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from Mars (United States) on 2003-04-10 23:37 [#00644223]
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Does anyone know where or how i could get at least mp3s of BoC's earliest stuff? like Closes or Acid Memories or Hooper Bay or any of that stuff? i've heard it's great but its the hardest thing to find...
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DiaZoHeXagoN
from The city of angels (United States) on 2003-04-10 23:38 [#00644224]
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slsk maybe???
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-04-10 23:39 [#00644225]
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Myrtle Beach has some IDM record shops with some rare BOC stuff.
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from Mars (United States) on 2003-04-10 23:40 [#00644226]
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looked there and found nothing...earliest available there was Twoism
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from Mars (United States) on 2003-04-10 23:40 [#00644227]
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er, on slsk not MB
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IronLung
from the 91fwy in soCAL (United States) on 2003-04-10 23:45 [#00644236]
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NOwhere...hey are locked in a DIAMOND SEALED VAULT at the bottom of the Atlantic
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uviol
from United States on 2003-04-10 23:47 [#00644238]
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Good luck!! the best I've found is samples and some dubious mp3s .. as for hard copies I think I'll sooner see pigs fly.
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aron
from saskatoon (Canada) on 2003-04-10 23:53 [#00644243]
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you wont find that shit man
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-11 00:58 [#00644285]
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me too would love to get their old stuff, maybe warp/skam once will re-release more of them...
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:05 [#00644288]
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I got a guy who sends me stuff in the post(music usually),he says he has "acid memories" and he'll send me a copy,I'm not sure if he's just pulling my leg,If I do get it though,It will be on slsk for you guys straight away.
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-04-11 01:28 [#00644302]
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you are so the man !!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 01:37 [#00644312]
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He's a pretty legit guy too he sent me Windows Xp pro last week and it wasn't a copy either it was the real boxed thing...
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-11 02:05 [#00644333]
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What do you "do" for this guy in exchange, tone? ;)
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Murray
from Southend, Essex (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 02:47 [#00644376]
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It was rumoured that these realeses by BoC don't actually exsist. They just made them up to add to the whole mystery of the band.
But it don't choose to beleieve this...i really want to hear Acid Memories.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 04:30 [#00644477]
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i've got 'a few old tunes' on mp3. it has 17 trax, according to joyrex they are legit
i figured out the tracklisting:
1. Spectrum 2. Light, Clear Hair / P.C. 3. Trapped 4. Rodox Video / Happy Cycling (not same track as on Peel Session)
5. House of Abin'adab 6. Finity 7. Forest Moon 8. Skimming Stones 9. Carcan / Devil 10. Mansel 11. She is P 12. Davie Addison 13. Sac / Blockbusters / I Will Get It Tattooed 14. The Way You Show 15. I Love U 16. King of Carnival 17. M9 / Original Nlogax
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 04:33 [#00644482]
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here is a scan of the tape
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-04-11 06:41 [#00644622]
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no page :0(
ACCORDING TO JOYREX, hes pretty intimate about saying that all the old boc, isnt on slsk, its in the right hands as tapes only
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-04-11 07:17 [#00644665]
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i have some rare boc files... not very much tho...
my slsk is jAroen (mind the caps) if anyone wants em
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Odin
from the top o' the tree (Djibouti) on 2003-04-11 07:18 [#00644669]
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Joyrex probably keeps his copy up his asshole
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-04-11 07:20 [#00644671]
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thats not kool, just tellin ya what he says......
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-11 07:20 [#00644672]
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He doesn't have those releases...
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 07:22 [#00644680]
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READ ALL ABOUT IT HERE
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 07:24 [#00644682]
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he lied about these trax being fake in this thread, then later confessed they were legit
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2003-04-11 07:31 [#00644691]
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I have some boards of canada stuff like whitewater and that. Is that rare?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-11 07:36 [#00644695]
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Yes, but he doesn't have acid memories or hooper bay or closes...
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 07:39 [#00644698]
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he only has boc maxima
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-11 07:57 [#00644715]
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i cant believe i finally got soulseek working..
man!
made my night.
