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offline Mickey Mouse from The Moon on 2003-01-21 15:32 [#00523007]
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True true danbrusca, not as relayable as a manufactured pc.
Just like tricked out cars.... same kinda thing. If modified
the wrong way or built wrong it can seriously hurt the
performance. Depends on the person building it though Id
imagine

Prices are high, but that IS Apples fastest machine, I wish
it they would tone down the prices of their products a bit.
But Id also image that there are people in the multimeadia
and entertainment industry that are willing to blow that
much on a regular basis


 

offline Mickey Mouse from The Moon on 2003-01-21 15:41 [#00523020]
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The core BSD part of OSX isnt tied to any hardware of
course, but all of the applications are linked and optimized
to perform with the g3 and g4 processor, so even if you did
port it to a pc, which I really doubt you could right now,
you wouldnt get anything to run, Id imagine there is some
L337 person trying to figuere it out though so I might be
wrong. I think apple has such a hold on the multimeadia
industry that it will never sell out like that. They seem to
have a hold on everything but the 3D animation industry, but
Maya is ported to OS X now, so I am sure the will have more
and more industry people switch over.

Are there not anymore mac users here? I guess not


 

offline Alliat from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2003-01-21 15:42 [#00523024]
Points: 403 Status: Regular



"If computers were cars, the PC would be the thing most
people owned. The Mac would be faster, more comfortable,
never breaks down, lasts longer, no one breaks into them
(viruses) and everybody could drive them... but they could
only drive on 20% of the roads."


 

offline Alliat from Kópavogur (Iceland) on 2003-01-21 15:44 [#00523027]
Points: 403 Status: Regular | Followup to Mickey Mouse: #00523020



I know a few people in the 3D industry. They all use PC for
modeling and Mac for rendering - it's way faster than the
pc.


 

offline Mickey Mouse from The Moon on 2003-01-21 16:19 [#00523077]
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That was a good descriptive quote, pretty ture to fact too,
maybe os x will make more roads though, probubly never as
many as pc

Yea inverted whale I was talking about the GUI of XP, its
much more unix/linux like, I think its a much better
improvement to the old 98 os

Ack... sorry for making this thread morph all over the place
slint

If you really want to be on top of it all regaurding audio,
IMO you might wanna get a pc and a mac, like a low end mac
and a higher end pc, or visa versa, that way you wouldnt
miss out on anything. I think my next big buy will be a pc
of somekind, because virtual pc can take you only so far
without being bogged down and there are some really neat
programs that will probubly never be ported to mac


 

offline magiker from Östersund (Sweden) on 2003-01-21 16:22 [#00523080]
Points: 865 Status: Lurker



PC is the future.
I own an Asus L8400C slaptop, on which I run Gentoo Linux
and I'm happy.
<-- Happy


 

offline Monoid from one source all things depend on 2003-01-21 16:29 [#00523085]
Points: 11010 Status: Lurker



PC cuz its faster & easier to get good Audiowarez !


 

offline forck_02lynix from brooklyn on 2003-01-21 16:36 [#00523091]
Points: 4000 Status: Regular



oh and either way you go, you can also get an ipod (i
recently bought the 5gb model for my mac) its soooo
great...mine's almost full already, plus itunes makes music
organizing real easy (if you get a mac) but thats extra.

even still....1000 songs...and you can use it as an external
hardrive!


 

offline Ceri JC from Jefferson City (United States) on 2003-01-21 16:36 [#00523092]
Points: 23533 Status: Moderator | Show recordbag



PC- Unstable (for music), Free software (warez), Cheap(er).
More audio software available. Fruityloops!

MAC - Lower Latency, More stable (as a result, much better
for live performance).
Less upgradeable.

Ideally get both (I will hopefully get a laptop mac once I
finish university).

I've chatted to Michael Law (electronic musician and sound
engineer to Portishead, Roxxane, etc.) about this and he has
6 macs, 1 pc. PC is just in case someone wants to use
something only available on PCs. It is never used live
though, too unstable. A tiny amount of pro musicians in the
UK use pcs compared to macs, but in the US more artists use
PCs (still in a minority).


 

offline dmise from Melbourne (Australia) on 2003-01-21 20:18 [#00523278]
Points: 635 Status: Lurker



I don't know where people are getting the ideas that Mac's
are faster maybe if you were looking at them 2 or 3 years
ago. Motorola hasn't released a new chip for Apple to use
for a long time that's why they keep doubling up on the
desktop systems. Motorola have cut R&D staff and they don't
know when a new PowerPC chip will be released.
If you read Slashdot often then you will see that PC's are a
lot faster than Mac's on almost all tasks except for 1 or 2
Photoshop filters that Apple finds to make their processor
look faster.

There was talk a while ago that Apple had been secretly
developing OSX so it ran on x86 in case Motorola fell too
far behind or stopped making chips.

Stability isn’t a problem with PC’s if you are running
Linux, WinXP or Win2000.


 

offline Mickey Mouse from The Moon on 2003-01-21 21:05 [#00523325]
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OS WAR!!!!!

*TAKES OUT THE BAZOOKA AND STARTS BLASTING RANDOM PEOPLE*

DIE!

BWHAHAHAHA!


 

offline skyfarmer from a bigger, more complex and tun (Russia) on 2003-01-21 22:30 [#00523399]
Points: 1112 Status: Addict



XP doesn't have a Unix feel at all, believe me. And
Microsoft OSes are inbreeding painfully :(((
The 'PROFESSIONAL' (!) Windows XP version features some
stuff like 'click your left mouse button while
your cursor is over the 'change user
priveleges
' button. Click a word you don't
understand to get an animated dictionary tour'. It's
supposed to be an OS for expierenced, not to say advanced
users, not fucking housewifes!


 

offline Quatch from ROFLOMGOMGOMG on 2003-01-22 01:23 [#00523500]
Points: 189 Status: Addict



PowerMacG4-933MHz-60GB(HD)-GeForce4MX-2FireWire-2USB-526(15
Have you ever seen 36max)RAM by $1000?


 

offline dingle berry from on a small plastic chair breat (Haiti) on 2003-01-22 03:44 [#00523548]
Points: 2389 Status: Regular



DIGI DESIGNS PRO TOOLS WORKS SO WELL ON THE MAC G4!


 

offline slint on 2003-01-22 05:47 [#00523669]
Points: 777 Status: Regular



well guys i think i decided.
a pc.a hi end pc.when i'll be rich and famous i'll buy a
mac.
you gotta start somewhere.


 

offline xlr from Boston (United States) on 2003-01-22 10:35 [#00523944]
Points: 4904 Status: Regular



Although it looks as if i'ma bit too late, I'm going to of
course recommend a mac. Content creation is the strongpoint
of the mac platfrom, especially audio production. You will
find that the system just works. Much less troubleshooting
is involved with macs, particularly os x. And the thing
never crashes.

And you can use more than one mouse button if you so desire,
as I do. Just get a third-party mouse.

In regards to speed: It's impossible to compare macs and
pc's using MHz. The chip architecture of the mac's power pc
processors is of a different order than "x86", which is what
intel uses. Even though the megahertz value is lower on a
mac, it is faster because the data is processed through a
shorter path in the system bus. There's a thing on the
apple website that explains it better.

But yes, they are a tad pricey. I'll concede that point.


 


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