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offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:03 [#00599311]
Points: 1385 Status: Lurker | Followup to jonesy: #00599307



why would i have to tell people that? they know it. have
you ever seen footage of an iraqi complaining about the
gov't? no cuz theyd be killed


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-17 07:06 [#00599319]
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US War Plan


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-17 07:07 [#00599326]
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North Korea's status


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:08 [#00599327]
Points: 1385 Status: Lurker | Followup to Red: #00599319



ok so the usa wants a quick war. that would be cheaper for
the u.s. people. wants wrong with that?


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-17 07:08 [#00599330]
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No, I meant that the US is the biggest threat to the Iraqis.
It will be the US and the UK who will be murdering Iraqis
tomorrow.


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:12 [#00599333]
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the usa doesn't want to kill innocent civilians. they just
want to destroy the gov't built by saddam.

RED: what are you trying to tell me? i read both of those
and i don't see your point.


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:13 [#00599334]
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im sure that lots of people in iraq just want to be over
with this and want to live their lives in peace. theyd
prolly be happy to get rid of saddam and start a new gov't.


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-17 07:21 [#00599356]
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The whole of the Middle East was the Muslim ottomon empire
with its seat of power in Turkey not unlike USA or UK or
EEC...after the WW1 after which Britain started carving it
up...Iraq was bordered by Kuwait by the British in 1927
leaving the country landlocked without access to shipping.
After the WW2 Americans and Russians started to play the
various states in the Middle East like chess pieces for the
different manovering and power plays involving the Cold War.
At same time the Middle East has been kept on the brink of
chaos because it suits the purposes of Israel and US so
NeoExmnist you have it the other way around. If it wasnt for
the constant intervention by the US mostly in support of
illegal activities by Israel the Middle East would be a lot
more stable terrority.


*look at afgahnastan, people protested
that too. but now a political system is actually trying to
evolve. the u.s.a. is so horrible.*

right...ripe for oil and natural gas companies to pick and
the World Bank and IMF have already spread their tenacles in
there will be soon devoid of any means of economic control
over their own country's resources. Works like a clockwork
the step by step disassembling and rearranging of entire
nation for the benefit of the corporate capitalist world.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-17 07:23 [#00599361]
Points: 6650 Status: Lurker | Followup to NeoExmnist: #00599334



I'm sure they would if they lived through our bombing raids.


 

offline bill_hicks from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-03-17 07:24 [#00599367]
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Do you think saddam's looking well, though?


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-17 07:27 [#00599378]
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heard of "soft targets" codeword for civilians

I think you may need a reality check that the Iraqis want
the sanctions to be lifted so they can go back to living the
way they did before in peace... they dont want to be killed
by US bombs


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:28 [#00599381]
Points: 1385 Status: Lurker



oh ok so if the u.s.a. wouldn't have helped afgahnastan
eventually they would have formed a nice gov't and started
selling the oil and making money and building the economy?
nothing would have ever happened. nothing is happening now.
all ur doing is assuming this is all about oil. all the us
wants is oil. that;s not the answer to everything yanno.

i still say the middle east was completely fucked before the
usa. with all the different mixes of religions, there will
never be peace.


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-17 07:30 [#00599384]
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3 of the cloned lookalikes look like they spend too much
time in the spa but one of them is looking a bit under the
weather though


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:30 [#00599386]
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do you think the bombs are aimed at civilians? no they're
aimed at military fortifications. what would be the
advantage of killing 1000's of civilians. war isn't about
killing everybody, it's about defeating your opponents
offense.


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:31 [#00599391]
Points: 1385 Status: Lurker | Followup to Red: #00599378



the people of iraq will never be in peace as long as they
keep bombing each other. people are walking around with
bombs attached to them walking into buses and blowing them
up. they get satisfaction in killing each other.


 

offline NeoExmnist from United States on 2003-03-17 07:34 [#00599398]
Points: 1385 Status: Lurker



the usa isn't the good guy for sure. i wish bush would just
back the fuck up and let it be. i don't agree with the u.s.
constantly monitoring the middle east.


