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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2004-02-15 08:33 [#01074080]
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Ceri, actually, it is widely known that a curved tonearm as on the technics 1200/1210 turntable provides better sound quality than the straight tone arm of the vestax pdx2000 series.
Keeping better time is also non-sense, since they are both quartz locked at 0%pitch and not quartz locked at +/- pitches, and neither use (to my knowledge) super accurate 'oven-crystals' anyway, due to the prohibitive costs.
Oh and the vestax are lighter cos they are more flimsy and not build like a tank like the techs.
And as for upgrades, what would an upgrade be? changing the LEDs to a different colour? The only upgrade which one is likely to do is change to lamp bulb, which I admit is easier on the vestax.
Sorry for being picky, but vestax decks aren't the 'be all and end all', techs are built like a tank, and will last forever (literally).
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-15 11:20 [#01074205]
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I won't go into the sound quality debate, because we could go on about it for hours and not agree :)
I don't know whether it's just specific to the mk2s, but it is well documented that 1210s & 1200s are susceptible to (very slight) pitch waver when at 0%. In fact, I think the correction of this bug was one of the "features" in the marketing blurb for mk3s...
re: lightness- they're made from ABS (the same stuff as car dashboards), which aside from being lighter, dampens acoustic vibrations, not only reducing record skip when too close to speakers, but reducing motor noise/hum (and in turn, improving sound quality). As someone who worked with ABS for months on their DT project at A-level, I know they wouldn't of selected it for the ease of working with it (it's an absolute swine to get it to mould properly/work with it generally)!
ABS is also, contrary to popular belief, very durable, especially when used as thickly as it is in the vestax cases. I completely agree with you that Technics are far and away the most durable "work horse" decks out there, but for studio work or if you're taking your own with you to gigs, it's not really an issue.
Just to answer your question re: upgrades, aside from the LED changing (which aside from being a modding option, do sometimes need replacing) that inset bit I focus on in the picture in post [#01073958] is easily removable and allows upgrades to be made. Currently, you can get a kit that changes it to the new PDX-2300 (jog joystick, pitch scale control, bpm, etc.) and I imagine when the 2300 mk2s come out, there'll be a kit to change it to that too (aside from the lower platter). There's also the matter of user replaceable cables (both earth and audio) which also lend themselves to user servicing.
Don't get me wrong, I like Technics and they're great decks. I just think that their reputation as the "rolls royce" of the turntable world is outdated, slightly innaccurate and (now) based largely on brand name reputation and popular opinion, rather th
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-15 11:20 [#01074207]
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rather than the merits of the turntables themselves.
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-15 11:22 [#01074210]
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nice equipment, ceri ;)
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-15 11:35 [#01074233]
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BTW, the 06 is great- I'd used a normal one briefly before to check I like the shape and I far prefer it to 10" ones for scratching and beat juggling, thanks for the recommendation :)
The cut in time is fantastic on it although they could of reduced the run needed to hit the start of the curve by a millimeter and a half or so (your washer mod has me interested...) now I've had it for over a week an the initial "wow" factor has died down, it's great, but I can't help feel it's not worth (the new) price. I managed to get mine for £345, but now it seems it's at least £445 everywhere... I suspect the price hike was by vestax, an odd response to the threat of the TTM-56 ;) So, my advice would be, they're great and if you can get one at the old price, they're worth it, but the features are a bit lacking to justify one after the £100 price increase.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2004-02-16 05:44 [#01075030]
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how about a nice wad of cash?
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pf
from Finland on 2004-02-16 06:02 [#01075035]
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Lovely thread, keep em coming, i might post mine soon. And bob, where did you get your titanium so cheap? tell me!
