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MrDwatt
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-04-27 07:20 [#00672153]
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This topic is meant for a sirious disscussion about different styles and artists in beatless or almost beatless music.
I didn´t find any good one eith the search function so I thought doing an on one.
My problem: How to find good ambient music? I have Lifeforms but I find it quite silly and too much beat.
I have Music for airports, it is good but a little bit too New Age!
I have SAW2, and it´s simply genious! I have Pan Sonics Kulma and there is a lot of nice ambient scpaes, but the album is still not a real ambient album.
I got Vletrmx and it is also a masterpiece! Now I am sure there is a lot of dark or in other ways nice and good real ambient albums. How about Biosphere? Or On Land?
Please recommend and discuss beatless music and don´t forget to describe how they sound and feel!
thanks a lot in advice!!!
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MrDwatt
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-04-27 07:26 [#00672165]
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And it relly needs to be beatless or very gentle beat! No Ambient techno/house!
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-27 07:28 [#00672166]
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have you checked out this guy Aaron Funk? he's really good
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MrDwatt
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-04-27 07:30 [#00672168]
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And one problem is that I don´t have a good connection so I need to no for sure that it´s quality I´m buying!
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nacmat
on 2003-04-27 07:58 [#00672254]
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sakura - susumu yokota
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MrDwatt
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-04-27 14:09 [#00672960]
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thanks, but hmm, what if someone could be so kind to give me an adress to a ambient board or something...
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-04-27 14:15 [#00672975]
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Ae - Garbage ep in general and Experimental Audio Research's 'The Könar Experiment'.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-27 14:53 [#00673039]
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there's this show called 'hearts of space' that is hosted in san francisco i think? the website is here
they play all ambient of various forms - depends on the show, really. but worth checking out.
also, i think it was yesterday or something, i posted a topic on this board about keith fullerton whitman (aka hrvatski) - he's got some decent ambient production going on.. check him out on soulseek or something..
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-04-27 14:54 [#00673043]
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oops.. the link didnt work.. lemme try again (this is for hearts of space):
www.hos.com
if that doesn't work, just copy the link :P
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-04-27 15:03 [#00673064]
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My favourite ambient stuff is: Biosphere - Substrata (Number 1 in this list for a reason) Budd/Eno - The Pearl Jochem Paap (Speedy J) - VrsMbntPcs 95-98 Volumes 1 & 2 Any of the "Pop Ambient" compilations on Kompakt - each one is incredible.
Gas - Pop (wow - if you haven't heard this one, get it now!)
Check those out.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-04-27 15:03 [#00673065]
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i recommend
klf - chill out gavin bryars - the sinking of the titanic kraftwerk - 1 (red traffic cone) ...well, at least some of it!
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thethirdball
from Polly Pisspot (Canada) on 2003-04-27 15:06 [#00673072]
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Oh - the sound and feel - thing
Substrata - cool and icy The Pearl - soothing/melancholic VrsMbntPcs - like SAWII but more relaxed Pop Ambient Compilations - pretty much as the titles suggest - catchy ambient - more groove - still no beat
Pop (by Gas) - a fall day in country - breathtaking
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-27 15:08 [#00673079]
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eno eno eno eno eno eno eno eno eno
rapoon zoviet france
eno eno eno eno eno eno eno eno eno
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-27 15:08 [#00673080]
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I recommend Alec Empire - Low On Ice
And the website sleepbot.com, an excellent ambient resource. Very in-depth, if you take the time to explore the site I'm sure you'll be turned on to many new things.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-27 15:11 [#00673084]
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Everyone should experience 76:14 at least once in their lifetime... absolutely amazing, and the final track makes me think of Heaven :)
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-04-27 15:11 [#00673089]
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That's by Global Communication by the way..
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-27 15:13 [#00673093]
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theres always lustmord
and, hmmmmm...
swans "soundtracks for the blind" is half drone stuff, which is my fav drone stuff ever
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 15:14 [#00673096]
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i remember hearing a record by the bbc sound effects department from the 70's that way really ambient, sounds of space
very sci-fi and eerie i'll find out more
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-27 15:15 [#00673098]
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spacecadet: please do.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-04-27 15:15 [#00673100]
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stars if the lid - the ballasted orchestra
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 15:21 [#00673116]
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http://www.mb21.co.uk/ether.net/radiophonics/discography.sh tml
can someone link it please i dont know html ^_^
very interesting stuff, but it's probly really hard to get hold of
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 15:23 [#00673118]
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cool aparrently some have been remastered to cd last year, maybe not so hard to aquire!
