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offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 02:20 [#00605212]
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I have heard this uttered by several politicians recently.
How does this actually work?


 

offline Dolleater from Afrika Bambaataa on 2003-03-20 02:28 [#00605214]
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Im against the war... becuase of the troops.


 

offline Charles D Ward from ASS, okay? (United States) on 2003-03-20 02:28 [#00605215]
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NOTHING WORKS

8((((


 

offline map from mülligen (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 02:29 [#00605217]
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iraq is attacking kuwait...


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 02:30 [#00605218]
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Didn't I hear iraq used chemical weapons as well as gas this
morning? Strange, I thought all the chemical weapons had
been destroyed...


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 02:32 [#00605219]
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don't underestimate how sneaky they can be.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 02:34 [#00605220]
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"they"? Are you implying the govt. used chems on our own
troops to make it appear justified going to war (I.e. iraq
had chems?)


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 02:37 [#00605222]
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Who knows? I was watching this fucking braindead bitch on
sky news this morning live from kuwait and she was loving
every minute of it. She couldn't wait to get her gas mask
on.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 02:39 [#00605223]
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He he, the new female war correspondant on the BBC is a fox.
I managed to get a great sample of my flat mates last
night... "Corr... she's alright- yeah, yeah!... better than
kate aidie by a long way..."


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 02:43 [#00605229]
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It makes the war much more palatable when it's being
presented by a fuckable newsreader.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 02:48 [#00605231]
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Yeah, particularly when she's dressed like a character out
of mad max. It made me break my "I don't give a damn about
the war, so I'm not watching" stint...

I was actually about to leave the room when the fat guy with
a voice like one of the blokes off "The Fast Show" was
presenting then it cut to her. Sad to see her nearly getting
gassed this morning.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 02:58 [#00605242]
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I just wish that they would attack in the daytime. I can
hardly see a fucking thing on my tv apart from a few sparks
of gunfire in the darkness. I didn't buy a new widescreen tv
just for that. I want to see some action.


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 03:05 [#00605248]
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They should put a load of cameras in a 180 arc at the front
of each uk base camp there. It'd be lush to have "bullet
time" footage of mortar attacks/ gas canisters releasing gas
etc.

Those US machine guns are sweet though- the ones that glow
white hot at night after 1000 rounds. You wouldn't be able
to see that at day.

I wish there was a 24 web cast from each of the frontline
bases. It'd kick ass- get the public involved... might gain
more support for the war effort. They could txt/email in,
"Hi guys, love the show, I think I spotted some rag heads
moving around in the left of the picture on camera 4. Might
want to go check it out..."


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 03:24 [#00605277]
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I just hope the Iraqi's put up a better fight this time.
Last time round it was a bit like watching paul newman fight
george kennedy in cool hand luke. Apparently, they've just
scudded Kuwait, so at least they're trying. Scud missiles.
They even sound shit.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 03:26 [#00605281]
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ahah so you do believe the cameras
interesting.. :)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 03:27 [#00605283]
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Nah, the war is all CGI. It's not really happening. The
troops are jsut off on a pig piss up at the taxpayer's
expense ;)


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 03:30 [#00605289]
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Seems the troops prayers for "a strong and willing enemy"
have gone unanswered. The Iraqis don't want a war and
they're not exactly a replacement enemy for the USSR.


 

offline TonyFish from the realm of our dreams on 2003-03-20 03:33 [#00605294]
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'bullet time' gas attacks. hmm. nice one.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 04:02 [#00605327]
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i assume most posts in this thread are sarcastic


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 04:07 [#00605332]
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I can't speak for others, but my ones about the chems and
new war correspondent were serious.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 04:14 [#00605349]
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I just wish that they would attack in the daytime. I can
hardly see a fucking thing on my tv ... I want to see some
action


They should put a load of cameras in a 180 arc at the
front of each uk base camp there. It'd be lush to have
"bullet time" footage of mortar attacks/ gas canisters
releasing gas etc. Those US machine guns are sweet though-
the ones that glow white hot at night after 1000 rounds. You
wouldn't be able to see that at day.
I wish there was a 24 web cast from each of the frontline
bases. It'd kick ass- get the public involved... might gain
more support for the war effort. They could txt/email in,
"Hi guys, love the show, I think I spotted some rag heads
moving around in the left of the picture on camera 4. Might
want to go check it out..."


to me this sounds like: "ow how great war is! wouldn't it be
great seeing people and houses bombed?"

no offense please, i agree that there should be reporters
and cameras giving an objective view of it all

but this gave me the idea as if you guys consider this
'great tour-of-duty'-like action' .. i mean this is real,
war isn't entertainment imo


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 04:16 [#00605351]
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never assume morton. You make an ASS out of U and ME. God, i
love that one.


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 04:17 [#00605356]
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so they have shitty cameras just to avoid the entertainment
part ??
haha


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 04:20 [#00605359]
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Sorry if I didn't make myself clear in the previous post...
the following statments I made were serious:

"Didn't I hear iraq used chemical weapons as well as gas
this
morning? Strange, I thought all the chemical weapons had
been destroyed... "

""they"? Are you implying the govt. used chems on our own
troops to make it appear justified going to war (I.e. iraq
had chems?) "

"He he, the new female war correspondant on the BBC is a
fox.
I managed to get a great sample of my flat mates last
night... "Corr... she's alright- yeah, yeah!... better than

kate aidie by a long way..." "

"Yeah, particularly when she's dressed like a character out

of mad max. It made me break my "I don't give a damn about
the war, so I'm not watching" stint...

