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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:16 [#00561370]
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I've just read the article on the Warp website about the piano tracks on Druqks....I never knew he couldn't actually play keyboard at all! I'm kinda amazed I guess...I always thought he played his tunes...
Oh, and about the piano tracks-I find them very amazing now I've found out he can't actually read music or play an instrument, but they are still fairly underdeveloped imho. I think he's best at doing tracks like Cock/Ver 10 or whatever. :D
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astrid-gil-botn
from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:19 [#00561371]
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yeah whoever wrote that is clearly wrong !!! how do you think he did all his early tracks
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-02-19 09:20 [#00561375]
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yeah bitch!
Just kidding! I just wanted to sound hardcore for a second!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-19 09:20 [#00561376]
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he can play-improvise that is i think whats ment there is that he cant read music notes
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nacmat
on 2003-02-19 09:24 [#00561379]
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aphex has composed many of the greates melodies of the nineties...so he is a music composer, and one of the best... how couldnt he read music
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:25 [#00561382]
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I can't read music and still compose melodies. Shite melodies at the moment like but y'know..
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-19 09:27 [#00561387]
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Yeah, reading notes is fairly easy i found out after starting on the piano myself!
It would be strange if he couldnt figure it out...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:29 [#00561390]
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I just bite the keyboard, sounds more organic. Actually I just twat it with a hammer and call it Glitch when my computer starts to fuck up. I heard a glitch remix of an Eiffel65 track last night, my computer generated it when sonique crashed. I almost came it was that good.
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nacmat
on 2003-02-19 09:30 [#00561392]
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I mean...it takes 30 minutes to know which is every note on the pentagram and which is the lengh of each note... no big deal.... the hard thing is to have the ability of playing and composing music...and well...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-19 09:31 [#00561395]
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anyone with fingers can play a keyboard--so he might not be able to get out blank sheet music and write the score...big deal, this isn't the 19th century, it's really not that impressive.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:35 [#00561401]
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Well, if he can't read music, big deal....but he can't play the keyboard! That's what that article says!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:36 [#00561402]
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Its like some/most proffesional guitar players can't read musical notation,yet they can play (what some people consider) exellent solos ect.
Fuck,Mozart was deaf! It helps to read music,but its obviously not compulsery(incorrect spelling?).
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nacmat
on 2003-02-19 09:38 [#00561407]
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Fuck,Mozart was deaf! ****
that was beethoven
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:38 [#00561409]
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Listen to Cordialotron for example. How can he not play the Keyboard? I think that article is misleading.
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:39 [#00561413]
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Mozart cut his ear off innit?
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-19 09:41 [#00561416]
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So, according to that article, if we were to visit mr twin in his studio, there would be NO keyboards? Since, of course, he cannot play them... nahhh
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-19 09:42 [#00561421]
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he can play-but lets say he heard a certain song-do you think he could play that tune on keyboard?
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:43 [#00561426]
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ok..maybe it's wrong...I too find it impossible to believe he can't play at all...maybe it's all samples of tunes...or...er..I dunno!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-19 09:44 [#00561430]
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you mean the ability to play by ear? Well, not that many people have that ability in the first place. Mozart once heard Allegre's Miserere at the Vatican, went home, and wrote out the entire score from memory...now THAT is genius. I can pick up tunes on the piano and play along, which is nice.
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Loogie
from Oxford (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:45 [#00561433]
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i think it's another aphex gimmick, maybe we're supposed to be even more impressed at his genius :\
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-19 09:46 [#00561435]
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VAN GOGH CUT HIS EAR OFF! and he was a painter!
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TonePu5her
from lincoln !UK! (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:47 [#00561437]
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Anyone who can read music is a genius IMO,its all foreign to me.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-19 09:49 [#00561444]
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i dont think playing by ear is that difficult for musicians who can read music notes
at least from my experience and i suspect- that mozart tune was longer than 3 minutes :)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2003-02-19 09:49 [#00561448]
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*laughs* I really have no idea, I'm here for comical value only. }:>
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-19 09:50 [#00561449]
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Don't be daft--that's like saying anyone who can read French is a genius...
