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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-10 10:44 [#00642766]
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What right does one country have to control another?
Ever heard of sovereignty?
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hobbes
from age on 2003-04-10 10:46 [#00642768]
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promo...this obviously is a big deal though...otherwise you wouldnt be so vehement about your views....anyway....gnight....im off to join your cat in the land of nod.....
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-10 10:48 [#00642772]
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tolstoyed,
Of course its a big deal. I think the States have done a pretty good job in all in minimising casualties. Come on be fair. Lets get real this war is light compared to Kosovo, Nam, WW2 etc.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-10 10:48 [#00642773]
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Trying to reason with promo, an ignorant fool of questionable ethics, will only result in flaming as he has extensively demonstrated throughout this thread.
Because promo's view on life reaches as far as the tip of his nose this thread and anything that he has posted should not be taken seriously, it should be replied to with his favorite word:
LOL!
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hobbes
from age on 2003-04-10 10:51 [#00642779]
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maybe hes just really optimistic...lol
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hobbes
from age on 2003-04-10 10:51 [#00642781]
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nothing quite like a light war....
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-10 10:56 [#00642794]
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X-tomatic,
I've got ethics. What the fuck kind of screwed up ethics have you got? My fucking hole argument is based around ethics.
Don't give me this reason shit. Its the same with you, you're a complete pacifist and leftie so how the shit can anyone reason with that? You're even more rigid than those who are pro war. Crikey the hole war has been handled so carefully and yet you're still not happy.
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-10 10:59 [#00642806]
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Bombing busses with syrians and Kurds? now that's some precise warfare.
Shooting fleeing citizens, that's precise warfare.
That's being carefull.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-10 11:07 [#00642813]
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Morgoth,
I didn't hear about any buses being bombed, so I'm not going to comment on that.
Shooting fleeing citizens: I put a post about that topic on this same thread.
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2003-04-10 11:27 [#00642854]
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LOL@promo and ethics
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-10 11:35 [#00642875]
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i don't understand why everybody gives this promo-dude so much attention,
it's of no use debating with him, it looks like he got his arguments from some chatbox for 12year-olds and he refuses to listen to others, he's just so convinced with himself
it's obvious that he likes war, since he tries to cause one on this mb
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-10 12:49 [#00643002]
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Can I say then that certain media only give a part of the bitter reality of this war?
Like Tony Blair talking about the execution of 2 british soldiers and the terrible regime to blame for this while these men were killed in battle?
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-10 15:03 [#00643476]
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JESUS yes, thousands of people dying is indeed a BIG deal..!
wasn't that your whole point in the first place? how we should all be happy for the liberated people..?
where are your ethics then?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-04-10 15:30 [#00643551]
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War is nearly over now.. hopefully MB wars will draw to a close too...
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-04-10 15:31 [#00643553]
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qrter,
I'm not heartless and I say that sincerely. I think there have been a number of mistakes and bad approaches which has cost unnecessary lives. I would say though in terms of wars it has been handled pretty well. I hope they learn from it, and as a result, future conflicts, should be resolved as I see it with even less casualties.
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xian_ecci
from los angeles on 2003-04-10 15:47 [#00643581]
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"War is nearly over now.. "
war doesn't end, nor will the fight for peace.
'sloth' is on the speakers. i love that one.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 15:47 [#00643582]
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"Your crypto-communist far left loony socialist extremist, you're no friend of free people. You chicken shit coward. "
so socialism is obviously against freedom, yes? no!
and why do anti-fascists lose here?
you make no sense, and you seem to have taken the "freedom of iraqi people" as your own victory... what did u do?
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Morgoth
from Stella-town (Belgium) on 2003-04-10 15:59 [#00643592]
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I hope that future conflicts will be sorted out in a diplomatic way at first!
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OK
on 2003-04-10 16:22 [#00643618]
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promo think about this:
Bush is aiming to revive Reagan-years's U.S. policies (and that's a fact). The very same policies that created, encouraged and supported all those terrorist groups that bush is allegedly trying to erradicate now.
do you get the logical loop-hole here?
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 16:24 [#00643622]
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well, he's gotta recreate some terrorists, otherwise who will he fight?
well, actually terrorism will never cease, because terrorism is actually freedom fighting - if u take a different perspective.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-04-10 16:38 [#00643657]
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promo,
I really like the way you have replied to my topic. no snide comments etc.
really, I appreciate that.
although I don't agree with you on the way America handled this, I do hope they learn from it too.
thing is, there WILL be future conflicts with the US being the agressor. they have set a precedent. I must say I distrust the US government.
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GIR
from Easton on 2003-04-10 16:54 [#00643682]
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Promo, the way you wish to argue is fine and well, and I dont wish to tell my side of it, because i doubt anyone gives a shit about what i have to say, but i must ask you this? Why is everyone that opposes the Iraqi war labeled a leftist? As far as I know Rightists have opposed the war as well....please tell me..Id really like to know. And do avoid insults if you are unable to come up with a legitimate answer. Its ever so rude.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2003-04-10 17:30 [#00643736]
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dont forget the liberalists in the middle!
:-)
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