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-11 10:21 [#00644915]
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most of their early stuff were released on music70, which is boc's own label - I doubt they will ever re-release this stuff.
In general, the first releases were limited and often only given to their closest friends/relatives on cassette (some of them were re-released on cd through music70 though..).
Just forget it! If you ever come across old boc mp3-titles on slsk, they are probably fakes. I found a few from hooper bay, but to the best of my knowledge these are fakes too. It's kinda hard to verify that the tracks are real unless you know someone who's got 'em - and if you know someone who do, you'd probably have them already, wouldn't ya?
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 10:29 [#00644934]
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has nobody been listening to me? click the link to the watmm thread, read all the replies for proof that these tracks are real boc tracks. i'll quote jorex:
Alright, it's time this fucking nightmare ended - let's clear things up:
1) the tracks that have been leaked are legit - they belong to a collection of songs on a cassette called "A Few Old Tunes". They were created in small numbers for family and friends of Marcus and Michael Sandison. They were NOT meant for public consumption. One person who was given these tapes betrayed their trust (it's not important who), and as a result, numerous people got copies of the tracks. At this point, all they want to do is minimize the chance of these tracks coming out and being mislabeled/spread/sold online, as it's their art. These tracks WILL get mislabeled, in the vain attempt to 'create' other tracks on releases people wish were available, as has happened before with fake tracks people have made and others people thought sounded right. Why people do this is beyond me, as all it does is confuse fans and dilute BOC's reputation. Sharing of these tracks IS copyright violation. No ifs, ands or buts.
2) The reason I took the stance (and admittedly lied) saying they were fake was to try to prevent their spread - I happen to be friends with a member of Hexagon Sun, and I have been asked in the past to keep information about these releases off this board. It's not that BOC have anything to hide, it's just the fact this is their property and it was not meant for the public at large. Unfortunately, the situation has gotten out of control, and I feel that honesty is the best policy - I don't like to lie, especially to my freinds on this board and the visitors to this site, but I made a poor judgement call in deciding how to handle this. BOC/Hex Sun has never asked me to lie for them; I took this route of my own volition.
3) I ask every one of you who have downloaded tracks to please do not re-distribute them further - if you're a true fan of BOC's music, ap
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 10:30 [#00644939]
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, appreciate the fact you got to hear music you might otherwise not had gotten to, and keep them to yourself. Of course, you don't have to listen to me, but please consider BOC's feelings on the subject.
4) I apologize for betraying whatever trust you have (had) in me, and try to understand my intentions. I'm not trying to hoard these tracks for myself, for profit or otherwise.
5) I do NOT own any rare BOC (besides BOC Maxima) - even if I did, I would not share such tracks with anyone out of respect for BOC. Please do not ask me for unreleased material - the only thing I trade music-wise is live recordings, which most people who visit this site know I put up for everyone to hear when I can.
6) My stance on music sharing is mixed - I try to respect the artists' wishes in most cases, but any tracks I do happen to get in MP3 format, if I like them I make an attempt to purchase them (as is the case with my recent Brothomstates discovery and resulting purchase of both the Qtio EP and Claro LP, on both CD and vinyl.)
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-04-11 10:30 [#00644940]
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what did you say ? :0)
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-11 11:10 [#00644976]
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there's no way to verify that, AlbertoBalsam - I'll cook up a similar story and say I'm really Marus Eoin of Scotland, not nlogax of wherever.
Not that I doubt what you're saying, but for the sake of argument, it could just as easy be a prank.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-04-11 11:51 [#00645029]
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Fuck ?! Who is sharinng those Tracks they are talking in this long ass thread !? Please post your SLSK name, or contact me on SLSK, and lets share this fucker ! theeheh !!
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-04-11 12:25 [#00645062]
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The tracks are 100% legit, and already they are mislabeled/not split correctly (according to that tracklisting above).
If you respect BOC, don't download/distribute these any more than they have - I know that's hard when you're a fan, but if you truely respect them, then don't do it.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-11 12:30 [#00645068]
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i respect them alright.
i see your point, like the cassette archives of our own material that my mate and i have, we dont want anyone to hear.
but you know if i saw bocs early stuff available for download, id grab it for sure
wouldnt be able to help myself.
thats high praise if you ask me :)
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-04-11 12:32 [#00645071]
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i respect them, i dont have slsk, i havent heard any of them,
BUT WHY HOLD THEM BACK FROM THE FANS, ID BUY THEM ........
