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i think i'm going to buy a laptop.what do you suggest?mac or pc? my budget is 1600 euro i would use it mainly for music |
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im going to have to say mac. if you can afford it, I dont know the currency rates. |
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macs are pretty sweet but pcs are more widely used so you get software more easily |
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i definitely prefer macs but it's a matter of taste... well, not only taste though... |
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if you want to use soulseek, fruityloops etc. i don't think mac is a good choice. |
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though i'm not sure whether fruityloops works on mac or not.. |
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mhh ok so the pc has a lot more software but the mac is better. it's a difficult choice. |
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no it doesnt, but there is a mac equivelent, sorta. ISYNTH. www.cycling74.com btw, i dont use a mac, I just have mac envy. |
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the fact is that every artist i saw use mac..... |
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I use the Macintosh, and it's really cool! It cost it's money |
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Aphex and Snares use PCs from what I've seen. My point: for music PC or Mac will do. The software won't do all the work anyway. :) So what else do you want to do with this new computer? I lean towards PCs because they have a huge market share (> than 90%) on the desktop - this translates into: a. more software (esp. games) b. more choice of hardware So there's my 2 cents. |
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Soft for macs is more safe! Were viruses breaking your computer? Viruses for macintohs are more difficult to write |
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apparently he did the whole Richard D. James album on a mac |
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Really? RicardDJ Album is most ridiculous album |
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I saw pictures of him working on a Sony Vaio. I have an interview with Squarepusher where he talks about playing around with Pure Data (on PC only as far as I know). Furthermore, that whole Virus stuff is nonsense. I have no virus software and have never had a virus. That's because I know not to click on .exe or .vbs files sent via email. |
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Read my info |
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well i'd use it for music,internet,maybe something for my university......for the games i got playstation 2 whic is the best. i'm a little bit oriented in mac but i don't know......oooo futurama on tv! |
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You need a BBC Micro, It's the only way to go. Mine has 32k of ram but my friend has 64k and more roms *fume* At least I have a 5 inch floppy drive. |
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or an Atari!!!! don't forget the Atari!!! |
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hey quatch tell me 5 reasons why i should buy a mac. |
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I honestly don't care - PC/Mac? They're both good - but this is funny. |
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Mac laptops are very expensive, you get a lot more for your money with a PC laptop. |
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macs are much more expensive to buy, to upgrade and to buy software for (and much harder to find pirated software too), and the choice of software you CAN use is extremely limited compared to PC ...and they aren't much better anyway these days in terms of performance.... especially when you consider how much you could spend on all kinds of extra features with the money u save going with a pc but then again...... the apple powerbooks are very very nice laptops, and are very powerful for music production (radiohead, afx, and many others use them to produce music on the road.. radiohead made a few tracks on amnesiac using only their powerbooks) but powerbooks are probably over your price range... ...the g3 iBooks aren't as good, in their price range a PC would get you more power, more feeatures and more compatability for the price imo anyway |
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pc pluspoints: more software, more hardware, more users, (more support?) better format (more than 8+3 signs per name) like "aphex twin - to cure a weakling child - contour regard (divx).avi" would be "aphextwi.mov" and who wants to use a compi with ONE MOUSE BUTTON ONLY anyway??!!?!? and have u seen the "file-manager", looks so ugly... the only way a mac would come to my home was, if there was AVID cut system gratis to it... the only plus point to mac is, that they dont throw too much hardware out on the market which nobody can afford. but since there ARE pc´s, this ideology wont work anyway... |
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for music these points listed may not be the most important, but still you can get a faster machine for your money on pc sector... |
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There are fewer and fewer reasons to buy a Macintosh these days, unless you want to look like you have money to burn. |
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I have an adorable mac powerbook, I love how it runs, and and its style, but the whole mac experience is just too expensive. Parts are expensive, any peripherals are usually twice the cost of their pc counterparts, worse because everything has to be external already since it's a laptop, software downloads are hard to find, software in the store is a pain to hunt down, and the university tech support guys never know what's wrong when it has a problem ("So, what's the file extension on that? " "It's a mac, there is no file extension on that." "Oh... um.....".) So yeah, macs are great, but after 10 years of macs, my patience is gone, and I can't take it anymore. Buy a mac if you have a lot of patience. |
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ijonspeches > "better format (more than 8+3 signs per name) like "aphex twin - to cure a weakling child - contour regard (divx).avi" would be "aphextwi.mov" " lol where did you see this?! ^^ there is no need of an extension and on os9 you could put 32 characters only, but on osX you can! i have a file named Nurse With Wound - Two Shaves And A Shine (concerto for bouzouki and 3 piece rock group in 93 six second segments) .mp3 . |
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it's dead tough getting hardcore with stuff on pcs i find (unless you run linux or summat, which macs can do as well)... all the decent software is mac only - metasynth, supercollider, max/msp, soundhack, peak, etc. etc. oh and i think ijonspeeches has swollowed a bit to much microsoft bullshit, the poor boy is ill. |
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i use an imac and it's great. yes, they are expensive, but it's a very comfortable computer. i've never had any serious problems (only one minor infact) and since then it has been running beautifully. but pc's are more affordable, i have no money but a great computer! yay! |
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oh and that mac gamer commercial was great...so true |
