot be unintentional. There will always killing because we can't survive without killing something, it's just that today we are breeding animals especially for slaughter which is totally unnnatural whichever way you try to put it. Funny how when you say ur a vegetarian it always summons up such aggressive and hateful responses. |
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mmmmmm.... fisting.... ;) |
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ok... too drunk to read through all posts... I'm against murdering/eating animals... but then I'm not blinded by the lies most people are... Fishing is way better than buying commercial slaughter though... I'm a rawfoodist btw... damn... a drunk rawfoodist? yeah I tell you! I sure am. But in a year or so I'll be 100% raw... and then things will be sweeeeeeet! I tell you! maybe I'm too drunk to post, will be interesting to read your comments... or if this just seems like bullshit, aw I don't know. damn it's getting late. oh I need to go to the WC... oh... what's happening? I'm too drunk, period. |
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I think that just because some people don't think it's right it doesnt mean everyone else has to follow that.. but then again if i was in charge of the world people would do as i said or die hehehehe :P -A- |
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there's nothing wrong with fishing. if you use barb-less hooks than most of the time you can release the fish you catch. |
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general fishing should not be banned, just FLY fishing AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA AHAH AHA AAAHA HA |
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before we ban fishing, shouldn't we make some regulations on conditions for chickens? just plain sick. |
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It's illegal to use barbed hooks on chickens! ; ) |
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In the majority of cases, we catch fish to eat it......its part of the food chain. That being said, I just don't see what the fascination is with sitting on the side of the riverside for hours upon hours, to only catch a little 'tiddler' and then throw it back - wtf?!??!! I also don't think we should fish until supplies are extinct....but on the whole I don't think fishing should be banned. |
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Incorrect- despite what vegetarians claim, the correct usage of the word "murder" can only be applied to the killing of humans... in much the same way "patricide" is only applicable to killing your father. |
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Swallowed a thesaurus this morning? :P |
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fishing should be banned for 12 year old boys who leave fish in your bed!! :s grrrrrrrrr |
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LOL!!! Tell us more! |
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Fishing is a too generalised term. There's fishing for food and then there's angling which is done for sport/leisure. The majority of the UK's fishermen fall into the latter catergory. I'd slap a ban on angling ? there's no justification for inflicting pain on any animal for your own recreation. I have no problem with catching fish for food, provided it's on a small scale like how they fish in the developing world with small boats and little nets. It's the industrialised fishing that bothers me. Huge trawlers with nets 2 - 3 miles wide that hoovers up everthing in it's path. |
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well i just have a very mishchievious hyperactive brother, who'll sit for hours trying to catch fish.....and once he's caught one he delights in finding the most annoying place to 'hide' it! i think he has a bet on with his mate to see who can find the best place. My bed's winning so far!......and it was there for 3 days :s euuugggghhh |
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Agreed......angling should be banned! |
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the very notion that some people consider hunting and fishing a sport disturbs me. i support hunting and such, but the attitude surrounding the majority of hunting culture is gross. |
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Poor Fishes |
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if fishing was banned, what the hell would northerners eat then? |
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