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offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-01 16:35 [#00536965]
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free mp3's of this upcoming saul williams ninja tune EP
with remixes by the likes of coldcut and dj spooky.
if you like it buy it when it's out.

not in our name music for more info.


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-01 16:36 [#00536966]
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is this the same guy-the one from djkrust video-that
preaching guy


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-02-01 16:38 [#00536968]
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i like saul williams. wha´t was the name of that movie?
well I liked it.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-01 16:40 [#00536969]
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slam is one of my favorite movies

tolstoyed: preaching? he was talking about techno music, not
religion.. sheesh. anyway, same guy.


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-02-01 16:40 [#00536970]
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Slam.. I love saul williams.. his album shouldn't have been
a Rick Ruben project.. it was just wrong for him


 

offline raimons from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-02-01 16:43 [#00536973]
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yeah slam....great film. greaaat!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2003-02-01 16:43 [#00536974]
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ehm, yeah preaching wasnt the right word
i kind of thought it has different meanings hehe


 

offline roygbivcore from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2003-02-01 16:49 [#00536978]
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anything with your approval is worth a download to me


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2003-02-01 17:02 [#00536983]
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preaching is a figure of speech, and you know it.

Dont confuse the non-native english speakers.


 

offline zetre from United States Minor Outlying Islands on 2003-02-01 17:19 [#00536988]
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That scene where he?s rapping his way out of the beef in
prison is so fucking embarrassing! Altogether a pretty
crappy film.
That amerasian gal is pretty hot tho.


 

offline fleetmouse from Horny for Truth on 2003-02-01 17:34 [#00536993]
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I agree with tolstoyed, he's a preacher at heart. He doesn't
speak, he declaims.

Funny, you posted some of his words a while back and it
reminded me of a track on Blazing Arrow - now I notice duh,
that was him on that track. I should read liner notes. :-)


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-01 17:40 [#00536995]
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lets see saul williams try and run america and see how
furhter down the tube it goes, i hate these phonies its so
easy to say something yet i mean give me a brake you think
its so easy to deal with world affairs? this board is so
anti american yet fail to see all the negativity of the rest
of the world like america is so bad! give me a brake! if it
wasnt for the US most of the world would be communist or
under some other hitleresque rule but ya know we've done
some bad stuff as well so lets condemn the US completely
..

but u wil all say im just trapped in the media propaganda
that the US wants me to believe .. bleh the us needs to go
back to a pre ww1-2 policy of isolationism so we can be
blamed for what we now dont do


 

offline theo himself from +- on 2003-02-01 17:51 [#00537002]
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that scene in the prison, (that's not rapping btw) I
thought, was fucking awesome

get the song "Twice The First Time" by him.. I think that's
the name.. it's the one from the Xen Cuts triple album


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:17 [#00538158]
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just because america is not the worst nation in the world
doesn't mean it should be defended. i can hardly find a
piece of clothing or dishware that isn't imported from
sweatshop labor. we're dropping bombs on afganistan, not on
known terrorist hideouts but poor ass villages because have
no idea where the terrorists are. america may not be the
worst, but it's fucking sick and you make me sick for
thinking this nation is acceptable. humanity is diseased
and america is right there perpetuating the sickness.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:19 [#00538163]
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twice the first time is great


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:25 [#00538171]
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im glad i make you sick, go move to Iraq since its such a
great country you fuck


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:28 [#00538176]
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and fuck you if you think saul shouldn't be able to speak up
about not supporting the current direction our government is
going. maybe we should just get rid of free speech
altogether. bush would love that and you'd support him all
the way.


