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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 06:58 [#00649319]
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Or you could say new vs. old style ae.
I just choose between buying one of the two,I choose Confeild I prefer their more medolic stuff....
You?
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hobbes
from age on 2003-04-14 07:00 [#00649321]
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dont wanna compare really......theyr different thats it...eventualy you ll have both if you carry on liking them......=D
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-14 07:03 [#00649323]
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They're both different albums.
I can' t really choose which one I like best.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 07:03 [#00649324]
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Yes but if you had to choose like me today,which would you have got?
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-14 07:07 [#00649330]
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I would probably cry over the fact that I can only get one.
I'd probably go for Draft because it's the newer one. You have lived for a long time without confield and can get that one afterwards so I would go for the newer one. But who am I to say?
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-04-14 07:20 [#00649347]
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give me a couple months... then i'll get back to this thread. :)
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-14 07:42 [#00649364]
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id go with draft, because its newer and more unfamiliar... to some
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nacmat
on 2003-04-14 08:02 [#00649389]
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old vs new?
that doesnt make sense, confield is not old style
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 11:14 [#00649710]
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Confield is far superior in my humble opinion. More emmotional, and feels less random and "self-destructive" compared to Draft 7.30. Still, Draft is great fun, but doesn't touch me in the same way Confield does.
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Crocomire
from plante (United States) on 2003-04-14 14:24 [#00650068]
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i may need more time with draft, but confield i don't think they'll ever equal, or at least they haven't done it yet. it seems they've taken a big step back with draft.
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-04-14 14:29 [#00650078]
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draft will take just as long as confield did to really "sink in"... but if i had to choose today, i'd go with confield...
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-04-14 14:31 [#00650081]
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i'm more down with draft
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-14 15:07 [#00650170]
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confield
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-14 15:14 [#00650181]
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DAMMIT!!
that rabbit is just SO cute!!!
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Cheffe1979
from fuck (Austria) on 2003-04-14 15:19 [#00650182]
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hehe
:)
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-04-14 15:58 [#00650219]
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I mean since ive only had draft 7.30 for a few days i cant give a completely reliable answer but so far id definately still say confield.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-04-14 16:00 [#00650224]
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draft is the contonuation of confield
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 16:08 [#00650235]
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It may be a continuation, but it isn't a good one. Confield was clever and atmospheric....Draft is more clever from a technical perspective maybe, but lacks certain elements from Confield that made Confield so enjoyable (I think Confield had superior melodies....tracks 1,2,3,7,8 had amazing melodies, and the other tracks were still great..)
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2003-04-14 16:31 [#00650263]
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Confield sounds to me like a moist organic alien world perpetually shrouded in a deep twilight blue. Draft sounds like the interaction between an alien being's central nervous system and the entheogenic fungi growng in that planet's soil. I love it all mang.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-04-14 16:35 [#00650270]
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i love the descriptions there, nice comparisons, draft seems much more "fun" as far as autechre goes. track 9 especially. i has all the clicks and noises but i disagree thats a continuation of confield and rather a regression style wise (this doesnt mean its not good, it is)
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2003-04-14 16:48 [#00650291]
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I don't see it as being very similar to Confield outside of the complexity of both albums. Cranked through a loud stereo, Draft is damn funky!
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Komakino
from Tan-giers USSR (Russia) on 2003-04-14 20:33 [#00650660]
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These music papers are beginning to piss me off with this "not as ballsy as Confield" stuff -- these are the fuckers who never even liked Confield to begin with, and they feel thats the only justification they have against anything.
I prefer Confield, for reasons i cannot explain.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2003-04-14 20:37 [#00650666]
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I'm digging Draft more than Confield right now personally. (Though I could not do without either) God I love Ae!
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optimus prime
on 2003-04-14 20:41 [#00650668]
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gantz graf (while being made at the same time) is a continuation of confield, and draft 7.30 is a continuation of gantz, only far more complex.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2003-04-14 20:58 [#00650682]
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What do you mean by "continuation"? They sound quite distinct to me. Obviously what they have done before is going to influence how they approach the new stuff, but do you hear a definite musical progression that is based on a linkage?
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optimus prime
on 2003-04-14 21:01 [#00650683]
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the sounds used in gantz graf, really grating sounds, small bits of melody popping up here and there, constant evolution. that's draft.
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Empiricus
from South Carolina (United States) on 2003-04-14 21:05 [#00650685]
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Right then, I'll give that a comparative listen.
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optimus prime
on 2003-04-14 21:39 [#00650722]
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cool beans.
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w M w
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 21:44 [#00650725]
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CONFEDELSD!! NO DRAFTS!! NO, WAIT I BHO-CHOOSE "NeeTHER-BOTH"
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optimus prime
on 2003-04-14 21:47 [#00650731]
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OMG YOU SO TOTALLY CHOSE BY NOT CHOOSING :o
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2003-04-14 22:41 [#00650809]
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Draft does not have the enormous replay value of Confield.... It gets boring to listen to constantly much much faster then Confield. IMO Confield sets the bar so incredibly high that I dont AE will ever top themselves.... Draft is an excellent record and an excellent follow up though.
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Laqeuro
from New York City (United States) on 2003-04-14 23:01 [#00650840]
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draft
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-05 13:37 [#00810318]
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confield
good thread
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-05 13:40 [#00810325]
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both
good thread
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-08-05 13:49 [#00810339]
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Confield.
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Refund
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-08-05 13:56 [#00810353]
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confield
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-08-05 14:00 [#00810360]
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WHY THIS VS
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acidophilus
from the gates of dawn on 2003-08-05 14:10 [#00810380]
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confield
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magicant
from Canada on 2003-08-05 14:11 [#00810383]
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confield
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-08-05 18:22 [#00810680]
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after having draft for a while, my opinion of it really hasnt changed, i still like confield much more, i see gantz graf as somewhat of a continuation of confield but draft is not the next step musicwise. i still like draft but theres just a few minor things missing, maybe major things, i cant tell, but it doesnt have the atmosphere that confield has--not even close actually.
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nacmat
on 2003-08-05 18:40 [#00810704]
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confield
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alnuit
on 2003-08-05 23:05 [#00811039]
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eh...get em all I'll say...though I'd hardly call Confield old style Ae :)...IMO it is pretty much new style Ae with more abstract beats and melodies than the pre-chiastic slide era stuff.
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disasemble
from United States on 2003-08-05 23:53 [#00811080]
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draft is good, but id go with confield. feels deeper.
the only song i really listen to on draft consistantly is surripere. its one of my autechre favorites. rest seems kinda light to me. well done, but not something id listen to lots.
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-08-06 00:00 [#00811085]
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no you guys
draft is the old style one
cause people think it's more like lp5 for some reason
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-08-06 00:13 [#00811089]
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conf...is better
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-08-06 00:28 [#00811102]
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confield
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-06 14:48 [#00812106]
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i dont know if i can decide.....
to me, draft definitely sounds like it was made after confield.. its like it has a more developed sound or something
so draft sort of has this edge because it sounds "fresher" to me... but ive also listened to confield a LOT more so i dont know
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AMinal
from Toronto (Canada) on 2003-08-06 14:51 [#00812107]
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i agree that draft is funkier, confield more melodic
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-08-06 14:52 [#00812109]
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confield
i would say that sim gishel / parhelic opens the door to draft :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-08-07 00:22 [#00812554]
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so... the winner is... confield?
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