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i've almost made up my decision.maybe a pc would be better. but my only doubt is that there IS a reason why all the best use mac. well thank you very much |
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keep in mind that (and i think most ppl will agree with me here) Apple still holds its own better when it comes to laptops then desktops.. |
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Apple laptops are wonderfull indeed. My dad has a new titanium G4 he got for work, man, what an awesome computer. And for all you unix/linux fans.. OS X is really just like a unix machine really, I love the terminal! I would have to agree with steve. There are a lot of quality programs available on mac that you wouldnt find on a pc. But these are usually more advanced programs, and you need a basic knowledge of c or c++ or software engineering in general (or if you plan to work with these kinda apps: c sound, supercollider, Max/MSP, sound hack...). Higher end and more advanced applications are apples specialty I think, and ease of use. I love fact that when I got my G4, I could hook up my hardware via my 8X8 midisport and be ready to sequence in Cubase, within a hour or so. And now with OS X its even easier because any midi device is automatically recognized. When everything gets ported to OS X it will be the strongest multimeadia workstation ever I think. On the other hand, you have apps that work only on the pc, but usually there is a mac equivilant somewhere. I have done audio on a pc (its been a while though, maybe at least a year ago), and let me tell you, setting it all up can be a pain hardware wise (things might be better now, I dont really know as I havent been on a pc for a while). If your working with audio, youll need a powerfull machine if you want to get things done quickly. So a higher end machine would benefit you best. If your just starting up I say maybe go for an iBook and get yourself some audio apps. But if you have some experience then maybe go for something a little more powerfull. Pc's can do a very good job at audio, essentially both machines wiether apple or pc, can do the same job. For me though, its all about custimization, ease of use, scripting, and multimeadia, and I find apple is doing a great job at this. I am soo happy they kept apple script with the new OS! |
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With OS X, Apple machines can do a fantastic job with networking and dealing with the internet apps too because of its unix BSD core, so I really believe that both machines, Apple products, or pc products can do the same thing. I think OS X is going to continue to evolve and become an incredible os and even better then it is now, so I am sticking with Apple at the moment sorry for the typo's w00t! |
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Off topic, but did you know that there is quite a lot of BSD networking code in modern versions of Windows as well? Personally, I would like to see OS X ported to Intel hardware, and the old proprietary Apple hardware dropped in favor of common PC components (but maybe with a custom paint job or translucent bits to make it look cool.) |
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I have both Mac and PC and in my oppinion the Mac is better when it comest to any artistic activity. But it's wery expensive (add $1300 to get the icelandic price (!) ). The PC is better for games, programing and all sorts of online stuff. |
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"(add $1300 to get the icelandic price (!) )" -add it to apple.com's price. |
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and what do you think should be the configuration? 1600? 1800?1400? 128 mb of ram?256? |
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PC: 1600-1800MHz with at least 256 RAM Mac: 800-1000MHz with at least 2356 RAM (128 is way to little) |
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Oops!! typo - i meant 256 ram for mac :P |
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ok pentium or amd? |
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Yea, I know Inverted Whale I also think its very funny that Micro$oft went with a more unix based os almost a few months later after the beta version of os x was introduced. I dont think Apple will ever do that as far as porting os x to different machinery, especially since OS X is programmed especially for apple hardware, the g3, and g4 processor chips, because that is their claim to fame, and that way they have complete controll as to what gets put out on the market. I just want them to tone down the price tag and make their prices more compeditive. Macs have got games and compilers for programming (maybe not as many in OS 9, but with more programmers porting their products to the new os, there are more and more every day) and can handle online stuff well too, especially with the new os. I think what it comes down to is what you are more comfortable/familiar with. As much as people want to say they are soo different, they can really do quite a lot of the same things IMO |
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heheheheh i thought you really wrote 2356 eheehehehhehe |
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Nah, I think that if you buy that sort of ram you won't be able to buy the computer for the rest of those 1600 euros! :P |
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ehehehehe i gotta go to sleep.i gotta study tomorrow for the exam of social systems compared.byeeeeeeeee BONAAAAAAA |
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It should be: Dual 1.25GHz PowerPC G4 1800 MHz PC (sorry I dont know that much about pc specs but I would imagine they could be dual processors) And the intel processor works much different from the g3 and g4 processor, . If your going to go for a pc machine, you might wanna get someone to build custom one for you. There are people who specialize in that and can build a fast machine for a reasonable price. Some really L337 people can build some beastly pc machines! As long as they have a big enough tower shell and a large enough fan... they can modify it to overclock. w00t! |
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mmmm.... Dual 1.25 GHz... that's about $6.500 just for the computer without a screen, keyboard and mouse. They charge $1.000 for the smallest screen. |
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I've always found that people who have PCs built for them find things go wrong with them more often. That maybe nonsense, but it is my perception from the people I know. Also, people who constantly fiddle with their machines always eem to have more things go wrong too. My Dell PC is solid as a rock, I've had it 2.5 years, powered up continuously and I only had my first problem with it last week, when I had to replace the PSU fan. That's the first time I've even opened the case, they're very well built inside. |
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Which Microsoft OS are you talking about? XP? It's not really unix-based at all. They might have tried to mimic the look and feel, but it's very different under the hood. The BSD core of Mac OS X, Darwin, is not tied to any particular processor or platform - just the applications are optimized for PowerPC. But I agree with you when you say porting the Mac OS to PCs will not happen - except maybe as a last resort when Apple finds no one willing to buy their hardware any more. |
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