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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-21 15:32 [#00523007]
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True true danbrusca, not as relayable as a manufactured pc. Just like tricked out cars.... same kinda thing. If modified the wrong way or built wrong it can seriously hurt the performance. Depends on the person building it though Id imagine
Prices are high, but that IS Apples fastest machine, I wish it they would tone down the prices of their products a bit. But Id also image that there are people in the multimeadia and entertainment industry that are willing to blow that much on a regular basis
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-21 15:41 [#00523020]
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The core BSD part of OSX isnt tied to any hardware of course, but all of the applications are linked and optimized to perform with the g3 and g4 processor, so even if you did port it to a pc, which I really doubt you could right now, you wouldnt get anything to run, Id imagine there is some L337 person trying to figuere it out though so I might be wrong. I think apple has such a hold on the multimeadia industry that it will never sell out like that. They seem to have a hold on everything but the 3D animation industry, but Maya is ported to OS X now, so I am sure the will have more and more industry people switch over.
Are there not anymore mac users here? I guess not
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Alliat
from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2003-01-21 15:42 [#00523024]
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"If computers were cars, the PC would be the thing most people owned. The Mac would be faster, more comfortable, never breaks down, lasts longer, no one breaks into them (viruses) and everybody could drive them... but they could only drive on 20% of the roads."
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Alliat
from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2003-01-21 15:44 [#00523027]
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I know a few people in the 3D industry. They all use PC for modeling and Mac for rendering - it's way faster than the pc.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-21 16:19 [#00523077]
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That was a good descriptive quote, pretty ture to fact too, maybe os x will make more roads though, probubly never as many as pc
Yea inverted whale I was talking about the GUI of XP, its much more unix/linux like, I think its a much better improvement to the old 98 os
Ack... sorry for making this thread morph all over the place slint
If you really want to be on top of it all regaurding audio, IMO you might wanna get a pc and a mac, like a low end mac and a higher end pc, or visa versa, that way you wouldnt miss out on anything. I think my next big buy will be a pc of somekind, because virtual pc can take you only so far without being bogged down and there are some really neat programs that will probubly never be ported to mac
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magiker
from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-01-21 16:22 [#00523080]
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PC is the future. I own an Asus L8400C slaptop, on which I run Gentoo Linux and I'm happy.
<-- Happy
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-01-21 16:29 [#00523085]
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PC cuz its faster & easier to get good Audiowarez !
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2003-01-21 16:36 [#00523091]
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oh and either way you go, you can also get an ipod (i recently bought the 5gb model for my mac) its soooo great...mine's almost full already, plus itunes makes music organizing real easy (if you get a mac) but thats extra.
even still....1000 songs...and you can use it as an external hardrive!
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-21 16:36 [#00523092]
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PC- Unstable (for music), Free software (warez), Cheap(er). More audio software available. Fruityloops!
MAC - Lower Latency, More stable (as a result, much better for live performance).
Less upgradeable.
Ideally get both (I will hopefully get a laptop mac once I finish university).
I've chatted to Michael Law (electronic musician and sound engineer to Portishead, Roxxane, etc.) about this and he has 6 macs, 1 pc. PC is just in case someone wants to use something only available on PCs. It is never used live though, too unstable. A tiny amount of pro musicians in the UK use pcs compared to macs, but in the US more artists use PCs (still in a minority).
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dmise
from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-01-21 20:18 [#00523278]
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I don't know where people are getting the ideas that Mac's are faster maybe if you were looking at them 2 or 3 years ago. Motorola hasn't released a new chip for Apple to use for a long time that's why they keep doubling up on the desktop systems. Motorola have cut R&D staff and they don't know when a new PowerPC chip will be released.
If you read Slashdot often then you will see that PC's are a lot faster than Mac's on almost all tasks except for 1 or 2 Photoshop filters that Apple finds to make their processor look faster.
There was talk a while ago that Apple had been secretly developing OSX so it ran on x86 in case Motorola fell too far behind or stopped making chips.
Stability isn’t a problem with PC’s if you are running Linux, WinXP or Win2000.
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Mickey Mouse
from The Moon on 2003-01-21 21:05 [#00523325]
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OS WAR!!!!!
*TAKES OUT THE BAZOOKA AND STARTS BLASTING RANDOM PEOPLE*
DIE!
BWHAHAHAHA!
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skyfarmer
from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-21 22:30 [#00523399]
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XP doesn't have a Unix feel at all, believe me. And Microsoft OSes are inbreeding painfully :(((
The 'PROFESSIONAL' (!) Windows XP version features some stuff like 'click your left mouse button while your cursor is over the 'change user priveleges' button. Click a word you don't understand to get an animated dictionary tour'. It's supposed to be an OS for expierenced, not to say advanced users, not fucking housewifes!
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Quatch
from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-01-22 01:23 [#00523500]
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PowerMacG4-933MHz-60GB(HD)-GeForce4MX-2FireWire-2USB-526(15 Have you ever seen 36max)RAM by $1000?
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dingle berry
from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2003-01-22 03:44 [#00523548]
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DIGI DESIGNS PRO TOOLS WORKS SO WELL ON THE MAC G4!
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slint
on 2003-01-22 05:47 [#00523669]
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well guys i think i decided. a pc.a hi end pc.when i'll be rich and famous i'll buy a mac.
you gotta start somewhere.
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xlr
from Boston (United States) on 2003-01-22 10:35 [#00523944]
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Although it looks as if i'ma bit too late, I'm going to of course recommend a mac. Content creation is the strongpoint of the mac platfrom, especially audio production. You will find that the system just works. Much less troubleshooting is involved with macs, particularly os x. And the thing never crashes.
And you can use more than one mouse button if you so desire, as I do. Just get a third-party mouse.
In regards to speed: It's impossible to compare macs and pc's using MHz. The chip architecture of the mac's power pc processors is of a different order than "x86", which is what intel uses. Even though the megahertz value is lower on a mac, it is faster because the data is processed through a shorter path in the system bus. There's a thing on the apple website that explains it better.
But yes, they are a tad pricey. I'll concede that point.
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