I was actually about to leave the room when the fat guy with

a voice like one of the blokes off "The Fast Show" was
presenting then it cut to her. Sad to see her nearly getting

gassed this morning. "

The others were jocular.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 04:27 [#00605369]
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yeah i read that one only after i'd post my 2nd reply
i thought that already, that you were serious in those you
mentioned and that the others were jocular ( <-- nice word
:) never used it before)
glad we understand eachother now :)


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 04:30 [#00605370]
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This whole "war" is one big fucking television advert to
show the whole world that america are in charge again. The
stock market will recover, the economy will improve and
everyone will be happy. Except any iraqi's that get in the
way.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 04:30 [#00605372]
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gotta remember that one, it's funny


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 04:32 [#00605376]
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yes exactly, and it's a very sad thing imo


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 04:35 [#00605381]
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Course they'll be happy Bill. They'll be "liberated".


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-20 04:37 [#00605388]
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Finland laments the launching of military action by the U.S.
and its allies, and says that the use of military force
without the specific authorisation of the UN Security
Council is unacceptable.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 04:43 [#00605397]
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And you speak for the whole of finland do you? Even the fat
finns?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-20 04:44 [#00605400]
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ITS ALSO ILLEGAL.


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 04:45 [#00605402]
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that's so lame


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 04:45 [#00605404]
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ahah bill hicks


 

offline Morton from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-03-20 04:46 [#00605406]
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yeah bush just does what he feels like, they should
"liberate" (in terms of Ceri ;) ) him imo


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 04:47 [#00605409]
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bush was almost crying yesterday.
mmhhh its an alarm to be slaped


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-20 04:51 [#00605420]
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"We must become the owners, or at any rate the controllers
at the
source, of at least a proportion of the oil which we
require." -
British Royal Commission, agreeing with Winston Churchill's
policy towards Iraq, 1913.



 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 04:54 [#00605426]
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"there will never be a female prime minister in my lifetime"
- margaret thatcher 1975.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-20 04:57 [#00605436]
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"The target suffered a terminal illness before a firing
squad in Baghdad."

- CIA officer testifying to US Senate hearing, after bloody
CIA aided Ba'th Party coup overthrew Iraqi Prime Minister
Abdel Kassem, 1963



 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 05:00 [#00605445]
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"if you take away the air of the sky, then the birds
couldn't fly and they would scratch on the ground"
Jean Claude Van Damme 2001


 

offline flea from depths of your mind (New Zealand) on 2003-03-20 05:00 [#00605447]
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there were no biological or chemical weapons in those Iraqi
attacks..we watch the propaganda unfold..

as far as supporting the troops bollocks goes..that's once
again the oldest ploy..from someone who was there and
present in the US during Gulf War I...this is how it
works..

1.Create an easily reproduced object as a totem..like post
9/11 it was the US flag..in 1991 it was a yellow ribbon.
2.Attach a loaded question as a representation of this
totem..In 1991 it was that you are supporting your troops by
wearing/displaying the yellow ribbons.
3.Castigate those who refuse...massive rallies of over
weight middle aged women went charging around like wounded
rhinos physically attacking those not wearing/displaying the
yellow ribbons claiming that those opposed to the yellow
ribbons were in support of the slaughter of our troops, our
children..media picked up on that and those not displaying
yellow ribbons were not only unpatriotric but also
barbarians and buthcers that believed the slaughter of
innocent teenaged troops fighting in the middle east. Pretty
soon people were frightened not to wear or display the
yellow ribbons.
4.Misrepresent the representation of this totem...once the
yellow ribbons become a part of the US psyche..with people
willingly or otherwise..wearing it..decorating their front
porches streetlights etc with it..all of the sudden the
President proclaimed that he had the full support of the US
population..the media would show pictures of rows upon rows
of houses and people and trees and streetlights and shops
etc decorated with yellow ribbons...I knew many people who
were vehemently opposed to the bombings of Baghdad but were
too scared to show dissent.


 

offline neetta from Finland on 2003-03-20 05:04 [#00605461]
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bill, i copy-pasted that from the news. so yes i am also
talking for the fat finns.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-20 05:06 [#00605470]
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"One hundred nations in the UN have not agreed with us on
just about
everything that's come before them, where we're involved,
and it didn't
upset my breakfast at all."

- Ronald Reagan, former US President,
baskingin the triumph that was the US invasion of Grenada,
1983



 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 05:10 [#00605480]
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"i did not have sexual relations with that woman" - bill
clinton 1998


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-20 05:12 [#00605482]
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Q. "Mr. President, have you approved of covert activity to
destablise the present government of Nicaragua?"

A. "Well, no, we're supporting them, the - oh, wait a
minute, wait a minute, I'm sorry, I was thinking of El
Salvador, because of the previous, when you said Nicaragua.
Here again, this is something upon which the national
security interests, I just - I will not comment." - Ronald
Reagan, former US President, Washington press conference,
February 13th, 1983


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 05:13 [#00605486]
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"i did not have any sexual relationship with that man,
mister saddam hussein"
bush, just befor bombing


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-03-20 05:16 [#00605492]
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Why're people taking this so seriously, it's just boys
being boys. Everyone likes the odd bit of "rough and tumble"


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offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 05:25 [#00605505]
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"read my lips, no new taxes" - george bush, 1992


 

offline glass_eater from a blind nerves area (Switzerland) on 2003-03-20 05:26 [#00605507]
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LMAO


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-20 05:38 [#00605520]
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Nobody's answered my question yet.

How can you be against the war but for the troops?


 


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