 

offline Red from Hell (New Zealand) on 2003-03-17 07:37 [#00599403]
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the US abandoned Afghanistan after the Russians left and
Taliban got into power with the blessing of the US
government so what is your point?

about the middle east that is bollocks..it was no more
fucked up than your own US is. Why dont we concentrate on
some of the issues in your country..the middle east was far
more peaceful than your country was right about the time of
say the Civil War. How far back do you want to go? Go and
watch Gangs of New York and at that time a little something
else called Colonisation had happened as well so once again
the problems that the Middle East had had next to nothing to
do with their own religous or sectarian differences that you
want to keep alluding to and everything to do with Western
interference


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-03-17 07:47 [#00599427]
Points: 6650 Status: Lurker | Followup to NeoExmnist: #00599391



OK, that is racism plain and simple. Fool.


 

offline LuckyPsycho from a long way from home (United Kingdom) on 2003-03-17 07:54 [#00599443]
Points: 369 Status: Lurker | Followup to NeoExmnist: #00599391



"the people of iraq will never be in peace as long as they
keep bombing each other. people are walking around with
bombs attached to them walking into buses and blowing them
up. they get satisfaction in killing each other. "

Bollox...
I was going to write a more informed reply, but the
ignorance shown here is so incredible that I wouldn't know
where to start. Read a bit of world history.


 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2003-03-17 11:12 [#00599982]
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Red,

Sweet, you are pig ignorant. These new governments like 'The
Taliban' should of course get the blessing of the West to
start with. Thats why they go into power in the first place,
little point in them going into power without the West's
blessing eh. If subsequently they go bad then the West
should then do something to solve the problem.

However the sum of your argument if I'm correct is er
because the West don't get every decision exactly right that
makes them imperfect therefore they shouldn't do anything
ever again to attempt to do something right or do the right
thing. On that same logic that means that if you get fired
from a job that no one should employ you ever again because
you haven't been absolutely perfect up until then (even
though your intentions were honourable in the first place -
that is to do a job to the best of your abilities and take
home a pay package).


 

offline George_Kaplan on 2003-03-17 11:30 [#00600032]
Points: 838 Status: Regular



it's all about money. forget every other 'reason'.
anyway it's gonna be irrelevant in 50 years cos by then
america wont be a superpower any more. china, brazil and
india are waiting in the wings and will take up control as
america's economy finally crumbles.
by then no-one will care what america wants. they already
have serious economic problems, and i would say theyre
setting themselves up for the biggest fall ever.
let them get on with fucking themselves.
it's like a school bully. if u wind them up enough
eventually they fuck themselves because their desire to
destroy is so great.



 

offline Cfern from Sacto (United States) on 2003-03-17 11:56 [#00600102]
Points: 1384 Status: Lurker



look i thought this thread should die but....

the name of this topic makes it seem like i'm pro war i'm
not......just a realist who knows that we are on the eve of
war and i'm a idealist who believes that there will be a
optimistic outcome for all involved....

1. the country can be split into to countries kurdistan and
lower iraq....
2. the oil belongs to the iraq people to sell on the free
market to whoever wants to buy it.... yes of course the us
will buy tons..... but so will every only industrialized
nation in the world...... oil prices will plumet.... no more
french and russian monoply....
3. of course the people would rather not have a
totalitarian dictator who kills them....... all people want
freedom... the people of iraq are actaully the least
religous.... i.e. not many islamic zealots who want to kill
all non-believers.....
4. whats done is done and the un totally fucked this whole
situation up as did bush, blair and other leaders....
oviously diplomatic errors were made....
5. the us attacted yugoslavia in the 90's without the
un...we still have 30,000 troops over there.... nobody
blicked....
6. the reason?? becuase this time there were powerful
anti-american, anti-capitalist orginazations who had the
time to orginize all this ... i am not making this up...
check out who orginzed the anti-war meetings that You
attended...
7. that's it...war is here a people will be liberated, an
oil monoply broken, people blown up with bombs.... the whole
war thang... i hope it's over quick

ps. north korea certainly is a threat much much greater than
iraq... they have nuclear missles that can reach any
american city and military of 1.2 million people.... which
is larger than the us's.... the us knows it would be a
bloody battle almost immpossilbe to win ..... which is why
north korea remains a threat to all



 

offline promo from United Kingdom on 2003-03-17 12:35 [#00600195]
Points: 4227 Status: Addict



George_Kaplan,

Poor you were you bullied at school? Are you fucked up for
life? Lol.


 

offline George_Kaplan on 2003-03-17 14:39 [#00600456]
Points: 838 Status: Regular




i dunno. it depends on your definition of fucked.



 


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