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I was listening to 'Fuck America - Fuck Canada' by Venetian Snares and some other guy, Anyway I was listening to a track called 'Gay' and it had the voice of Martin Luther King mixed to say 'I have a dream, deeply rooted in crooked little children'. Is this meant to be fucking funny? Can someone tell me what he was up to with this and I hope it's more innocent then Mr Funk being a racist or thinking that all homosexuals are pedophiles. If I don't get a satisfactory conclusion to this I will sell all my Venetian Snares shit off and boycott him in the future. |
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it's his dark humor... and he self said that he isn't racist ... there is a topic @ vsnares.tk ... |
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Link please. I did hope this was the case but when it comes to Homophobic or Racist I keep away. |
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pff come on its a lyric ... |
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link is www.vsnares.tk -> message board |
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'I have a dream, deeply rooted in crooked little children'. how is it Homophobic OR Racist???? |
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Oh yeah? I happen to fucking want to know what was behind this. It's not just a lyric. I have no idea about this guy and no idea if this has been discussed before. I want to settle my own mind before buying anything else he puts out. Is this wrong of me? I'll go and buy a few Gary Glitter albums instead, after all he only fucks children rather then singing about it. |
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Erm... mixing a speech up by Martin Luther King so it's derogatory to him? Guys DONT fucking flame me kay? I just don't know so I'm fucking asking you instead of just going right ahead and dissing the guy kay? Fucking help me here. |
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Some people spread rumors (or indeed actually think) that gay people are all pedophiles, the track title is called Gay and it has a sample of a voice suggesting things with children. It sparked an alarm and I thought I'd be able to enquire here without any shit... |
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How the fuck can I not wonder about the guys motives after this eh? I hoped I was wrong (I've spent around £100 on this guy over the past two fucking months after all) but I wanted to know. |
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so why don't you ask him ? |
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I have to log in -.- *sigh* |
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i hate mondays |
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Yeah right. I really thought you guys would help me more then this. I was just asking for fucks sake. |
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I hate how the moment I say a 'bad' thing about someone you get attacked and hated rather then having an explanation given to you so your opinion is made to point one way rather then not knowing. I want a compelling argument not a fucking attack. You can NOT judge me for asking this. |
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I agree and I wanna know too as I've recently started listening to Mr Funk.. |
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I sort of see your point Spikee. It reminds me of when the first Big Brother UK was on and George Michael got arrested for being "lewd" in a public toilet... and Nick Bateman inferred that he wouldn't want his children around him and the others went mad saying just because someone is homosexual doesn't mean they fuck small kids. As for Snares being racist, well he's denied all allegations of that on the snares board so I guess his track is just meant to be disturbing, maybe a step up from the CTD Lord Faultleroy mix... but I can see why someone could take offence at it. Shock tactics? Or just plain twatness? |
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i wasn`t attacking or judging. maybe you are ? |
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From VSnares.tk Snares; Who said I was a racist? I am against any form of fascism period. I don't even believe in race. Snares; Umm yeah I do live in Canada. Here everydody is Native, y'know like Native Americans? In Canada the white people didn't kill all the natives like they did in america. I am probably the only white person on my block! There's loads of black folks here too, I went out with a black girl for a year. I've been all over the world, don't tell me it'd be different somewhere else. Do you know why racism is so prevelant in america? Because y'all have made it that way and continue to do nothing at all to change it. Racism is fear and america is built on fear, therfore too scared to change anything in fear of your whole system crumbling, and it would. |
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It didn't shock me, I just thought how lame but I wanted to make sure my money was not going to a homophobe or a racist. |
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Maybe I was. I have mood problems Sepix. That aside I got negative vibes. I don't fucking care anymore. I'm too down now. |
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nasiii |
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aaron funk has just a dark humor, maybe he's like marilyn manson who says what he thinks .. ? |
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hey Spikee..dont feel too bad..I for one also think that Funk's attempts at being "shocking" are kinda lame and detract from his real talents which lie in the poduction and sound creation...I dont know about this particular track but a track called "Fluff Master"(off Songs about my Cats) could hardly be a work of a Homophobe... |
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Maybe. But how do I know until I ask? Remember, I have a shitload of VSnares stuff. I was just asking so I knew for sure. |
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You see this guys? This is a good response. Flea suggests compelling arguments for me to ponder which will affect my overall opinion of this situation. I'm not coming up to you and saying the guy IS I just want opinions not venom. I don't know so I ask. I'm not the bad guy here. |
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aww spiky :( don't mind the mob *hug*. i have no opinion on your q since i'm not into vsnares anyway but i think you have a totally valid point here. |
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The overwhelming guilt I'm having for loosing my temper here is killing me at the moment. I don't know how to explain myself here. I heard that sample, I wanted to have opinions so I could convince myself that the £100 I spent on VSnares was not going to a homophobe or racist. I love the music and that's why I spent lots of my money getting his music. I'm not dissing his talent and I don't wish to destroy one of your gods I just wanted a discussion that would hopefully end in my doubt. I'm so annoyed at the response I got and this will only turn into depression as the day goes on. If someone has a bad opinion of someone you admire then wouldn't it make sense to politely correct that person and not get his back up. I didn't know, thats why I posted. |
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*wings droop* Thanks Neetta. -.- |
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I also agree that V Snares attempts to be 'shocking' sound like a lame and over-done copy of Aphex's 'Milkman' and so on. Before Aphex started using sweary words and toilet-humor in his music it was unheard of. I do get the feeling that Snares has made it his mission in life to out-aphex Aphex. |
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Spikee Dragon don't apologize for having an opinion of your own. It's refreshing. Don't be an ass-kissing sheep like so many others. I for one agree with you. |
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I'm with Spikee on this one. I've only just got into V Snares and I'd hate to think that my money was going to someone who is prejudiced in that way. I respect ML King for what he brought to this world. Cutting up his voice to make him sound like a Paedo is wrong. I don't care if it was done to someone who has done nothing for the world but him? He doesn't deserve it. He was a great person. Thanks for bringing it up Spikee. |
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yeah relax..Spikee...I have music by the likes of NON (Boyd Rice is an a vowed fascist)..I think he is a bit of thick headed git..but his ability to shock..man it hits you in the gut..it is some of the most extreme and unnerving music out there...I would never recommend you his Ideologies in fact I will warn you in advance that he is a dick and a prat..but..he is a frightening individual with frightening music..made scarier by his genuine (as opposed to pretend as is the case of VSnares) convictions |
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At the end of the day I guess we will never know anyway. -.- |
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or perhaps we will |
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Drama queen. |
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Piano Gabber *claps* and peanuts. Void... next. }:> |
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you've already revealed yourself on watmm, 'scott'. :-) |
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the batman speaks in mystic tongues... |
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*pricks his ears* ? |
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venetian snares is.. is.. GAY! omg thats disgusting!!!!!!!!!! yuckkkkkkkkkk! no seriously, its humour. i find it to be very good too. |
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I really don't care anymore. Life is good. |
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it is, isnt it? aaaaaaah.... *sippin coke* |
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Water is better for you dude. }:> |
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yay glad to see you cheered up |
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*nods* Thanks to Scott. Plus I go home soon. My moods go up and down like a yoyo dude thats why I try to limit myself in what I say here. It was only a matter of time. |
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yea I can relate i'm the orginal mister foot n mouth...all you did was voice a very valid opinion...good on you for having the guts to do it |
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hes not an homophob, hes a psycho... |
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so afx isn't a psycho ? did you know that he's superman and can fuck each person who he likes ? |
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