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-11 12:38 [#00645075]
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Sadly then, I do not respect them - what else can one expect when the material is available and ready to be downloaded?Morally wrong or not - I will forever continue my journey towards BoC's earliest material. I see it as a fundamental right to pursue this goal.
I mean, I'd give my right leg for all their releases - no doubt about that.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-04-11 12:40 [#00645081]
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high praise.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-04-11 12:43 [#00645083]
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I know, it's hard (I myself would be guilty of it if I used SLSK)...
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-11 12:46 [#00645089]
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it's there, people want it.. there's really nothing more to it than that - I honestly think your average BoC-whores are willing to push the respect-thingy aside to satisfy their own need for BoC-dr00gs..
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-04-11 12:46 [#00645091]
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Oh sorry Recycle - meant to answer your question as well:
It's not that they're 'holding them back' from the fans... this was art they created for themselves and a select few friends. They never had any intention of releasing these tracks (although some have ended up on other releases in different forms in some cases, even as late as appearing on Geogaddi). Plus, as artists, they are more interested in what they're doing *now* versus what they did 10+ years ago. Mike and Marcus respect the fans' desires a lot; that's why Twoism was reissued.
Anyone notice the recent flood of MASK EPs on Ebay recently? ;)
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from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-04-11 12:57 [#00645101]
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thanks for answering in length my question, your a good man no matter what others say......
yeah if i was an artist i can uddeerstand how they want to live in the future, but as a fan after i found the first peel session i can see the want/need for the older shit
i went back and found what i could in stores, including a $4.99 high scores :0)
--new not at a ma and pa shop
(no need to hide behind a black face Joyrex, your a very informed and formative person or cunt)
hope you dont take affence to the cunt, before i heard the phrase "come on you cunts lets have some afx acid" i to was affended by the word
(last question for now) did they re-release twoism and hi scores or was it a record company thing ?
thanks........thad......alan...........smoyer.......recycle ...........
if im ever down south (i kknow where ya live (state)) i NNNNNNNNEEEEEEEDDDDDDDD so see your music collection
p.s. can you please send me 2 plane tickets for me and my wife, can we bring our new dog lily?
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-04-11 15:40 [#00645357]
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LOL - you stay the hell away from me... and yer dog too! :)
The reissuance of Twoism was a fan thing - BOC felt bad people where paying 100's on Ebay for it.
Hi Scores was purely a SKAM decision, but I'm sure SKAM did it for the fans, as some fans complained HS was hard to get.
There are now 3 pressings of HS out there, hardly any difference between each pressing though.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-11 15:47 [#00645369]
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people seem to think that you do have stuff other than maxima, but i doubt you're gonna admit to it...
lucky git ;)
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-11 21:20 [#00645668]
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music is for listening. let's spread this around. fuck a collector's item, let's just enjoy the music, hippies on the lawn style.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-04-11 23:05 [#00645716]
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We'll enjoy the music when BOC decides they want their art to be shared with the rest of us - I respect them for that. As a fan, I HATE that, but my respect for them comes first.
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AlbertoBalsalm
from ReykjavÃk (Iceland) on 2003-04-11 23:06 [#00645720]
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joyrex: i made the tracklist from the scan of the tape, i thouht it was pretty accurate. could u e-mail me the right names?
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-04-11 23:08 [#00645723]
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i agree with titsworth.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-04-11 23:22 [#00645743]
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fortunately i don't respect them one iota. i understand what they're saying, but as a music listener it's absurd.
is it on the ftp yet?
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nlogax
from oh, you must be the brains (Norway) on 2003-04-12 11:01 [#00646656]
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I'm convinced - the material has to be authentic - sorry for being a buttplug on here earlier, but there's just so much fake BoC-shit going around these days..
so basically, I'm d/l'ing it now - right or wrong? I couldn't possibly care less.
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