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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 06:37 [#00605630]
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Fucking pisses me off. Not the first time I've lost an auction that way. It's fucking annoying. I was winning that 2 remixes for cash 12" with a bid $17 over what it was at currently. Then some cunt had to come and bid me out at the last minute. I'm feeling fucking murderous at the minute. I want that fucking record a lot and some other fucking bastard does that lowlife tactic. Happened with HAB a while ago. Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaghhhhhh! I'm so pissed off.
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Erronous
from Netherlands, The on 2003-03-20 06:40 [#00605631]
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such is life... happened to me once!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 06:42 [#00605635]
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Doesn't it really make you mad though? I don't mind so much if they've bid on it to start with but when they've blatantly just been watching the auction it's really annoying. It's rude in my opinion.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 06:45 [#00605640]
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But... but... that's what I do!!!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-20 06:46 [#00605644]
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It's a standard e-bay practice! It's what any sensible person does! Bids only at the last minute!
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 06:49 [#00605649]
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yeah, that's ebay
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blipseed
from Virgin Islands (US) on 2003-03-20 06:50 [#00605654]
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At the end of the day he obviously bid more than you did regardless of when he did it. If you were willing to pay more you should've bid more.
I've been outbid at the last minute so many times now I'm actually surprised when I ever do win an auction. But everybody's in the same boat. It could've been you placing that last minute bid. You can't blame the other guy for wanting the record as badly as you.
And no, I'm not that other guy...
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 06:52 [#00605656]
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It can't be standard!!!!! Otherwise no-one would bid on anything until the last minute and there'd be a mad scramble to bid. I'm in a bad mood anyway today so maybe I'm over-reacting. I don't know. I really wanted that record and that's just tipped my mood over the edge. I'm royally pissed off now. Even the e-mail from WarpMART saying my 26 mixes for cash has been dispatched has not placated me. I may get an anonymous e-mail account and flame the person. That may make me feel better.....
Jar: Well I'm going to join you in the practice now. No longer will I lose auctions that I want. No more shall I get excited at the thought I will have whatever I'm bidding for. Oh no! I WILL WIN MY AUCTIONS! By the way, I'll let it slide that you do it because you haven't done it to me ;)
The worst case was when I was bidding on Dance to the Music. There were two auctions for it. One finished a day later and neither had a bid on them. I went for the earlier one. No-one else bid until the last minute when some twat outbid me. Prick. He could've just waited for the one that was the next day! What's with that? Surely that's not common practice.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 06:56 [#00605666]
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It's just the fact that they did it at the last minute. They showed no interest in it before. That's what annoys me. I think $50 was high enough above what it was when I bid. It was on $20 so I allowed for buffering. When you look at an auction that you're winning and it's only got a matter of minutes left and ut hasn't changed then I don't see a need to increase
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 06:59 [#00605672]
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you can always insert a maximum bid (just take the max. you want to pay for it), if someone bids in the last minute you'll outbid them automatically
if no-one bids there's no problem, you just pay the lower price you bid
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 07:00 [#00605675]
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I did put a max bid. $50. I thought that would've been enough. Oh well. Next time I'll just put a stupid amount.
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blipseed
from Virgin Islands (US) on 2003-03-20 07:05 [#00605688]
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Yeah, but you could end up paying way above the odds. It'll always turn up again, and the price will steadily decrease for the first while. Then in a year or so it'll go up again.
I remember a guy was selling two copies of the Schaft CD with the Autechre and Coil remixes, finishing 2 minutes apart. The first copy ended up getting several last minute bids and went for $35, while the second copy was snapped by me for $8.50 while evrybody else got over the disappointment of losing the first one.
So you see eBay can be kind to you too.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 07:11 [#00605700]
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Hmmmmmm, well that;s consoled me slightly. I still have an urge to break something though. I can't find it auctioned anywhere else either.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 07:13 [#00605706]
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But it doesn't make it representative of an auction, which is what ebay is meant to be. It then becomes a game of who can type quickly/has the fastest internet connection.
Giginger - watch out, putting a very silly high price is dangerous if the seller employs shill bidders :/
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 07:25 [#00605733]
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Ahh...ebay. Don't you just love and hate it? I can't stop going on the bloody thing.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 07:26 [#00605738]
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I'm close to tears actually.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 07:27 [#00605740]
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It then becomes a game of who can type quickly/has the fastest internet connection.
I'm fucked on all of those :(
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-03-20 07:28 [#00605744]
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I love e-bay. My member name is
marlowe_is_dead
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 07:36 [#00605763]
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I lost two items that way... but to be honest thats what I do now
sorry
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 07:44 [#00605782]
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I reckon ebay shouldn't show bid time left. You just new to within 24 hrs. That'd be lush.
Spikee: "Don't you just love and hate it?"
Exactly how I feel :) I've got quite good at being able to browse without buying though. Or at least put the minimum bid on things I know will go for more (I've actually won one thing for 50p that way as no one else bidded on it!)...