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-16 08:02 [#01075095]
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post yours for sure! im interested in seeing everyone's room.. I hope everyone feels encouraged to post pics here ;)
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-16 08:03 [#01075096]
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hell, I posted my boring-ass room
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-16 08:37 [#01075115]
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made a few new quick snapshots (with new and better webcam)
My room, view from desk:
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-16 08:37 [#01075116]
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My desk
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-16 08:38 [#01075117]
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Entire room from different angle (webcam placed on TV)
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eXXailon
from purgatory on 2004-02-16 08:45 [#01075119]
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Shelf unit with stuff. That's all folks!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-02-16 09:45 [#01075147]
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probably it was a mistake... jivverdicker clicked on a previous porno link inside his explorer chronology *lol*
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-16 10:49 [#01075229]
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These have been seen here before....but ahh well
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-16 10:49 [#01075231]
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plant...every room needs one
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-16 10:50 [#01075233]
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PC on my desk
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-16 10:50 [#01075236]
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My backup server
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-16 10:51 [#01075238]
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Cool abstract painting on the wall
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2004-02-16 10:53 [#01075241]
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did someone throw up on it? :S
;)
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-02-16 10:57 [#01075246]
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very awsome painting Jedi Chris
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-16 11:07 [#01075269]
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I saw it in a painting shop, and bought it. It was one of those impulse buys!
AlbertoBalsalm: No....hehehehe....although one or two of my friends said it looks like a three year old has painted it, but they have no taste as far as abstract art goes!! :P
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-16 11:11 [#01075282]
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I love the areas where it's light blue fading to white..
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-02-16 11:19 [#01075295]
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It looks like a smudged picture of a helicopter or a sports car
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-02-16 11:19 [#01075296]
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i noticed that everyone has got almost the same room, are we mass-production of todays society?
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-02-16 11:33 [#01075325]
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yep
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-16 12:21 [#01075374]
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He he, your map of Toronto looks like it's a wall mounted flatscreen :P
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Jedi Chris
on 2004-02-16 13:05 [#01075441]
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My map of 'Niagra' don't you mean?
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-02-16 13:07 [#01075443]
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my comp my widescreen my precious mouse makes work so much easier
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-02-16 13:09 [#01075446]
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meh, you'll have to click another link on the page that appears...to get to the pics...
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2004-02-16 14:39 [#01075549]
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/| .---------------. ... || |= .-"""""-. =| ||| || |= / 8\\y(`. \ =| \_/ \| |= |88/Y\X) )| =| | | |= \8ox\X(_/ / =| | | |= `-.....-' =| | | `---------------' |
this is a picture of my dinner in my room today.
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celloncllone
from anywhere but in (Germany) on 2004-02-16 14:44 [#01075554]
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oh you on an ascii diet?
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Zephyr Twin
from ΔΔΔ on 2004-02-16 16:36 [#01075708]
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hahaha
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 16:22 [#01080930]
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My record room/Lounge type thing.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 16:23 [#01080931]
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My record collection at the moment.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 16:23 [#01080932]
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My bed.
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Anus_Presley
on 2004-02-19 16:25 [#01080934]
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...to all the mods who posted in this thrread, don't, it's illegal, shoot us all instead.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-19 16:33 [#01080939]
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im currently in a heat of cleaning my room...im expecting some guests in exactly 9.30 hours so i must hurry :)
it's a mess, but i have been cleaning it for like 10 hours and it should be all tidy.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-02-19 16:41 [#01080943]
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giginger you seem to keep your flat tidy...feel free to come over to my place...i could use a hand.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2004-02-19 17:31 [#01080977]
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Seem being the operative word! :P
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Combo
from Sex on 2004-02-23 04:22 [#01085246]
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Jedi Chris i have recognized RICHARD D JAMES ALBUMS in your CDs =)
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2004-02-23 04:55 [#01085282]
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me too
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-02-23 16:18 [#01086309]
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It is true; he has it :D
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2004-12-15 07:51 [#01426175]
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This topic should be bumped
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-15 07:56 [#01426179]
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it's a little messy right now, please forgive me.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2004-12-15 08:20 [#01426208]
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fuck! that is one ugly painting.. but especially with that frame! ewww!!
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Matvey
from Kiev (Ukraine) on 2004-12-15 08:41 [#01426227]
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floor sink wall windowsill
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-15 08:43 [#01426229]
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where's the internet cable?
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epohs
from )C: on 2004-12-15 08:45 [#01426235]
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i'm wireless!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-12-15 08:47 [#01426239]
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fancy...big spender eh?
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