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:34 [#00538182]
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gee god forbid anyone should disagree with something on this
board or have an opposing political view, i dont agree with
you but whatever im not going to hate you for thinking that,
but hey im the bad guy for having my views.. everyone
forgets the freedoms and liberties of America when bashing
them, all i say is keep that in consideration at times
before denouncing the country.. i never said he shouldnt
speak up, just he should consider some shit first

instead i get shot down by your whining liberal cries.. as
if i even cared what you or this board thought of me or my
views, fuck off


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:37 [#00538188]
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since no one checked the not in our name site i guess no one
realizes the mootness of b0nk's argument that saul is just
complaining through his music and doing nothing else. not in
our name = an anti-war organization. not in our name ep = a
benefit for the organization.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:37 [#00538190]
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haha, antisweatshop and poor village bombing is so liberal


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:38 [#00538193]
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no, i only checked the music... funny though


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:39 [#00538195]
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no i didnt say that jupitah, instead of twisting my words
around , learn something about me im sure i agree wiht a lot
of what you do as well


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:40 [#00538196]
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what was liberal then? cause the jist of my post was that i
can't stand that that shit is so common and acceptable. and
you said i was liberal for it.


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:40 [#00538197]
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im not bashing saul williams or what he said. all im saying
is that when people take such harsh stances and say a lot of
negative stuff about the govt they need to as well see the
good.

i did read the site and listen to the track. the "not in our
name" lists of stuff done he disagreed with.. what about the
"in our name stuff" of spreading freedom and liberty ?


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:41 [#00538198]
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maybe i did go off a bit, but fuck man, saul's not in
support of the war, so what?


 

offline b0nk from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:42 [#00538200]
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well i guess i meant the liberalness of this board then.. i
by no means advocate sweatshops or the killing of innocent
civilians


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:46 [#00538203]
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listen to saul williams' album or read his poetry to see
what he's in favor of; the free songs put up on the web are
meant to protest war, hence there isn't any "yes in our
name" material in the lyrics.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:47 [#00538206]
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yeah, the board is quite liberal, the ones who speak.

i don't feel that those who speak out about negative's of
the govt really need to balance it with, "but they done some
good too." it's just not relevant.


 

offline jupitah from Minneapolis (United States) on 2003-02-02 17:48 [#00538207]
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...beacuse the good don't cancel out the bad.


 

offline jonesy from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2003-02-03 01:15 [#00538407]
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The US spreads freedom and liberty? For whom? The prisoners
of Camp X-Ray? The Arabs locked up without trial? The dead
villagers of Afghanistan? Those under the rule of a warlord
in Afghanistan? The 500,000 dead children killed by
sanctions in Iraq?

Their freedom and liberty or the freedom and liberty of the
oil giants who financed Bush's election campaign (which as a
fix was hardly an example of freedom and democracy).

As for Saul Williams, I was disappointed with the album.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-04 10:57 [#00540698]
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why? cos it wasn't _____ enough?
a) poetic
b) hip-hop
c) rock
d) drum 'n' bass

i mean really, what were people expecting when they bought
this album? i think it's awesome. lyrically saul is on
point, vocally he slaughters it, musically it's a really
cool blend of different styles and i give him propz for
having the courage to make his music as diverse and
sophisticated as his words (he could've easily rapped over
canned beats, but that would've sucked). i also think the
production by rick rubin and saul is great.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-02-04 12:25 [#00540809]
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I cant put my finger on it, but I'm with jonsey. I was
expecting something more from the album. It has some REAl
good tunes, but to me, a few fell short of what I was
familliar with.

I think everything pre-amethyst was 100% on point.


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-02-04 12:33 [#00540812]
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holy shit, is that the goatsucker? i just figured it out!


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-02-04 12:42 [#00540824]
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These tracks are way good.


 

offline titsworth from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-02-04 18:04 [#00541170]
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maybe you just didn't like the rock direction then?

the avatar is from some (real) picture of a "cave being"


 

offline LeCoeur from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-02-05 00:14 [#00541387]
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huh ?!?!

i don't have anything pre -Amethyst, however i think it's
completely brilliant !!! it's powerful poetry IMO.

i love how music/art can produce such differing views.
beauty (sound and otherwise) is definately in ze EYE of ze
beholder =0)


 

offline pomme de terre from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-02-05 08:13 [#00541884]
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pre amethyst meaning his comp appearances and stuff.

like the 2 tracks on black whole styles; '1972' and 'twice
the first time', 'ocean within' with krs and 'OM' which was
completely badass..

oh yeah and the track with krush which i was never too big
on.. nice speech, weak beat..



 


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