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-27 15:28 [#00673128]
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Spacecadets link
How to include URL's/links in your message:
Type the following: [[a href="http://myurl.com/blahblah/"]]click here[[/a]]
*replace "[[" & "]]" with "<" & ">"*
It will look like this: click here
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 15:30 [#00673135]
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thanks pomme
the cd's are avaliable at amazon
tho i dunno which are which, i'm guessing the doctor who scores are pretty dope ^_^
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-27 15:31 [#00673136]
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Guess it would help if I href="http://www.mb21.co.uk/ether.net/radiophonics/discography.shtml/" class="message">got your link right.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-27 15:32 [#00673139]
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hahha fuck it. sorry dude
meh?
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 15:34 [#00673143]
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thats the one ^_^
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-27 16:01 [#00673203]
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dood... try out some Biosphere either download songs or get the albums of/from "Substrata", "Microgravity" or "Patashnik"..... all biospheres stuff is genious, but Subsrata is the best ambient album ever, better than SAWII by just a little bit.
Ofcoure try SAWI and SAWII which I think you said you have.
Try out A guy called "Lustmord" its really dark ambient, very very very good. Try to look for the album, "The Monstrous Soul" or even "Heresy". The first ones better though.
Try out some William Orbit, best albums to look at are "Strange Cargo 3" and "Pieces In A Modern Style". Both great. Especially try out a William Orbit song called "Water From A Vine Leaf".
REALLY look for The Orbs "Orbus Terrarum", Amazing ambient Cd, straight up. Other Orb is great to check out to, amazing Dub/Ambient stuff.
IF you want like Noise stuff kinda like ambient, no beat .. noise. heh. Uh try out the noise king himself "Merzbow".
Try out FSOL's "Path 1-7" or "My Kingdom" for some great ambient shit.
Also look at some "Coil" its really good ambient stuff, not all of it is ambient, but lots of his stuff is. For starters try "How to play in the Dark" or "Windowpane and The Snow"... and go from there.
For a simple NIN song try "A Warm Place", the only nin Ambient song really, but its fuckin great.
I know Im missing something but what..... oh well, take this advice youll find tons of amazing ambient. Trust me.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2003-04-27 16:03 [#00673212]
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Shit ofcourse I forget Brian Eno..... fucking Music For Airports is pretty decent. Heh...... HLA anyone?
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-04-27 16:20 [#00673231]
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i think some of the NIN - Still bonus cd had some really nice ambient tracks:
"adrift and at peace", "gone;still", "the persistence of loss", and "leaving hope".
SAWI/SAWII are amazingly genius like 892 other people said....
i haven't heard any Biosphere yet
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-27 16:31 [#00673243]
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As Reflex said, Lustmord is great. My personal favourite by him is "An early document of tactile experiments" brilliant dark (although lustmord claims his stuff isn't dark, but then again so does Snares, so I guess we can discount that argument...) subterranean ambience.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-27 16:32 [#00673245]
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Oh and he's the only famous Welsh IDM related musician I can think of.
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Jedi Chris
on 2003-04-27 16:45 [#00673259]
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I miss-read the word related for retarded!! Hehehehe
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Spacecadet
on 2003-04-27 16:46 [#00673260]
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haha retarded welsh idm
sounds like a genre ^_^
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-04-27 16:49 [#00673263]
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Deffinately check out OVAL - DOK i think its just what you're looking for. no beats just extremely pleasant ambience.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-04-27 16:55 [#00673265]
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fsol is really good, especially live sets n stuff, isdn is also recommendable... the orb is another artist i enjoy.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 17:05 [#00673278]
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Tangerine Dream's 'Phaedra' is worth a shot. Pretty minimal very trippy, that'll totally take you into a dark and 70s world.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-27 17:07 [#00673280]
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What about Locust's first record on R&S Records thats pretty minimal or Seefeel.