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nacmat
on 2003-02-19 09:50 [#00561451]
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you ironic bad boy
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-02-19 09:51 [#00561453]
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The miserere is a long choral piece, very very beautiful. And experience helps a person in playing by ear too--learning compositional techniques etceteras---chord changes and all that bollocks
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-02-19 09:52 [#00561454]
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hehe, not something im fammiliar with
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-02-19 09:55 [#00561459]
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I suppose you just have to have a good ear if you can't play music.
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Clic
on 2003-02-19 09:55 [#00561461]
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It's not that hard to learn the basics. Like all things, you just have to want to.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-19 10:01 [#00561472]
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oh! I hammer mine with a twat.. ehm..
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-19 10:21 [#00561502]
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Its piss easy and logical, you can learn it basicly in a week!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2003-02-19 10:21 [#00561503]
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REading notes that is
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-02-19 12:27 [#00561632]
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Saint John and Saint Paul couldn't read or write music back in their Beatle days (and Paul probably still can't), and they got by pretty well.
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Ranjiv
from Nor Cal (United States) on 2003-02-19 12:57 [#00561673]
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I think he writes his own patches in Max/MSP and Supercollider that send out midi notes to his gear. I've been getting into this for a little while now. You just have to figure out which objects are used to control what. He may of been doing it this way for many years. Besides that, I bet he can at least play even if he can't read music.
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-19 13:03 [#00561682]
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he has to be able to play the keyboard to produce any kind of melody... otherwise all his music would be drums
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-02-19 13:03 [#00561685]
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yes thats it. and about the early pieces, have u heard about sequencers? =)
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-02-19 13:04 [#00561687]
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oh that was for ranjiv. vamason is wrong =)
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vamason
from Zigomatic v17 (United States) on 2003-02-19 13:08 [#00561697]
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meh... all the same... how can someone NOT be able to play the keyboard.... you're just pushing some keys... the trick is being able to make it sound good
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-19 13:10 [#00561702]
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All you need is an ear for what sounds good. This is not shown however by the track 'Father'.
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Ranjiv
from Nor Cal (United States) on 2003-02-19 13:10 [#00561703]
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I bet he uses sequencers, he probably always has. I just think that his later music sounds like like what I said above. If you know those progs well, you could sound just about any way you wanted.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-02-19 13:30 [#00561738]
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i remember someone saying: "he most probably lied in that interview, to get a kick out of it, thats just his humor"
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Binaural Tea
from Christmas City (Christmas Island) on 2003-02-19 13:31 [#00561741]
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=)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-02-19 13:33 [#00561744]
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i think the article is implying that he can't read music, not that he can't play notes on a keyboard.
i have no idea how to play the piano but once, by accident, pounded out a pretty close rendition to Gymnopodie No.1.
not to say that usually would happen, but i don't think you have to be able to read or write music to be able to compose it, and aphex is definitely a great melodic composer.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-22 01:56 [#00565899]
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rdj not being able to read notation is bogus. 4 year olds can learn notation. rdj says he's never read a fictional book but lots of manuals and such. i'm sure he's opened up some basic music theory books.
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-02-22 05:32 [#00565976]
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EVEN i learned reading basic notes before i was 10 and FOR FUCKS SAKE i haven't even really studied them. poor rich must be dum as a boot if he can't read notation (j/k)
but reading software, that is cool. i have a friend who made a track without hearing it at all, just visually. he imagined what thisandthat would sound like and did it.. it is not a bad track at all.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2003-02-22 07:04 [#00566022]
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this track 'father' is actually one of my favorites and i only wish i could play something like that on my piano. Just because it sounds random doesnt mean it cant sound nice >:(
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moon unit
from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-02-22 09:57 [#00566185]
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I think Richard sees himself as an experimental artist - experimental artists probably feel compromised by using music standards which are hundreds of years old.
He probably dismisses music notation publicly, because it fits in with his general attitude of irreverance, and, because he genuinely believes its obsolete.
I would think most of the electronic melodies composed today are the result of software-based sound collage as opposed to recorded keyboard riffs.
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DJ Xammax
from not America on 2003-02-22 10:02 [#00566198]
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You like it?? Difference strokes for different folks but imo, it sounds God awful!
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-02-22 10:06 [#00566207]
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my 2 cents: i DO know this... he obviously cant play very well, since he used a yamaha digital piano to write the stuff on drukqs. it operates kinda like a player piano, and he prepared the strings inside... i dont know if that means he cant play AT ALL or not... it obviously means he can't play all that well.
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