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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 16:30 [#00648623]
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we've all heard the terrible, often mainstream acts that have in some way co-opted “intelligent” electronic elements into other styles of music. usually it doesn’t work. are there any good bands/artists that successfully combine electronic music with rock or with hip hop, jazz, etc..
some that i can think of that i enjoy: prefuse73, radiohead, nightmares on wax, american head charge (kinda), Amon Tobin, etc..
sorry if this has been discussed before.,.
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2003-04-13 16:33 [#00648628]
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Dido. Her album "No Angel" is excellent.
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spoonz
from Edmonton, AB (Canada) on 2003-04-13 16:35 [#00648631]
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if you ask me, it's usually "idm" taking elements from other genres of music, and using them.
but then again, i can never tell what exactly is 'idm' and what's not.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 17:05 [#00648664]
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agree with you about it taking from other styles of music, and i also don't know makes an “idm artist” exactly either, i was going to just put electronic instead of idm, but that would include much electronic music that i didn't intend to include.
i'll rephrase: who are some artists who’s music is more or less traditionally based, but also utilize electronics and like to push the boundaries and experiment, making their genre difficult to classify?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-13 17:19 [#00648671]
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BT's production for n'sync ("pop") and britney spears ("i run away") comes to mind for sure. a LOT of dance/teen pop actually, which i'm sure is a kick in the balls to a lot of you. what can i say, "idm elements" (insert snickering from career "idm" musicians) sounds cool and is actually pretty damn easy to listen to. now, the day ambient, noise, or breakcore starts making it into TRL songs will be quite interesting (not that it will happen).
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 17:28 [#00648675]
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i've lost a lot of respect for bt just now learning that he was a part of that awful song. not that i really enjoyed his music to begin with.. well i heard one song that was decent because it had m. doughty on it.
are there any good ones though?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-13 17:31 [#00648677]
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"pop" and "i run away" are pretty well done, i just choose not to listen to them. but to answer your question further, just pick one. if we're sticking to POP--million+ album selling disposable dance pop music--then almost all of it is idm influenced. the musicians who make the "backing" tracks obviously listen to it and they know it suits the songs they are paid to make. "good" is subjective. most of it is pointless/meaningless so you prolly won't enjoy any of it, no matter how well done.
as for idm influence in rock... see topic from a week ago.
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etched
from charlotte (United States) on 2003-04-13 17:31 [#00648678]
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the one with m.doughty is definitely awesome i liked m.doughty in his original setting though
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 17:41 [#00648687]
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m. doughty is great. i love the beautiful and bizzare images he creates with his words.
also, titsworth, i don't really mean pop music. i mean music in general that wouldn't really be considered electronic music, but borrows some elements from it to make something interesting and in your opinion, good.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-13 17:47 [#00648696]
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click here dude
doughty's stuff w/ soul coughing and his song w/ bt (actually there are several, but only one has been released) are so dope. i'm an oldskool SC fan. his solo acoustic stuff could be a lot better tho. i only really like the mary j. blige cover.
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etched
from charlotte (United States) on 2003-04-13 17:49 [#00648699]
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SC all the way man! voulez vous the bus!
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-13 17:51 [#00648701]
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thanks for the link titsworth "quadrilateral i was, now i warp like a smile."
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-04-13 17:54 [#00648705]
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Check out delerium! I love the stuff off of karma nice blend of electronic sound with vocals and what not
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Laserbeak
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-13 17:56 [#00648708]
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Bjork
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Clic
on 2003-04-13 21:51 [#00648871]
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Tortoise use electronics tastefully.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-04-13 21:54 [#00648873]
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DNTEL
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-04-14 03:07 [#00649081]
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prefuse 73 successful?!?!
you dont have to add idm elements to be experimental and push boundarys, look at bentley rhythm ace....
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 04:37 [#00649167]
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Who is M.Doughty?
My name is Gary Doughty.Seriously.
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-14 04:38 [#00649168]
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Oh and I'd say Air is pop with "IDM" influence.
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Kill Switch
from Belgium on 2003-04-14 05:14 [#00649213]
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I would say ...And justice for all by Metallica. Electronize the rythms, melodies and harmonies and you've got yourself an great, I hate the term, IDM album.
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mojogigolo
from Vic (Australia) on 2003-04-14 06:46 [#00649304]
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i poo on genre spotting
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-04-14 06:50 [#00649308]
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i urinate on genre spotting pooers.
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-04-14 06:51 [#00649310]
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i think charlie clouser from NIN did a pretty good job of integrating electronica into their music....too bad he's no longer with them.....
..like the remix to "Judith" by APC.
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boket
from Australia on 2003-04-14 09:13 [#00649525]
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The 'Neon Golden' album by The Notwist?
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-14 10:18 [#00649619]
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i don't like "genre spotting" but sometimes you have to use the terms to be understood by other people.
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Q4Z2X
on 2003-04-14 10:35 [#00649647]
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TonePu5her, m. doughty is best known as the singer for soul coughing
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hepburnenthorpe
from sydney (Australia) on 2003-04-14 11:20 [#00649719]
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godflesh?
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melack
from barcielwave on 2003-04-14 12:20 [#00649830]
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i always thought that sepultura's "roots" was a lot influences by electronic music...
and also ratm "evil empire"...
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