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 07:46 [#00605783]
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I'm gonna block ebay from my computers eventually. I'm bidding on 10 different things and I don't get paid for five fucking days!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 07:53 [#00605795]
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Yeah, that's the worst- when you have to send a cheque (rather than paypal) so it takes longer for it to clear and it's after payday.
I will be so poor after ATP :/
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-20 07:54 [#00605799]
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If I can find another copy in Tokyo, it is all yours giginger-san
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-03-20 07:55 [#00605802]
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Experience, man..... experience. :)
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-20 08:04 [#00605815]
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i always open ebay in two seperate windows and have one open to the confirm bid page and one on the item page. i keep refreshing the page and when i get outbid i bid on the other page. somebody otu bid me in the last minute but i still won it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 08:09 [#00605817]
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Cunning!
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-20 08:11 [#00605823]
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Ebay has ruined the fun of trawling record shops for cool stuff.. Last time I was in london at christmas I am sure all the record shops I used to haunt when I lived there (berwick st, record and vid exhanges in Camden, Notting Hill etc) had far less of interest than they used to.
Nowadays anything even slightly rare and valuable bypasses the shop shelves and goes straight onto ebay where it is snapped up by people with too much money and not enough time to trawl the shops for rarities in the time honoured fashion... This is only good for people with a lot of money (and no time) rather than the people who really want the tunes and are willing to put the time in to find them..
Am i talking bollox or anyone agree?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 08:15 [#00605833]
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I agree totally dude. Steel Wheels in Newcastle have not clicked onto this yet which is good. They had HAB2 for £20 but I didn't get it.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 08:22 [#00605852]
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Totally agree.
Although that said I found 12" original mo wax issues of clubbed to death #1 and #2 for £7 each in a local record store only last year! :D
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-20 08:24 [#00605858]
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Ah the record shops of newcastle...
Are Concepts and RPM still going?
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-20 08:25 [#00605862]
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if there was a record store in my area then i wouldn't shop on ebay but it's my only option.
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-20 08:26 [#00605869]
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Yeah its true.. sometimes you do get a bargain and then you have warm and fluffy thoughts about ebay - but when you get shafted you wish a swift and painful demise upon the whole site....
I am sore with it right now since I got fucked on a banco de gaia record I really wanted
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 08:28 [#00605872]
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RPM is but it's changed apparently, It used to have loads of vinyl but when I looked them up it seemed mainstream. Concepts? Never heard of. :/ Newcastle is not good for underground techno really but this may change.
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Joyrex
from watmm.com (United States) on 2003-03-20 08:31 [#00605881]
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That 2 Mixes For Cash 12" Japanese release is limited to 1000 copies.
Congrats to Phob for getting the J4 first pressing - I was unfortunately too busy at work to swoop in at the last minute to take it :)
Giginger: You just gotta know how to play the game man... trust me, it's much more exciting when you swoop in and grab a goodie from someone who's thinking they'll pay some undervalued amount, or when you're fighting hard for a rarity with 20 other bidders.
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TokyoJo
from London now, not Tokyo anymore on 2003-03-20 08:32 [#00605885]
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RPM used to be cool - I got some great stuff there back in about 95/96 when I was in Newcastle a lot..
Concepts used to be the other side of the Haymarket station from RPM, just close to where the recruitmen office for the Royal Marines is/was. ( I think - my memory is hazy and shit) There was another really good record shop somewhere around there as well..
There was a lot of shit happy house / hardcore stuff in newcastle in those days...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 08:34 [#00605893]
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I like buying stuff off someone that outbid me so I can get their address. }:>
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-03-20 08:35 [#00605898]
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joyrex: cheers!
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NeoExmnist
from United States on 2003-03-20 08:36 [#00605902]
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i instant messaged one guy who outbid me in the last minute on 'american massive'. he was pretty cool. he was gonna be spinnin at a house party and wanted some visuals to go with it.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 08:39 [#00605909]
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Back then I was listening to europop and death metal >.< When I got into Rephlex I was really annoyed because they made the music I wanted but could never find. I missed a lot. I used to go for the techno with German appeal but I had no idea how to shop outside of HMV. :(
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 08:40 [#00605911]
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Oh and Mokum gabber. :> I like my gabber.
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-03-20 08:40 [#00605912]
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Are there any possibilities of "regretting" a bid?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 08:48 [#00605934]
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I regret it whenever I pay a large amount but it normally fades after a while.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-03-20 08:53 [#00605949]
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Yeah, you can retract a bid although its not very popular. :-/
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 08:57 [#00605961]
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Ha ha, that's excellent :)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2003-03-20 08:58 [#00605965]
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Heh, errr.. sorry man, bad joke? ;)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-03-20 09:09 [#00605975]
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joyrex: 2 Mixes For Cash 12" is limited to 300 copies, not 1000 - due to my sources.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 09:11 [#00605976]
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Yeah, that's what I heard too...
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mortsto-x
from Trondheim/Bodø (Norway) on 2003-03-20 09:17 [#00605981]
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I'll stay in then.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 09:18 [#00605983]
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I love you man!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-20 09:20 [#00605985]
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I know I know but... well I'm not happy. In a better mood now though people. I received a text message that cheered me up no end,
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