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which doesnt make the material any less great to me... |
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i learned the basics of goon goompas on the piano last night... fannnnntastic |
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OWN3D!!! i wrote that across my knuckles cause it's hilarious |
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if he can't play the keyboard very well, what's SAW 85-92? |
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Well, well, new to this... For what I know about piano playin, if you play Avril 14 you will find that it's harmmony is strange... In the other hand, I think richard must hear lots of jazz... I think anybody who likes to compose music should.... I think he doesn't need to know how to read notes or anything... whenever you are compossing, you have a mellody on your mind, then you try to play it however you can, the diference between knowing the scales and harmmonies is the time it will take you... :) |
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I think it's pretty sad he can't play those piano tracks in Druqks....I can, and I simply play them from ear. I'm not saying I'm better than Mr.Twin, but c'mon...he's been at it for ages, and he still can't play the keyboard?! |
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I think he can't pilot a plain either... but that doesn't matter... he can do other things like no other human can... I think that if he knew how to play the piano, knew all the clasical compositions an all that he may not do the music he does... |
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It could HELP his music too |
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"I think that if he knew how to play the piano, knew all the clasical compositions an all that he may not do the music he does... " EXACTLY!!!!! That's what I was waiting to hear. This explains it all. What exactly does "knowing how to play the piano" mean? If you slap your finger on one key and make a noise, in all actuality, you ARE playing a piano. If you devote a portion of your life playing others scales and pieces of music, your own style will be clouded, if not destroyed. I credit Richard greatly for avoiding such a curse of being an "accomplished pianist". Art is all about newly formed ideas and evolution in expression. Now tell me how repeating history in the form of boring textbook scales is going to push the envelope? You can't. Just let it blow you away. |
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"If you devote a portion of your life playing others scales and pieces of music, your own style will be clouded, if not destroyed." - err... yeah, just like like all those amazing composers and musicians who play the piano..... what?!?! |
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LETS BREAK EVERYPIANO GUYS |
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"err... yeah, just like like all those amazing composers and musicians who play the piano..... " Uh....what? I wasn't denouncing pianists...only glorifying one who chooses another direction. think. then type. |
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yeah maybe but perhaps the word "destroyed" used to describe someones musical style because they've learnt to play piano... err... well.. "think. then type." |
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Fluency does not equal the ability to say something new. Its not that he isn't capable of achieving fluency on the keyboard, its more that, in trying to achieve something genuinely new, old prerequisites have to be abandoned. Learning Russian will not change you into Dostoyevsky.Learning notation will not change you into Bach. |
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Yes, but it helps. I value having been classically trained....even though I've abandoned those rules, they have been helpful not in my comospition of melodies, but mainly in my abalities to PERFORM my melodies/improvisations. |
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What does knowin how to play mean, I think that his piano tracks are simply very emotional to you, to anybody who appeals to it. Of course that anyone with a little bit of touch can create simple Piano melodies. I can |
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Blrr...smartass....You haven't honestly read a single thing I have said. |
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yeah, that's true... but really, listen to the melodies... they aren't really that tough to play... I bet I could sit down and play them easy enough, or even program them into QBasic :)... I don't know if this would've been possible with any equipment he would've had back then when he wrote those songs, but if he could've recorded each melody and percussion part separately, and then put them together it really wouldn't have been hard... which he must've done... because if he recorded Tha live, with that constantly moving bass part, he is a killer keyboard player... because that song would be real hard to play live I think, on piano or something... |
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Does he ever play synths live in concerts? I've never been to any idm concerts. |
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reading music ain't that hard... I think it's better to be able to play by ear, cause music is meant to be heard not read anyways... so if you can hear it well, you're better off... |
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well... i have actually. |
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CLASSICALLY TRAINED TO KICK ASS!!! |
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I took piano lessons for probably 7 or 8 years, and played Trombone in school band and stuff for 5 or 6... so I know my way around sheet music!! :) |
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don't you agree, it helps the compositional process, Funkmaster? |
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well not really knowing how to write music... but definitely having a good understanding of chords and all that does... I don't have that, a good knowledge of chords and so I'm not that great with melody making really... but I can read music like crazy... so really, reading music doesn't make that much difference... |
