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LOL, they sold only 50 copies (out of thousand) of SLSK001 so far, and the thing costs only 5$ !? |
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jesus |
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Doesn't surprise me. Most people don't go on the forums so wouldn't even know. They should've done it so if you donate $5 you get privileges and the CD. Correct me if that's what they did, but I don't go on the forums... :) |
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haha, didn't they say we stole their 1MMV1 idea? |
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well, they're not part of slsk, just part of the slsk community. so I wouldn't know what kind of privileges they could give. |
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"so I wouldn't know what kind of privileges they could give." Faster downloads perhaps? I knew they were doing this, but didn't get involved. For me, Soulseek is too big too be a community. I think a good analogy would be XLT is a town where most people know each other and SS is a vast metropolis. Yes, you can arrange to meet people in a particular place there, but as to a sense of community about the whole thing... I think the downfall of this project is that few people know the other artists well enough to bother to dl stuff to have a listen etc. |
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.. what I said was, they are NOT part of slsk itself, only the community.. how can they give faster downloads..? |
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even so, 1000 is a LOT! wellknown small labels print lesser numbers of records.. |
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Well I think it's pretty dumb to expect people who spend all day downloading music for free to pay for it. There are exceptions of course, it was mentioned that 50 people paid for it. |
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When you donate to SS you get faster DLs. If this is an "official" SS project (I presume it is, it's on the SS website...) with Nir's blessing they could arrange this. I notice Ilkae contributed a collaboration to this, but they're listed as US (rather than Canadian & Polish)... strange. Is this the same ilkae as did pistachio island? Just out of interest which SS community are the contributers to this project? Do they hang out in the "Soulseek" chatroom? |
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i think its sad, i dont like seeing things fail... im sure a lot of time and effort went into it... but it was a bit Gung Ho to print 1000... best to start little imo. me and some friends are going to start a small label, our first 3 releases will be limited to 50 a piece... |
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from a thread about this same subject on the Planet Mu phorum - this is one of the artists speaking: "nah soulseekrecords is purely a democratic label run by the users of soulseek who share music and artwork etc.... its not run by any of the creators of soulseek." |
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Yes it is sad, especially for the couple of people who worked on, spent hours listening to submitted tracks etc. I also imagine they ended up out of pocket if they paid for them to be pressed. They should try selling them to alternative record stores in the real world. I'm sure a couple would carry it just on the strength of Ilkae being on there... I hope those 50 copy releases are going to be done by hand? I know record labels that put together releases of 1000 by hand! Best of luck with your label Teapot, plug it at your gigs and send promos to local music magazines. Your music is great and if the other artists are up to scratch you should do fine. |
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Ah cool, thanks for clearing that up Qrter. |
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its still very much in the planning process.. me and a friend of mine were both going to release ep's self funded, and the profit would be enough to put out another release... and so on... the idea is that it would grow and all that we would be out of pocket for would be the initial 2 releases... but anyway... my friend hasnt contacted me in ages and last i spoke to him he didnt seem bothered... so i guess it just sounded like a good idea to him at the time... so its just me now... my first release will come as soon as i have the money... and if my art does well in its exhibition next week, it could be very soon... but yeah... only 50 copies ... with a bonus disk for xlt friends :) what i really would love to do is a sampler compilation... i love those |
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when you're making a cd though, the best way is to get 1000 copies, it's cheaper per disc than say 500, so you sell less to break even. but slsk definately didn't break even |
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oh the delicious irony !! the worst of bad luck to em I say ! |
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I want to release an album but I'm poor, and haven't gotten around to sending a demo. :-( |
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exactly - they have a service that provides free downloads from other peoples records and cd's the same people who take time and money setting up labels/findiing and promoting new artists/doing pretty artwork etc . It's a bit rich to complain that their label has failed when they spend their time providing this rathe dodgy service.. I'm not sure if any shops and distributors would really sell the cd as well because they probably dissaprove of the soulseek website and the nature of their service .. That's not to say that downloading is all bad, I just think it needs to be done with responsibility because what goes around comes around and most electronic music labels are pretty small and fragile |
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I wonder if the slsk crew would appreciate people sharing their music on their own network? ;) |
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on the one hand, it's mean to laugh at others' misfortune. imagine if YOUR creative venture failed (eg: marlowe's record label, hepburne's web site, etc., not to single anyone out). it wouldn't be funny. on the other hand, there IS a delicious irony to "soulseek records" failing, considering how many people on soulseek don't buy albums. i'm not going to say something like "most" of them, "half" of them, etc., but you're kidding yourselves if you think everyone on soulseek buys a lot of music. that's obviously a big lie. so in that sense it was somewhat audacious to even assume 1000 people would be interested in buying a cd made up of (mostly) unsigned, unknown acts, even though i'm sure this project was started out of creative initiative, NOT greed. |