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2003-04-27 17:10 [#00673283]
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yeah you might wanna try Quique
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-27 17:42 [#00673318]
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there's tonnes of wicked ambient-type stuff! i really like Loscil's "Submers", and Tim Hecker's real cool... but my two favourites right now are probably Philip Jeck's "Stoke", and Ekkehard Ehlers & Stefan Mathieu's "Heroin".
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danbrusca
from Derbyshire (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 17:44 [#00673319]
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Alva Noto & Ryuichi Sakamoto - Vrioon.
OK, I've managed to recommend that album in 3 topics this evening. Is it getting through to anyone yet? ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-27 17:44 [#00673320]
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That's what I'm going to class my music as.
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-27 17:47 [#00673325]
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Higher Intelligence Agency Spacetime Continuum Banco de Gaia Air (Pete Namlook's gig, although the French duo have some dreamy stuff, too.)
Seefeel Single Cell Orchestra
and my personal favorite...Da ORB!
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-04-27 18:24 [#00673355]
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While Selected Ambient Works 1 and 2 are dark ambient, Thomas Khoner's work is usually described as white ambient. I suggest you check it out.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-04-27 18:43 [#00673369]
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well, I'm not a big fan of ambient... but Eno is good... I have On Land, and it's quite nice... haven't listened to it in a while though...
BUT, and this cd does have lots of beats and percussion, the most amazing ambient cd I've ever heard (and I do kind of classify it as ambient as it just takes me away, and creates visual images in my mind) is Passion by Peter Gabriel... it's amazing music... it's a soundtrack, so it's supposed to fit certain settings in a movie, and it does so perfectly... I can listen to this, and I'm in a desert, in the middle east somewhere, in a little bazaar type thing in some village, the music creates these images so perfectly... and along with this there is always an emotional aspect to it... throughout the course of the cd you go through all emotions, yet end on a hopeful note... it's beautiful stuff!
you might say "I hate Peter Gabriel" or whatever... but don't brush this album off before hearing it... it's totally different from his other stuff, with the exception of The Long Walk Home, which is along the same lines, and is another movie soundtrack... it's my favorite album of all time!! Check it out...
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-04-27 18:52 [#00673388]
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some may have been mentioned but...
stars of the lid - the ballasted orchestra (again) atom heart & tetsu inoue - masters of psychedelic ambiance second nature - second nature lull - cold summer tear ceremony - film decay james plotkin & mark spybey - a peripheral blur aix em klemm - aix em klemm biosphere - substrata aarktica - no solace in sleep desormais - climate variations nobukazu takemura - water's suite toshiya tsunoda - solid vibration windy and carl - depths
....thats about all i can think of for now. just ambient i find good.
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Tab
from manchester (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-27 23:32 [#00673720]
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im glad somebody mentioned the orb, adventures beyond the ultraworld is one of my all time favourite albums
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DaWeeze
from WANTED IN 16 STATES! on 2003-04-27 23:47 [#00673728]
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As is mine. But "U.F. Orb" and the first half of "Orbus Terrarum" rate higher in my book.
I found Plastikman's "Consumed" to fit well under the label "dark ambient". Check it out.
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2003-04-28 01:37 [#00673776]
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I posted my top ten ambient albums somewhere...try Wagon Christ's "Phat Lab Nightmare" if you can find it...failing that...
Pete Namlook - Silence V (ltd. 2000) Harold Budd - Luxa Chill Out Or Die III - (Rising High) (Parts of) Cylob - Cylobian Sunset Namlook / Inoue - Shades Of Orion
and plenty more, but it's Monday morning!
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MrDwatt
from Helsinki (Finland) on 2003-04-28 02:17 [#00673795]
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thanks A LOT!!! I don´t want to postorder anything right now, so I think Susumo Yokota, Biosphere, Plastikman and Oval is something I could find in a shop near me. I hope I made the right choice. But I will go into more underground ambient later... Maybe I also check out the Orb tho I thoucht that to be Ambient House. And tho Little Fluffy clouds is beutifull it´s kinda silly.
Lustmord also sounds nice but I probobly wont find him...
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