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i mentioned SAW 85-92 only as proof he knows how to play a damn keyboard, not that he was a brilliant pianist or anything.. and yes he used to play synths live. |
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i don't think you heard me "CLASSICALLY TRAINED TO KICK ASS!!! GODDAMN!!!!!!!!!!! |
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"If you devote a portion of your life playing others scales and pieces of music, your own style will be clouded, if not destroyed. " Exactly. Electronica music doesn't use scales ect. its just played straight ,no bullshit in there.The Artists play what they think sounds good. Listen to Pekerhed people,he speaks wisdom. |
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Yeah Peker, you the man. I'm going to shout some of those points you made into my music teachers face. |
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YOU THE MAN |
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Bah. |
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I'm currently studying music and I agree reading music is pretty simple...But sight reading is very difficult I think. However to say that learning how to play clouds your ability to be original I disagree. I think what it comes down to is how creative you are. |
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music theory i mean really now |
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Are you still starting that posse Roygbivcore? |
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who needs a piano? I have my synths/mods (and they're a LOT more difficult to 'play') its all instruments at the end of the day... and why would someone need to read scored music?.... only if you either recorded your work in score or read others work in score - which virtually no idm artists do......... (i'd hazard a guess at none actually) |
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Who needs pianos? I take offense to that! jk The piano is a beautiful instrument explain how synths/mods are more difficult to play! |
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sight reading is fucking impossible. i had to give up exams cause i'd learn the pieces off by heart but fuck up the sight reading badly. printed music looks so beautiful though, its like an ancient scripture. or something. |
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haha I do that too earthleakage! What instrument or instruments do you play? |
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how do you think he did all his early tracks can you say seq uen cer i personally have worked for a long time trying to completely remove any knolege i ever had of chords,scales ect nobody needs to be able to read/know music theory its for this reason that i think a guitar is nothing more than a complex kareoke(spelling) machine. insnt that the point of electronic music. that it alows ideas to go straight from the the mind to sound regardless off how fast you can move your fingers or how long youve read other peoples books about other peoples chords and scales? u need to look past all that |
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but explain to me how knowing music theory hinders one's creativity...I think it only helps with it Besides isn't it cool to understand why certain sounds and notes go together? isn't it better to understand something then mess with it, instead of fumbling in the dark? I don't know a lot about music theory but I can honestly say that what I do know has has helped me with my music writing ability |
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cool? through a complete lack of music theory you gain your own understanding of chords and in doing this are making your own music theory and to me the reason certain notes go together is because thats were i put them i dont want to know how mozart wrote some tune coz its not about mozart or aphex twin or squarepusher its about making your own tunes and sure sometimes you might do something that someone tells you sounds like something someone else has done before but it dont matter becuase you know that you wernt thinking about that at-all when making the tune. it hinders becuase when all you know is scales and chords everthing you do will remain inside of those(other peoples) scales chords. |
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i agree with what you're saying but i would like to note that an insight into music theory helps you better appreciate classical music, which is a whole amazing world in itself... |
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it hinders becuase when all you know is scales and chords everthing you do will remain inside of those(other peoples) scales chords? So you are telling me that since I know the scales and chords I am now incapible of going outside those realms? That is pretty damn ridiculous to me. My theory is that you learn the rules and then break them! By the way music theory doesn't involve listening to mozart and then copying him...or any of that nonsense... |
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I agree with you titsworth, but I think it helps you to appreciate all types of music |
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i play piano & guitar. i can play bass but i can never be bothered to i just find it a bit boring too. and drums, a little. i've done some theory, i loved it. but that was over 16 years ago, i'd love to go back to it sometime. when i get thet time that is. |
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i wanna hear some of your music, past or present. for serious. |
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who? |
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but the fact that you even have rules to break is ridiculous but surely you have to use these scales to break these 'rules' so you are still working inside the orinional rules how anyone can sit and put there fingers where the writing or picture tell them to is beyond me |
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you can learn music theory and not have to learn how to sight read....... |
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you'll be lucky. if i manage to cut down on my drinking and actually finish something i've started, it would be a miracle. |
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