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you play with snakes you get bitten? this more than just delicious lrony it's more like " no shit nobody bought soulseek records" |
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Five dollars is too much even for the hugely popular soulseek records... |
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hefty records sells their albums for $10 a piece on their web site, including the hugely popular DOWNLOAD telefon tel aviv debut album, but people don't spare the ten bucks to pay for music they already love. so of course they won't take a risk and spend $5 on something that is probably crap... |
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well one of the revolutionary things about file sharing is that unsigned people can easily share their tracks i think . the fact is work goes into making records and people need to get paid for work - cd'and vinyl don't come free . it would be lovely to think i could get all autechres musiic for free or whatever but i think we'd all be fucked if the new one sold no copies and warp made a massive loss and warp closed or something . it's small labels that keep things alive - i'm not really interested in alot of stuff that comes out on warners or whatever i'm afraid |
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"According to our provider this was due to attacks on their routers." hax0r3d!!! personally, i didn't like soulseek records, but hot damn! i thougth theyd atleast sell half of what they pressed! |
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I'd never give those flakes the time of day because they claimed we were stealing their idea. How fucking childish. |
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true. |
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all the people that abuse soulseek, (with they're poultry and pies), running aroung screaming like skeleton warriors. |
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ive never used soulseek. |
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I asked to be taken off the FIRST SLSK 1 MMassacre compilation, cuz I didnt wanted to be associated with these loosers....HAHA, just joking. Anyway, the music on there isnt that spectacular, and when they started the project....noone was talking about a possible CD release. |
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well, im on the second soulseek cd and yeah, there are quite a few people who didnt like the idea of xltronic "stealing" the idea. but not everyone thinks that you know. hell, the idea of a one minute massacre was stole by countless other types of mixes like that. theres only a few people i talked to that looked down at the idea of xltronic doing a similar thing. they are no friends of mine. both sides just chill. blowing it out of proportion. |
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this guy has no meat |
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a few years ago thurston moore released a cd of remixes of 1 minute of music he sent to a dozen or two artists. that's not the only example i can think of this either. so, yea, you're right. |
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absorb gave the one minute massacre an 8 oddly enough not sure why. i made my track over dinner |
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it's called root on lo recordings - he gave laods of different artists a minute snip of music and let them remix them luke vibert damon albarn and loads of other people |
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hey! 'xltronic' did not steal the idea. xltronic wasnt involved at all. it was something some members did.... |
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A good example of why people should ask for permission before applying the "xltronic" stamp of approval to their own projects, eh? |
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for sure! |
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I just found this thread... Soulseek Records isn't really a succeed and fail sort of thing... it's a continuous project whether we sell CDs or not. We're always doing projects, making music and showcasing artists, because that's how it started in the first place. When the first release was put together, there were only a total of about 500 people using the program. The idea of an actual label wasn't even an idea back then. If we're able to print CDs, we do. While we wait for funds to be raised, everybody does what they normally do: make music... There's alot of hostility on this board... I'm not sure why (other than the whole 1mmv1 fiasco)... Anyway, I just dropped by to clear things up - It's not just a record label... it doesn't depend on sales for survival... it's just a bunch of people making music and having a place to distribute it. The site is getting a redesign in a week or so that'll give anybody who signs up their own account and artist page. Look at it as kind of a zebox type thing that releases hard-copy albums every now and then... and then add the irony of the fact that it spawned from a file sharing program - and you'll get the point. As for printing CDs - 1,000 is definitely the cheapest route, so that'll probably be the process for awhile. I don't know where Monoid got his numbers, but alot more than 50 people have put forth their money for the first release, and the 2nd release (1mmv1) has surpassed it by far. But again, there's no rush in this thing... Slsk Recs is off the beaten path from the normal drama of the music industry, and hopefully people will get the picture that it exists in its own right and money never comes close to putting a dent in creativity. Astrid-gil-botn - you've got the right idea about file-sharing being a revolutionary tool for musicians... that's kinda the vision for the website as well. And yeah, alot of work goes into printing and mailing CDs and such... But honestly, going to the post office once a week to m |
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what's a "soulseek"? |
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(cont) to mail these things doesn't bother me at all... in fact I kinda like it. |
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word ! stop the hate, spread the love ! long live xltronic and soulseek records ! |
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Soulseek is great. i released a pre beta version of my album under the name "Kalaim Badkaama beyond the jumphole". Dl it. it's free. love peace. mushrooms. Coffee. spaceship. |
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Now look at this, dont diss SLSK, or youll be fuxxored lol : [kdp] monoid , you shouldn't even be allowed to use this program [kdp] you fucking waste of text |
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Nothing wrong with dissing slsk if you use facts and not made up numbers. :0 |
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